Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://
www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
would like to request that http://www.indybay.org/ be restored to the
index as soon as possible.
I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/be restored to the
> index as soon as possible.
> I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/be restored to the
> index as soon as possible.
> I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestored to the
> > index as soon as possible.
> > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestored to the
> > index as soon as possible.
> > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
to do that to get it removed.
But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
single robots.txt file for both.
I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredto the
> > > index as soon as possible.
> > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> to do that to get it removed.
> But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> single robots.txt file for both.
> I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
Not so sure that's a great idea TBH. I don't think Google handles
HTTPS and HTTP versions as completely different sites, even though it
sometimes appears that way from search results.
This is an interesting test case however. It would be grat to get some
clarification from Googlers on this issue.
I think the best solution is to not let your site resolve on HTTPS
unless SSL is required for specific pages.
> That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > to do that to get it removed.
> > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > single robots.txt file for both.
> > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > to do that to get it removed.
> > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > single robots.txt file for both.
> > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> So did you also submit the site twice, once with https and the other
> witthout?
> The message could be referring to the https version - no pages are
> indexed for that.
> On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
Hi Richard,
I obviously do not know exactly why the subject line
was changed,
but I think because it was an answer to
a posting in the thread above the point
where you changed the subject,
not an actual editing of the subject line.
> Some particular reason why you changed the Subject?
> I'd sort of appreciate some official chiming in if it was possible.
> Rgds
> RIchard
> On Jul 2, 12:03 pm, webado wrote:
> > OK, strange setup but whatever.
> > So did you also submit the site twice, once with https and the other
> > witthout?
> > The message could be referring to the https version - no pages are
> > indexed for that.
> > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> Hi Richard,
> I obviously do not know exactly why the subject line
> was changed,
> but I think because it was an answer to
> a posting in the thread above the point
> where you changed the subject,
> not an actual editing of the subject line.
> Cristina.
> On Jul 2, 1:09 pm, Red Cardinal wrote:
> > Some particular reason why you changed the Subject?
> > I'd sort of appreciate some official chiming in if it was possible.
> > Rgds
> > RIchard
> > On Jul 2, 12:03 pm, webado wrote:
> > > OK, strange setup but whatever.
> > > So did you also submit the site twice, once with https and the other
> > > witthout?
> > > The message could be referring to the https version - no pages are
> > > indexed for that.
> > > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> Hi Mark,
> Did you submit a sitemap for your site
> (the http version)?
> If so, are there error messages for the sitemap?
> Cristina.
> On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> Some particular reason why you changed the Subject?
> I'd sort of appreciate some official chiming in if it was possible.
> Rgds
> RIchard
> On Jul 2, 12:03 pm, webado wrote:
> > OK, strange setup but whatever.
> > So did you also submit the site twice, once with https and the other
> > witthout?
> > The message could be referring to the https version - no pages are
> > indexed for that.
> > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> > > - Show quoted text -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -
Hi Mark,
What I meant about the sitemap was that
a sitemap, as you know, is a way to inform
Googlebot of which URLs you want indexed for
your site, and I think submitting a good sitemap
would help you in getting your site re-indexeded.
> Hi,
> I've never submitted a site map in the past 8 years the site has been
> online, and didn't want to try anything "fancy" until I resolved
> this :)
> > Hi Mark,
> > Did you submit a sitemap for your site
> > (the http version)?
> > If so, are there error messages for the sitemap?
> > Cristina.
> > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Hi Cristina,
As far as I can tell, the site did not need to be re-indexed; having
the HTTPS site removed caused the site to not appear in search
results, but my guess is the pages were not actually removed from
Google's index altogether. We haven't seen a flood of Googlebot
visits.
As far as Webmaster Tools, it now shows that my request to remove
https://www.indybay.org:443/ was "Canceled", so that probably explains
why the site is listed again. The overview index status for
http://www.indybay.org/ still reads "No pages from your site are
currently included in Google's index" but that may just be stale info
that will get refreshed sometime soon.
> Hi Mark,
> What I meant about the sitemap was that
> a sitemap, as you know, is a way to inform
> Googlebot of which URLs you want indexed for
> your site, and I think submitting a good sitemap
> would help you in getting your site re-indexeded.
> Cristina.
> On Jul 2, 8:56 pm, mark B. wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've never submitted a site map in the past 8 years the site has been
> > online, and didn't want to try anything "fancy" until I resolved
> > this :)
> > > Hi Mark,
> > > Did you submit a sitemap for your site
> > > (the http version)?
> > > If so, are there error messages for the sitemap?
> > > Cristina.
> > > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 10:11 pm, mark B. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
If the site was submitted as https the infromation on that will say
none are indexed.
Submit the site again as http as a seprate entry and you will see what
information you have for that.
> Hi Cristina,
> As far as I can tell, the site did not need to be re-indexed; having
> the HTTPS site removed caused the site to not appear in search
> results, but my guess is the pages were not actually removed from
> Google's index altogether. We haven't seen a flood of Googlebot
> visits.
> As far as Webmaster Tools, it now shows that my request to removehttps://www.indybay.org:443/was "Canceled", so that probably explains
> why the site is listed again. The overview index status forhttp://www.indybay.org/still reads "No pages from your site are
> currently included in Google's index" but that may just be stale info
> that will get refreshed sometime soon.
> --mark
> On Jul 2, 2:48 pm, cristina wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> > What I meant about the sitemap was that
> > a sitemap, as you know, is a way to inform
> > Googlebot of which URLs you want indexed for
> > your site, and I think submitting a good sitemap
> > would help you in getting your site re-indexeded.
> > Cristina.
