Good relations with any Non-profit organization make a great corporation like Google look good. And when Google looks good, its stock goes up.
Any employee -- such as you reading this now -- who suggests an improvement to Google's public image will look good.
Here's one suggestion you could make.
Make it easier for Non-profits to implement a Google sitemap. Non- profits by definition are short of money. That means we have to find shortcuts to do what we need on a shoe-string.
My Non-profit uses a web-based application's template system for our website. It is free. However, there does not seem to be anyway to upload a sitemap without embedding it in html.
Google could very easily present a simple and elegant workaround.
This would show that Google works well with Non-profits -- and so Google must be a VERY progressive company. And a company with a good conscience.
How about Google? A workaround for sitemaps surrounded by html code.
You need to ask the people that supply the service to either allow you to upload a sitemap or better yet, create a script that will automatically create one for you. Many providers already do this.
> Good relations with any Non-profit organization make a great > corporation like Google look good. And when Google looks good, its > stock goes up.
> Any employee -- such as you reading this now -- who suggests an > improvement to Google's public image will look good.
> Here's one suggestion you could make.
> Make it easier for Non-profits to implement a Google sitemap. Non- > profits by definition are short of money. That means we have to find > shortcuts to do what we need on a shoe-string.
> My Non-profit uses a web-based application's template system for our > website. It is free. However, there does not seem to be anyway to > upload a sitemap without embedding it in html.
> Google could very easily present a simple and elegant workaround.
> This would show that Google works well with Non-profits -- and so > Google must be a VERY progressive company. And a company with a good > conscience.
> How about Google? A workaround for sitemaps surrounded by html code.
My uninformed guess is that the vast majority of websites are non- profit. I have spent 4 years funding my sites, writing, researching, building and re-building until we turned the corner into the sunny uplands of success and now we are seeing recognition and paydays.
Building my sites was my own choice, a risk I took because I believed that one day there would be rewards if I worked hard enough and produced something sufficiently worthwhile. When I wanted to do something new I found out how to do it, I didn't expect anyone to do anything for me; this last weekend I have spent figuring out how to create an interactive map. Delighted to say I have succeeded, thanks to the help of the guys on the maps Group (sorry, sounds sexist, but it does appear a fairly male preserve).
There are plenty of people around who will give you guidance quite freely, and in a cynical age it is very refreshing to know that you have virtual colleagues who help simply because they want to - it's the sort of people they are.
In a community people exchange, they don't just ask for favours. Asking nicely for help would have got you quite a few responses - expecting someone to fix things for you is plain alienating.
> Good relations with any Non-profit organization make a great > corporation like Google look good. And when Google looks good, its > stock goes up.
> Any employee -- such as you reading this now -- who suggests an > improvement to Google's public image will look good.
> Here's one suggestion you could make.
> Make it easier for Non-profits to implement a Google sitemap. Non- > profits by definition are short of money. That means we have to find > shortcuts to do what we need on a shoe-string.
> My Non-profit uses a web-based application's template system for our > website. It is free. However, there does not seem to be anyway to > upload a sitemap without embedding it in html.
> Google could very easily present a simple and elegant workaround.
> This would show that Google works well with Non-profits -- and so > Google must be a VERY progressive company. And a company with a good > conscience.
> How about Google? A workaround for sitemaps surrounded by html code.
While we do love non-profits and actually offer special benefits to them with some of our other services and products, I can imagine that our Webmaster Central team is looking forward to make sitemap- generation easier for *everyone* over time :).
Also, it's my understanding that there are quite a few sitemap.xml generators that are free-of-charge already.
And John H. Gohde:
> How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for taking that into consideration for future posts :-)
> > How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
> I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to > spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more > polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for > taking that into consideration for future posts :-)
I have spent many a weekend figuring things out such as how to get out of the supplementals, how to program, how to use CSS, how to code html, how to modify WordPress php pages and plugins, how to write JCL, COBOL, Pascal, Basic, Force, DbaseIII, Access, and C programs. On and on it goes.
Looking at http://www.allsaintsgreenville.org/sitemap.dsp I could tell right off that the guy needed to work on the basics. And, probably couldn't even articulate correctly what he really want to say.
> Looking athttp://www.allsaintsgreenville.org/sitemap.dsp > I could tell right off that the guy needed to work on the basics. > And, probably couldn't even articulate correctly what he really want > to say.
Don't off-topic insults and trolling violate some rule somewhere?
Actually the host and programmers do a marvellous job! They are: http://www.vsym.com/ . The company using the program hosts 25,000 sites like ours for FREE! They are: http://www.forministry.com/ . We have nothing but good to say about these two companies and they have a beautiful product.
The problem is: The site is restricted to a template-driven, web-based application. That means that a sitemap (xtml) will be surrounded by html. From studying mine and others' posts in the fora on this, it seems that the Google crawler does not yet recognize sitemaps embedded in html. This makes sense to me!
