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JohnLopresti  
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 More options Jul 12 2008, 1:24 pm
From: JohnLopresti
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 1:24 pm
Subject: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence
I notice in a Google search results page the new utility McAfee
SiteAdvisor has a feature that hides the Google search results behind
the McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover window.  In this overtiling way the
SiteAdvisor window hides three of the five search results.
SiteAdvisor has a hypersensitive launch feature, so whenever the
viewer moves the mouse a new SiteAdvisor window appears in tileover
mode, updated to convey security information about the territory
underneath the window (the web address link of sites Google has found
in the search).

SiteAdvisor has a close button but it is small, and SiteAdvisor always
automatically will create a new overtiled advisory as soon as you move
the mouse to a new part of the screen.  The workstation owner has no
option to shut off this annoying overtiling feature in SiteAdvisor.

Google needs to contact McAfee about the infringement on the value of
Google's search results.  Most of my web search results have been
degraded in quickness of access to information since my company rolled
out SiteAdvisor.  Always as soon as you move the mouse a new
SiteAdvisor tileover obliterates a different part of the Google
screen.  Google's legal department needs to take McAfee to court soon
for a temporary restraining order, then work to add a feature so
workstation operators may access Google unfettered.

SiteAdvisor has a second feature which is a color coded checkmark in a
green radiobuttonlike circle which appears at the end of the link for
each Google search result.  This should be sufficient to attract
people to access McAfee SiteAdvisor information.  The overtiling
autolaunching window with full security information is an invasion of
Google territory and ruins the Google search experience.


 
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webado  
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 More options Jul 12 2008, 1:35 pm
From: webado
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:35:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 12 2008 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence
You need to get rid of that Site Advisor thing, it's not Google's
problem.

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Sasch  
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 More options Jul 14 2008, 8:04 am
From: Sasch
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:04:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 14 2008 8:04 am
Subject: Re: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence

> You need to get rid of that Site Advisor thing, it's not Google's
> problem.

Why are you using the damn thing in the first place?

 
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Buckley  
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 More options Jul 15 2008, 12:36 am
From: Buckley
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:36:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 12:36 am
Subject: Re: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence
Yahoo has posted a false “Unsolicited Emails” warning associated with
our website, www.rumford.com, when searching for “Rumford
fireplaces”.  The warning is generated by Yahoo’s partner, McAfee
SiteAdvisor. False because SiteAdvisor says they made that
determination by “entering our e-mail address on this site”.  Problem
is, we have no forms or any other way to automatically enter an email
message.

I have complained to the Washington Attorney General and the
California and Texas Better Business Bureau and have hired a lawyer -
just to try to get someone at McAfee or Yahoo who can correct the
error to talk with me.

There is plenty of discussion about the websites McAfee has falsely
red tagged on several blogs, such as
http://www.revenews.com/davidlewis/my-life-as-a-spammer-or-so-says-ya...
and http://ycorpblog.com/2008/05/05/do-you-know-where-you-mouse-has-been/
and  http://www.crn.com/security/208401061

Please somebody tell me that Google will not partner with McAfee or
SiteAdvisor and that StopBadWare isn't just as bad.

Jim Buckley, [email address]

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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Jul 15 2008, 7:14 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 15 2008 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence
Hi John & Jim and welcome to the groups!

John, thanks for bringing this issue up, I've passed it on to the
appropriate people.

Jim, no, Google is currently not partnering with McAfee / SiteAdvisor.
From my experience with our anti-malware systems (and with that,
StopBadWare), I personally think we're pretty darn good at catching
real issues :-).

John


 
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Amazon1  
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 More options Sep 9 2008, 10:50 am
From: Amazon1
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 9 2008 10:50 am
Subject: Re: McAfee SiteAdvisor tileover persistence
I know this is an old thread, but I've just done a search in Google
for both my trademark muscledesigns and domain name
muscledesigns.com.  What is interesting is that the first return is
McAfees's SiteAdvisor, and contains the following text:

muscledesigns.com | Web Safety Ratings from McAfee SiteAdvisor
 - 3 visits - 1:28am
McAfee SiteAdvisor tests muscledesigns.com for adware, spam, scams,
and e-mail practices.
www.siteadvisor.com/sites/muscledesigns.com/summary/ - Similar pages

Forget the issue that the first return should be the site who's domain
name that was typed in, but McAfee's comes up first.  But the wording
is defamatory: muscledesigns.com, Web Safety Ratings from McAfee,
McAffee SiteAdvisor tests muscledesigns.com for adware, spam, scams,
and e-mail practices.

This is very damaging to my companies reputation, as my business is
not even remotely related in any way to the above-mentioned terms.
Anyone searching for my organization will interpret that first return
as very negative and "official" warning from a respected software
security firm.  And if someone tells me that Google is not partnered
with McAfee on SiteAdvisor, then please explain the first return.

I am presently addressing the issue with McAfee, and will be filing
legal action if I am not satisfied with their remedy.  Not that it
probably means much to them, but it will be in the press as well, so I
don't think it will look good for Google either.  Disparaging  a
company's reputation and damaging their business by using defamatory
terms in relation to the them in order to promote another company's
products is not only wrong, but it is illegal.  Damages are being
sought.

And if turns out that Google is involved in this too, then I guess
they will be brought into the lawsuit as well.  But don't tell me that
Google and McAfee are not in collusion.  Perhaps they were not when
this thread was started, but I believe they certainly are at this
point in time.  There's never been a time when I've typed in a domain
name, and received a different domain (ie SiteAdvisor) as the first
return; never.

Regards,

Brian Herring

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