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JohnMu  
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(6 users)  More options Aug 19 2007, 8:09 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:09:54 -0000
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 8:09 pm
Subject: Blue Badge
Hi everyone

I don't know quite how to put it, so I'll just say it :-)

In two weeks, come September I'll be working for Google as a Webmaster
Trends Analyst, based in Zürich, Switzerland.

It's been a great couple of years here in the Google groups. It's been
great to work with so many different sites, with so many different
people and backgrounds. I've learned a lot from you all, especially
those of you with "uncomfortable" opinions. I know that things are not
always so easy for webmasters, especially those with smaller sites.
I've seen how small changes can lead to disasters, I've seen how other
changes have led to better sites than ever before.

I hope that together with Google we can take things to the next level!

John

PS some more is on my blog at http://johnmu.com/new-office/


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dockarl  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 19 2007, 9:53 pm
From: dockarl
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:53:19 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congrats John!

doc

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JLH  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 19 2007, 11:39 pm
From: JLH
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:39:36 -0000
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
YAY JOHN!

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cass-hacks  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 12:39 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:39:04 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:39 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
A sucker born every minute!

Some people actually do get what they deserve!  ;-)

:-()

I guess we won't be seeing as much of you around here anymore.  :-(

You're going to finally have to start working for a living.  :-()

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JLH  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 12:51 am
From: JLH
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:51:18 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:51 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Please Sphinn him round and round like a record baby!

http://sphinn.com/story/3299

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JohnMu  
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 4:46 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:46:19 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Thanks, guys!!

That "working for a living" thing would sound kind of worrying, if it
actually felt like work and not like a hobby :-).

By the way, JLH, the weather here is kind of rainy and I had fish for
dinner yesterday. I'll get back to you about that -125 penalty.

HEHEHEHE. :-))

So, what message can I bring along to Google, straight from you
webmasters?

John


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JLH  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 4:54 am
From: JLH
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:54:04 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
We had 17" of rain last night, that was fun, tons of roads and bridges
wiped out.

http://lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/08/20/news/00lead.txt

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cass-hacks  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 5:08 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:08:02 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:08 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge

> So, what message can I bring along to Google, straight from you
> webmasters?

Figure out ways to communicate de-indexing or other penalty reasons to
webmasters so effected.

If the exact reason can't be listed specifically, figure out some way
to point the webmaster in the right direction other than saying
nothing more than, "You bwoke da rules now you can't play."  :-()

On the other hand, find as many penalty inducing signals as possible
that can be communicated in their entirety.

Spammers and Blackhats already know what they are doing wrong, they do
it on purpose, so telling someone they have hidden text/links or links
to a "bad neighborhood" isn't going to give a spammer any more
information than they already have other than how long it takes Google
to catch them, which they already figured out anyway.

Barring that, make sure that it can be said that lack of evidence,
i.e. no message in the message center is evidence of lacking a penalty
as that will at least alleviate probably 90% of the problems we see
here regarding possible penalty threads.

Or, are we already seeing a lack of evidence equaling an evidence of
lacking?  ;-)

Also, give us a tool so that we can "see" a page the way Google sees
it, i.e. parses it.  Pretty please???

Between the two, you could easily eliminate 50% or more of all the
time wasted guessing on those two subjects alone.

Other than those two things, place pass along my condolences.

I have a feeling that they are going to find they hired a "speed
freak" who needs no chemicals, other than coffee, to get "wired". :-()

:-)


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Sebastian  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 5:40 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:40:03 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:40 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congrats John & Google! I know you learn awesome fast so I'd expect
Google can shorten the legal briefing etcetera and we'll see you here
soon with a blue badge posting all the secret sauce :)
All the best for both of you!
Sebastian

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cristina  
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(2 users)  More options Aug 20 2007, 8:42 am
From: cristina
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:42:07 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:42 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Hi John,

Zillions and googlions of congratulations to you!

Just to add to Craig's wise suggestions,
some other important points discussed in this group are
coypright issues, fast removal on request of
URLs and cached copies from the index,
detailed guidelines for  acceptable duplicate content,
like for accessibility, or
parallel versions for main web and mobile web,
or for multilingual sites.

Cristina.


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(1 user)  More options Aug 20 2007, 3:58 pm
From: webado
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:58:14 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
John, congratulations and best wishes to you.

I just hope somebody'll still carry on with the oyoy tools .... I'd be
lost without them.

Don't be a stranger, will ya?

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