The Feature Request is: Many other users here have the same problem. Since we are hosted for free, it might be a little rude for us to insist that the hosts re- write the web-based application. So, does Google have a way to workaround embedding sitemaps (in xtml) in html?
There seems to be many people posting in the fora this and like problems, so many people would be grateful and Google would look even better than it already does -- if that's possible!
> While we do love non-profits and actually offer special benefits to > them with some of our other services and products, I can imagine that > our Webmaster Central team is looking forward to make sitemap- > generation easier for *everyone* over time :).
> Also, it's my understanding that there are quite a few sitemap.xml > generators that are free-of-charge already.
> And John H. Gohde:
> > How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
> I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to > spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more > polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for > taking that into consideration for future posts :-)
Do you have FTP access? With that you don't need to have anybody change anything in the way the web builder application works. You get to upload files which don't get messed up by the web builder application and eveybody is happy. But you have to ask for the FTP access.
However as I said it is not needed to submit an xml nor even a txt sitemap. You can just submit the site itself.
> Actually, I am blown away by all the free features Google offers! > Sometimes I feel like a kid in a candy store.
> On Jul 23, 5:57 pm, Adam Lasnik wrote:
> > Far99,
> > While we do love non-profits and actually offer special benefits to > > them with some of our other services and products, I can imagine that > > our Webmaster Central team is looking forward to make sitemap- > > generation easier for *everyone* over time :).
> > Also, it's my understanding that there are quite a few sitemap.xml > > generators that are free-of-charge already.
> > And John H. Gohde:
> > > How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
> > I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to > > spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more > > polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for > > taking that into consideration for future posts :-)- Hide quoted text -
I have submitted the site by hand. I should like to see if Google sitemaps speed indexing of new supplemental result pages. Submitting pages by hand does not seem to affect indexing.
Google seems to emphasize sitemaps. Maybe another question would be "Why are they so important to Google?" Sitemaps are no longer helpful for human navigation of websites.
> Do you have FTP access? With that you don't need to have anybody > change anything in the way the web builder application works. > You get to upload files which don't get messed up by the web builder > application and eveybody is happy. But you have to ask for the FTP > access.
> However as I said it is not needed to submit an xml nor even a txt > sitemap. > You can just submit the site itself.
> On Jul 24, 2:59 pm, Far99 wrote:
> > Thanks Adam!
> > Actually, I am blown away by all the free features Google offers! > > Sometimes I feel like a kid in a candy store.
> > On Jul 23, 5:57 pm, Adam Lasnik wrote:
> > > Far99,
> > > While we do love non-profits and actually offer special benefits to > > > them with some of our other services and products, I can imagine that > > > our Webmaster Central team is looking forward to make sitemap- > > > generation easier for *everyone* over time :).
> > > Also, it's my understanding that there are quite a few sitemap.xml > > > generators that are free-of-charge already.
> > > And John H. Gohde:
> > > > How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
> > > I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to > > > spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more > > > polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for > > > taking that into consideration for future posts :-)- Hide quoted text -
> I have submitted the site by hand. I should like to see if Google > sitemaps speed indexing of new supplemental result pages. Submitting > pages by hand does not seem to affect indexing.
> Google seems to emphasize sitemaps. Maybe another question would be > "Why are they so important to Google?" Sitemaps are no longer helpful > for human navigation of websites.
> On Jul 24, 5:12 pm, webado wrote:
> > Do you have FTP access? With that you don't need to have anybody > > change anything in the way the web builder application works. > > You get to upload files which don't get messed up by the web builder > > application and eveybody is happy. But you have to ask for the FTP > > access.
> > However as I said it is not needed to submit an xml nor even a txt > > sitemap. > > You can just submit the site itself.
> > On Jul 24, 2:59 pm, Far99 wrote:
> > > Thanks Adam!
> > > Actually, I am blown away by all the free features Google offers! > > > Sometimes I feel like a kid in a candy store.
> > > On Jul 23, 5:57 pm, Adam Lasnik wrote:
> > > > Far99,
> > > > While we do love non-profits and actually offer special benefits to > > > > them with some of our other services and products, I can imagine that > > > > our Webmaster Central team is looking forward to make sitemap- > > > > generation easier for *everyone* over time :).
> > > > Also, it's my understanding that there are quite a few sitemap.xml > > > > generators that are free-of-charge already.
> > > > And John H. Gohde:
> > > > > How about spending a weekend figuring out how to do what you want done?
> > > > I think that's a somewhat-fair request, if you'll similarly agree to > > > > spend a weekend practicing communicating in a manner that's more > > > > polite and friendly, or -- at minimum -- less snarky. Thanks for > > > > taking that into consideration for future posts :-)- Hide quoted text -
