Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more »
Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in
Google Groups Home
Discussions > Google webmaster tools > Help me escape the minus 30 penalty
There are currently too many topics in this group that display first. To make this topic appear first, remove this option from another topic.
There was an error processing your request. Please try again.
flag
  5 messages - Collapse all  -  Translate all to Translated (View all originals)
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
barracuda150965  
View profile  
(2 users)  More options Feb 7 2007, 12:57 pm
From: barracuda150965
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:57:20 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 7 2007 12:57 pm
Subject: Help me escape the minus 30 penalty
Hi,

My site is http://www.catalunya.co.uk which has ranked very well for
several years but in early/mid September dropped in Google's SERPS.

After investigating I found that the highest I could rank for any term
on the site, including "www.catalunya.co.uk" was 31 and I then found a
thread about it at webmasterworld (http://www.webmasterworld.com/
google/3119215.htm) and found that the penalty seems to be fairly
common.

I didn't worry about it too much as I had planned on revising the site
extensively. The content is about Barcelona and it earns money through
a combination of direct sales, affiliate links and adsense. A big part
of this rewrite included adding more hotel details (with affiliate
links) and well as a restructure of the whole site.

The content on these pages at the time included a map of location -
each location has been checked and double checked as the GPS
coordinates supplied by hotel bookings sites proved to be terrible and
so the maps displayed an accurate position for each hotel in
Barcelona. Some of the hotels also have a completely original review,
the idea is to write a review for every hotel. And finally I added the
option for users to add feedback about hotels, thereby providing
visitors to the site with good, unique content.

I submitted a reinclusion request as suggested by Matt Cutts and
others at the end of October. Within 5 days my site had been visited
by someone from Google, but no change in the SERPS.

In January I again decided to tackle the issue head on. Some people
had suggested that hotel affiliates were the cause of the problem, so
I stripped many hotel links from the site and added some original
content to every hotel listed regarding how they were good for
sightseeing and/or business. The site now gives info on distances to
specific locations in Barcelona and advises when you should be looking
elsewhere.

I resubmitted on January 22 and on January 26 someone from Google
visited the site. To date I've seen no improvement in the SERPS and so
made more changes this week.

An example of a hotel with full review can be found at
http://www.catalunya.co.uk/barcelona/accommodation/hotel-finder/1066-...
and one without at http://www.catalunya.co.uk/barcelona/accommodation/
hotel-finder/1014-Apsis-Millenni-Hotel.php.

Now, the site is more than just a hotel site. It provides pages of
original content to help anyone visiting Barcelona. It provides
information on FC Barcelona and has online booking of tickets.

What do I need to do to get Google to remove the penalty when as far
as I can see I am complying with what they ask for in the Google
webmaster guidelines. I have spend 100s of hours on this and earning
close to zero from it, a situation I can't maintain indefinitely.

To me the site appears to have good information, original content and
it looks good. How does it appear to you?

Thank you for you time, I look forward to your comments.

regards,

David Leigh
http://www.catalunya.co.uk


    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Discussion subject changed to "Honest site review requested" by barracuda150965
barracuda150965  
View profile  
 More options Feb 13 2007, 12:15 pm
From: barracuda150965
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:15:38 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 13 2007 12:15 pm
Subject: Honest site review requested
Does nobody have any suggestions?

    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Maurer  
View profile  
 More options Feb 13 2007, 1:07 pm
From: Maurer
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:07:02 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 13 2007 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: Honest site review requested
Hi David,

I thought you might have missed some errors or the page times were
long, something... I could not find any errors.  On top of that, your
load times were very nice!

Wish I had more for you...

On Feb 13, 12:15 pm, barracuda150965 wrote:


    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
softplus  
View profile  
(1 user)  More options Feb 13 2007, 1:13 pm
From: softplus
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:13:38 -0000
Local: Tues, Feb 13 2007 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Honest site review requested
It is possible that you have a 30 day penalty that was being renewed.
Perhaps it was marked as cleaned up on Jan 26, giving you 30 days from
there. (just a wild guess)

I'll try to take a look at your site later tonight.

John


    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
barracuda150965  
View profile  
 More options Feb 14 2007, 10:21 am
From: barracuda150965
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:21:03 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 14 2007 10:21 am
Subject: Re: Honest site review requested
Hi John,

Thanks for that, I've had too many false hopes in the last 5 months to
believe it until I see it, but fingers crossed.

David

On Feb 13, 7:13 pm, softplus wrote:


    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
End of messages
« Back to Discussions « Newer topic     Older topic »

Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2009 Google