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Philip Skinner  
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From: Philip Skinner
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:51:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 3:51 am
Subject: Sitemaps issue across many websites
Hello,

I have many websites, both personal and for my company, and nearly all
of them are showing very strange things in the webmaster tools when it
comes to downloading the sitemap files for the websites.

It says that it has successfully downloaded the sitemap, but found no
url's in it, plus the number of indexed urls is 0.

What is going on?

Thanks,

Philip.


 
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 More options Oct 22 2008, 8:31 am
From: DrewZ
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 8:31 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps issue across many websites
Our site www.proz.com has experienced a similar problem with WMT site
map detail.  The xml files were downloaded by googlebot two hours ago
(index and all site maps and has done so daily forever), and WMT does
show our main index site map but shows 0 indexed urls, although we
have plenty of pages in the index and are still receiving the normal
amount of search traffic so I am inclined to think that this is an
issue with WMT - perhaps related to the recent improvements that
display linked pages for errors.  If traffic and search patterns drop
then I would start to panic.

DrewZ

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 10:53 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 10:53 am
Subject: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi guys
We're currently looking into the issue where it shows "0" for the
number of index Sitemap URLs.

We'll let you know as soon as we know more. Thanks for bringing this
issue up (to everyone who did :-)) and thanks for your patience!

John


 
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Pittbug  
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 1:44 pm
From: Pittbug
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
I'm seeing individual sitemap files listed within an index start to
come back and as a bonus (so far) the warning about all URLs having
the same priority has gone.

Maybe this was an update to correct that issue and as part of
correcting it, meant that they had to reprocess all the sitemap files?

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 2:19 pm
From: RobNewman
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
It used to take a few hours to upload a new sitemap and maybe a few
days
for new indexing.

Now it took almost a week just  for my latest sitemap to go from
pending status to read.

However it has been almost three weeks and nothing has been indexed!

Sitemap stats
Total URLs: 69
Indexed URLs: 0

Something is going on with Google sitemaps and indexing - and it is
not good!


 
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 3:24 pm
From: mspaperlicious
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Thanks for keeping us posted. I just joined this group to try to
figure out what's up. I used to have several urls indexed under my
sitemapindex and everything has just disappeared under the index
(except the index). Poof. So I resubmitted and it's been 22 hours and
still says "pending" with the urls still missing.

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 3:47 pm
From: armenb
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Just chiming in to help underscore that this is a pretty pervasive
problem. I have the exact same issue-- my sitemap index seems to be
read, but nothing 'underneath' it is showing up, as if the sitemap
index is empty (it's not, nor are the sitemaps it points to). This is
a brand new issue, and we have not changed anything on our side.

Thanks for looking into it!

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 4:22 pm
From: miabellashop
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:22:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Thanks for letting us know I did not even realize I was still sitting
at pending and 0 till today :( It's been like this since Oct. 21st
when I last updated it?
http://miabellashop.com/sitemap.xml

Hopefully it's resolved soon. Thanks~

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 4:57 pm
From: RobNewman
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:57:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi Again,

Just to clarify, it is not just a problem of Google webmaster tools
failing to update the info.

Sitemap stats
Total URLs: 69
Indexed URLs: 0

I changed the titles on 68 pages and only 3 have been indexed and show
up in search results as updated.

That's only three pages in three weeks!

It seems like a real problem with Google downloading the sitemaps and
then actually using the information for indexing.


 
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 5:19 pm
From: nelsix
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
well,

for me its all ok with sitemaps and the warnings from the same
priority disapeared. let's see what happens from now one.

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 6:04 pm
From: angelchen
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
still pending...

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Tim Abracadabra  
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 8:09 pm
From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:09:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Just to comment,

Sitemaps are not required for indexing.

In fact, submitting a sitemap does not gaurentee
all the URL's contained therein will be indexed.
Here is a link to A Google post regarding that
fact and other Sitemap FAQ's-
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/01/sitemaps-faqs.html

If you have URLs that are not in a Sitemap
they can still be indexed.

Sitemaps are only a supplimental resource to
normal crawling of a site.

If for some reason your number of indexed
pages is not what it was or what you expect
it is not likely relevant to any issue with a Sitemap
or what Google Webmaster Tools shows as indexed URLs.

Here is a help article from Google regarding sites that
are not appearing in search results, or appearing lower-
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=34444&t...

Hope that helps clarify,
Abracadabra

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Discussion subject changed to "Sitemaps issue across many websites" by johnxuster
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 9:35 pm
From: johnxuster
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps issue across many websites
the same problem with my site:
http://www.power-battery.com.au

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 10:21 pm
From: RobNewman
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi Tim,

I have read all the above FAQ's, with the usual Google, "we don't
guarantee anything about anything" disclaimers.

And as they say in the stock market, past performance is no guarantee
of future results....

However, something seems to be going on with Google's slow
performance.

Sitemaps used to take hours, not days to process and indexing of sites
already indexed took days to weeks to get re-indexed, not weeks to
months.

Perhaps Google is getting bogged down with the sheer number and volume
of websites which seem to be growing exponentially?

Who knows, as Google would never admit to such a problem!

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 11:15 pm
From: webado
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:15:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites

On Oct 23, 4:57 pm, RobNewman wrote:

> It seems like a real problem with Google downloading the sitemaps and
> then actually using the information for indexing.