> > On Jul 2, 8:56 pm, mark B. wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I've never submitted a site map in the past 8 years the site has been
> > > online, and didn't want to try anything "fancy" until I resolved
> > > this :)
> > > > Hi Mark,
> > > > Did you submit a sitemap for your site
> > > > (the http version)?
> > > > If so, are there error messages for the sitemap?
> > > > Cristina.
> > > > On Jul 2, 12:10 am, mark B. wrote:
> > > > > > That's interesting, I will continue checking to see if the indexed
> > > > > > pages are disappearing or reappearing. Another symptom of the problem
> > > > > > is that Webmaster Tools Overview page reads: "Index status: No pages
> > > > > > from your site are currently included in Google's index. Indexing can
> > > > > > take time. You may find it helpful to review our information for
> > > > > > webmasters and webmaster guidelines."
> > > > > > > I see 42200 pages indexed according to the site: query. Maybe you end
> > > > > > > up in the one lone datacenter that doesn't have it.
> > > > > > > When I asked about how you removed I mean for you to explain how. Did
> > > > > > > you use robots.txt file to disallow access to the site? You'd have had
> > > > > > > to do that to get it removed.
> > > > > > > But this also results in removing the http:// copy because there is a
> > > > > > > single robots.txt file for both.
> > > > > > > I see the robots.txt file is Ok now, not disallowing the entire site.
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 10:11 pm, mark B. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi, I recently removed the HTTPS version of a site (https://www.indybay.org:443/) from the index using Webmaster Tools. However
> > > > > > > > > > this apparently caused the entire HTTP site (http://www.indybay.org/)
> > > > > > > > > > to disappear from Google's index as well. This is of course very bad,
> > > > > > > > > > since we do rely on Google to bring readers to the site :)
> > > > > > > > > > It seems like this may be a bug with Google Webmasters Tools. Also, I
> > > > > > > > > > would like to request thathttp://www.indybay.org/berestoredtothe > > > > > > > > > > index as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > > > I did try clicking on the "Re-include" button next to my removal
> > > > > > > > > > request. However this resulted in an error message, "Oops! We
> > > > > > > > > > couldn't do that because of an error. Please try again!"
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for any assistance anyone can provide.
> > > > > > > > > > --mark B.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
I just wanted to confirm Richard's suspicion -- yes, the URL removal
tool removes both the https:// and the http:// versions of the URL.
Additionally, it also removes both the www and the non-www versions
(if relevant). Some of the documentation and the descriptions within
Webmaster Tools look like they might be incorrect, we're working on
fixing that in one of the upcoming releases (it takes a lot of time to
get all the translations in :-)).
Many webmasters do not have their servers set up in a way that only
one version of the URL is actually available. It's important to us
that if they want their content removed, that it's really removed
(including all versions that we might know about). The URL removal
tool is not something that should be use to "optimize" your site's
indexing, to remove canonical versions -- the best way to handle that
is still on the server side, with simple 301 redirects (and of course
the "preferred domain" setting within Webmaster Tools).
I hope that makes things clearer!
John
PS I'm glad the canceling of your URL removal came through, Mark, it
looks like there was a bit of delay in the system for a while.
Thanks JohnMu!
We are not using 301 redirects for HTTPS, because some users need or
prefer to use HTTPS. But we did add a separate robots.txt as well as
meta robots tag for the HTTPS site, so hopefully only the HTTP site
will be indexed from now on.
> I just wanted to confirm Richard's suspicion -- yes, the URL removal
> tool removes both the https:// and the http:// versions of the URL.
> Additionally, it also removes both the www and the non-www versions
> (if relevant). Some of the documentation and the descriptions within
> Webmaster Tools look like they might be incorrect, we're working on
> fixing that in one of the upcoming releases (it takes a lot of time to
> get all the translations in :-)).
> Many webmasters do not have their servers set up in a way that only
> one version of the URL is actually available. It's important to us
> that if they want their content removed, that it's really removed
> (including all versions that we might know about). The URL removal
> tool is not something that should be use to "optimize" your site's
> indexing, to remove canonical versions -- the best way to handle that
> is still on the server side, with simple 301 redirects (and of course
> the "preferred domain" setting within Webmaster Tools).
> I hope that makes things clearer!
> John
> PS I'm glad the canceling of your URL removal came through, Mark, it
> looks like there was a bit of delay in the system for a while.
> Thanks JohnMu!
> We are not using 301 redirects for HTTPS, because some users need or
> prefer to use HTTPS. But we did add a separate robots.txt as well as
> meta robots tag for the HTTPS site, so hopefully only the HTTP site
> will be indexed from now on.
> --mark
> On Jul 2, 11:15 pm, JohnMu wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> > I just wanted to confirm Richard's suspicion -- yes, the URL removal
> > tool removes both the https:// and the http:// versions of the URL.
> > Additionally, it also removes both the www and the non-www versions
> > (if relevant). Some of the documentation and the descriptions within
> > Webmaster Tools look like they might be incorrect, we're working on
> > fixing that in one of the upcoming releases (it takes a lot of time to
> > get all the translations in :-)).
> > Many webmasters do not have their servers set up in a way that only
> > one version of the URL is actually available. It's important to us
> > that if they want their content removed, that it's really removed
> > (including all versions that we might know about). The URL removal
> > tool is not something that should be use to "optimize" your site's
> > indexing, to remove canonical versions -- the best way to handle that
> > is still on the server side, with simple 301 redirects (and of course
> > the "preferred domain" setting within Webmaster Tools).
> > I hope that makes things clearer!
> > John
> > PS I'm glad the canceling of your URL removal came through, Mark, it
> > looks like there was a bit of delay in the system for a while.- Hide quoted text -
