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JohnMu  
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 More options Aug 19 2007, 8:09 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:09:54 -0000
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 8:09 pm
Subject: Blue Badge
Hi everyone

I don't know quite how to put it, so I'll just say it :-)

In two weeks, come September I'll be working for Google as a Webmaster
Trends Analyst, based in Zürich, Switzerland.

It's been a great couple of years here in the Google groups. It's been
great to work with so many different sites, with so many different
people and backgrounds. I've learned a lot from you all, especially
those of you with "uncomfortable" opinions. I know that things are not
always so easy for webmasters, especially those with smaller sites.
I've seen how small changes can lead to disasters, I've seen how other
changes have led to better sites than ever before.

I hope that together with Google we can take things to the next level!

John

PS some more is on my blog at http://johnmu.com/new-office/


 
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dockarl  
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 More options Aug 19 2007, 9:53 pm
From: dockarl
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:53:19 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congrats John!

doc

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 More options Aug 19 2007, 11:39 pm
From: JLH
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:39:36 -0000
Local: Sun, Aug 19 2007 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
YAY JOHN!

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 12:39 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:39:04 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:39 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
A sucker born every minute!

Some people actually do get what they deserve!  ;-)

:-()

I guess we won't be seeing as much of you around here anymore.  :-(

You're going to finally have to start working for a living.  :-()

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JLH  
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 12:51 am
From: JLH
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:51:18 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 12:51 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Please Sphinn him round and round like a record baby!

http://sphinn.com/story/3299

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JohnMu  
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 4:46 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:46:19 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Thanks, guys!!

That "working for a living" thing would sound kind of worrying, if it
actually felt like work and not like a hobby :-).

By the way, JLH, the weather here is kind of rainy and I had fish for
dinner yesterday. I'll get back to you about that -125 penalty.

HEHEHEHE. :-))

So, what message can I bring along to Google, straight from you
webmasters?

John


 
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JLH  
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 4:54 am
From: JLH
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:54:04 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
We had 17" of rain last night, that was fun, tons of roads and bridges
wiped out.

http://lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/08/20/news/00lead.txt

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 5:08 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:08:02 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:08 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge

> So, what message can I bring along to Google, straight from you
> webmasters?

Figure out ways to communicate de-indexing or other penalty reasons to
webmasters so effected.

If the exact reason can't be listed specifically, figure out some way
to point the webmaster in the right direction other than saying
nothing more than, "You bwoke da rules now you can't play."  :-()

On the other hand, find as many penalty inducing signals as possible
that can be communicated in their entirety.

Spammers and Blackhats already know what they are doing wrong, they do
it on purpose, so telling someone they have hidden text/links or links
to a "bad neighborhood" isn't going to give a spammer any more
information than they already have other than how long it takes Google
to catch them, which they already figured out anyway.

Barring that, make sure that it can be said that lack of evidence,
i.e. no message in the message center is evidence of lacking a penalty
as that will at least alleviate probably 90% of the problems we see
here regarding possible penalty threads.

Or, are we already seeing a lack of evidence equaling an evidence of
lacking?  ;-)

Also, give us a tool so that we can "see" a page the way Google sees
it, i.e. parses it.  Pretty please???

Between the two, you could easily eliminate 50% or more of all the
time wasted guessing on those two subjects alone.

Other than those two things, place pass along my condolences.

I have a feeling that they are going to find they hired a "speed
freak" who needs no chemicals, other than coffee, to get "wired". :-()

:-)


 
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Sebastian  
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 5:40 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:40:03 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:40 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congrats John & Google! I know you learn awesome fast so I'd expect
Google can shorten the legal briefing etcetera and we'll see you here
soon with a blue badge posting all the secret sauce :)
All the best for both of you!
Sebastian

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 8:42 am
From: cristina
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:42:07 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:42 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Hi John,

Zillions and googlions of congratulations to you!

Just to add to Craig's wise suggestions,
some other important points discussed in this group are
coypright issues, fast removal on request of
URLs and cached copies from the index,
detailed guidelines for  acceptable duplicate content,
like for accessibility, or
parallel versions for main web and mobile web,
or for multilingual sites.