Google does not use the sitemaps for indexing. It still has to crawl
the site in order to index it. It will do it on its own schedule that
is influenced by the number and quality of  backlinks and according to
how often in the past it has found that you have changed your pages
(and to what extent). The sitemap offers some information which is
useful, and may be used but only if it is also found to be truthful.

 
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 More options Oct 23 2008, 11:23 pm
From: webado
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
You cannot make such general statements.

Every site is indexed or not according to its own merits.

The vast majority of sites will not be returned in searches in the top
1000 and even much les in the 100 or top 10, not when you see "results
1-10 of about 144000000" . But they usually get indexed (unless they
are very broken or ultra spammy) and you can see that with a site:
query.

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 More options Oct 23 2008, 11:25 pm
From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:25:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi RobNewman,

> However, something seems to be going on with Google's slow
> performance.

> Sitemaps used to take hours, not days to process and indexing of sites
> already indexed took days to weeks to get re-indexed, not weeks to
> months.

I completely agree something seems not right,
Absolutely!

The point I wanted to clarify is that Sitemaps
are not required, are only a supplement, and
Sitemap issues typically have no relation
to indexing of regular web sites.

If a news Sitemap or such helps Google find
your latest articles or other similar situations,
then OK, It might delay indexing.

I just wanted to be clear on the point that
seems to be a popular misconception that
Sitemaps are required for indexing and are the
main source of what Google will index.

If the page can be found via a normal crawl
through the on site navigation then a Sitemap
submission might be unnecessary.

In clarifying this I also hoped that those who
may have indexing issues address this as
a separate issue than Sitemaps.

I wouldn't want someone to assume an indexing
issue is due to Sitemaps and not seek help to find
the cause, when the real cause of the issue is
something else entirely.

Also, If the cause is in fact on Google's end,
history shows in Google's favor that they address
such issues, (Many times due to your valuable feedback)
and let us know when the issue is resolved.

btw- While it was your post I replied to it was
not targeted to you specifically. Your post just
seemed the most relevant to the point I wanted
to make ;-)

All the best,
Abracadabra
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From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:55:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Just to add one more thing,

To find the pages on your site that are indexed,
I prefer to use the site: search operator from a
Google search box.

example syntax
site:www.mydomain.com/

That seems to give the most accurate real time
results. You can also click on the cache link
to find out when that page was last cached.

Hope that helps,
Abracadabra

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From: syoshii
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 24 2008 1:34 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
I'm having some issues too for my blog http://syoshii.blog52.fc2.com/
.

1. Sitemap download issue
    Today sitemap is still in pending status after 12 hours from the
submission

2. Indexing issue
    Entries in my blog are not indexed after 1 week from submission;
usually an entry is indexed after a couple of days. crawling
performance problem?

What I can say so far would be that something is wrong with Google.

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From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 24 2008 2:21 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi syoshii,

Your site seems to have currently other issues and
has had Sitemap pending issues in the past.

Please open up a new thread for your specific
situation.

Thanks,
Abracadabra

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From: Uhaaa.com
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 24 2008 7:06 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
I have different issue. I have 2 websites - http://uhaaa.com and
another - http://en.uhaaa.com. The first site are ok - sitemaps are
downloaded, but for the second - forever pending. It's strange why one
of them is indexed, and another not.

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From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 24 2008 7:35 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
Hi Uhaaa.com and welcome!

> [..]. It's strange why one
> of them is indexed, and another not.

Actually I see both indexed but with varying results.

Uhaaa.com has 97 pages indexed.
www.uhaaa.com/ has 12 pages indexed.

en.uhaaa.com has 12 pages indexed

I use the site: operator in search or on Google Webmaster Tools,
the Dashboard> your site> Statistics > Index Stats > site:

For uhaaa I suggest you choose a preferred domain version
and 301 the non-preferred to the preferred domain version.

Also set the preferred domain in Google Webmaster
Tools.

If you need more detail on this please open your own thread
in the Crawling, Indexing, and ranking group.

And as said before, Google is looking into the GWMT
Sitemap processing\reporting issue.

Thanks,
Abracadabra

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From: Pittbug
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
The sitemap index files are now showing a status of Pending, I guess
it'll be a couple more days until they have them reprocessed.

 
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From: webado
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
I have one such "phenomenon" - it's for a single gzipped sitemap
showing as pending. I did not resubmit it lately, so its status of
pending has happened in the last couple of days only.

I click the Details link  and all shows OK for that sitemap, including
date last downloaded (Oct 21), number of urls in it (about11000) and
number of urls currently indexed from it (about 6000). So all this is
normal and agrees with what was being shown previously on the sitemap
page in WMT.

It looks like it's only this page that's not displaying proper summary
information, but deep down all is OK.

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From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 24 2008 10:05 am
Subject: Re: Sitemaps Indexed URL count issue across many websites
New comment from John Mu on Sitemaps (still) pending.

Seems there is a backlog and they are doing their
best to process them as soon as they can.

http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Sitemap/browse_t...

Maybe you just need to wait a little bit longer for
them to catch up.

Interesting that some small sites I monitor do not seem to
be affected with Sitemaps uploaded and processsed on
Oct 20 and 21st. Then again, the sites typically have less than
100 URL's each.

All the best,
Abracadabra

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