Cristina.


 
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 3:58 pm
From: webado
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:58:14 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
John, congratulations and best wishes to you.

I just hope somebody'll still carry on with the oyoy tools .... I'd be
lost without them.

Don't be a stranger, will ya?

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 4:55 pm
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:55:04 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Very well done - excellent recruit by Google.

Best of fortune with the new job.

Rgds
Richard

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 5:35 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
I'd love to do more with the oyoy tools, but it is a bit of a conflict
with the work I'd be doing at Google, so I think it's best if I leave
it to my old company and let them work things out :-). Who knows,
perhaps the tools that could have been there, might suddenly show up
with a different logo on them (obviously I can't promise anything
though).

What blog topics should I cover in the next two weeks? Anything in
particular?

John


 
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 More options Aug 20 2007, 7:05 pm
From: IceGiant
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:05:25 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Dude... What can I say...?

Without having actually read any of the other replies to this thread,
I have to say that they couldn't have picked a better guy to join
their team than you (not excluding the likes of JLH, Cass-Hacks, Mr
Payne, the Cardinal & Company of course).

For the last year, it's been a pleasure having you around the place
(pretty much 24/7) giving advice, opinions and occasionally just
venturing into territory where angels fear to tread.

Cheers for all the input... hope to keep seeing you about the place...

Take care

Sasch

P.S. Now that you're gonna be working for Gran'Daddy Google, may I
just say 'Careful there Ted!'?
Google "Father Ted", in case you've never watched the series. ;-)

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 7:14 pm
From: IceGiant
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:14:59 -0000
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Having now read the replies to this thing, I'd say that "Yes, some
people do get what they deserve." :-Ş

I guess with his technological insight & his biting wit, Craig'll be
next to the chopping block :-Ş

Keep up the good work man :-)

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 More options Aug 20 2007, 8:05 pm
From: Yogi Gupta
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:05:30 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 20 2007 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congratulations!
There is no other expression that suits your announcement.
Thanks for all the tools you generated.
Wish you the best of luck
Yogi

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 More options Aug 21 2007, 12:22 am
From: webjockey
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:22:22 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 21 2007 12:22 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congratulations John on taking it to the next level!

Please do come back and visit from time to time.

Best wishes,
Blair

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 More options Aug 22 2007, 8:29 pm
From: silverstall
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:29:05 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Congratulations and well deserved. Don't forget us mere mortals or
Dougals (to keep the FT theme) languishing in the slums of
supplemental-ville.
Will we see John MU videos in a similar fashion to the matt Cutts
videos (but without the Beirut Bombshelter backdrop?)

 
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 12:24 am
From: JLH
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:24:02 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 12:24 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Sometimes I crack me up.

http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/08/muellerites/

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 2:11 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:11:44 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:11 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
> Sometimes I crack me up.

help.  :-)

Nice photoshop, JLH.

John


 
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 5:08 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:08:25 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 5:08 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
PMSL... sheer class... Especially the name for the fanclub :-D

Muellerites, sounds like a bunch of people who are fanatical about
dairy products. ;-)

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 More options Aug 24 2007, 3:17 am
From: JLH
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:17:50 -0000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:17 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
I've cracked the top 10 for muellerites.  OH The money I am going to
make!  Selling T-shirts, mugs, keychains, action figures, black trash
bags, an e-book about JohnMu....

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3...

Just say it, muellerites, it rolls off the tounge.

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 More options Aug 24 2007, 3:20 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:20:57 -0000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:20 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Action figures? Hmm.

 
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 3:23 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:23:10 -0000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:23 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
There's a company 2 stories below us that sells "garden
dwarfs" (probably not popular in the states, but many older houses
here have them in their garden, now sure why...): http://www.zwergshop.ch/

(now I've done it, hahaha)

John


 
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 5:24 am
From: JLH
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:24:42 -0000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 5:24 am
Subject: Re: Blue Badge
Yes you have.....

http://www.jlh-design.com/products-page/?product_id=1

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