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MagicGeorge  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 1:00 am
From: MagicGeorge
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:00:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 1:00 am
Subject: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
<a href="link.html" title="discription"><img src="i.jpg" alt=""></a>

I thought its would better to make optimization and not to irritate
visitors with emerging tooltips. On this example, IE users cannot see
a tooltips for an image (the alt tag is empty), but what Google
indexes better, should I replace discription back to the alt
attribute?


 
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MagicGeorge  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 1:08 am
From: MagicGeorge
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:08:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 1:08 am
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
I know some people uses both title and alt attributes, but can it be
lead to negative consequences, such as Googlebot consider it as spam?
I would like to use just one attribute.

 
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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 7:55 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:55:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
Hi MagicGeorge and welcome to the groups!

I'll just copy & paste something from a blog post we made a while
back:
According to the W3C recommendations, the "alt" attribute specifies an
alternate text for user agents that cannot display images, forms or
applets. The "title" attribute is a bit different: it "offers advisory
information about the element for which it is set." As the Googlebot
does not see the images directly, we generally concentrate on the
information provided in the "alt" attribute. Feel free to supplement
the "alt" attribute with "title" and other attributes if they provide
value to your users!
- http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-alt-attribut...

So for example, if you have an image of a puppy (these seem popular at
the moment :-)) playing with a ball, you could use something like "My
puppy Betsy playing with a bowling ball" as the alt-attribute for the
image. If you also have a link around the image, pointing a large
version of the same photo, you could use "View this image in high-
resolution" as the title attribute for the link.

In other words, the title-attribute is to provide information about
the *link* (what's going to happen when I click here?), the alt-
attribute is to provide an alternative to the *image* (what is this
image about?).

John


 
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TaLLie  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 7:57 am
From: TaLLie
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:57:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 7:57 am
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
Nice explanation... though i always thought the alt tag cannot be that
long. 3 words max.

On 16 nov, 13:55, JohnMu wrote:


 
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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 6:32 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:32:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
Hi TaLLie and welcome to the groups!

The alt attribute can actually be much longer than 3 words. They say
that a picture is worth a thousand words, but I wouldn't quite go that
far :).  At any rate, more than three words is certainly fine. Make it
a simple description without going too far to describe alternatives of
alternatives.

For instance, in the example I mentioned above, using "puppie playing
with ball, dog playing with toy, small dog, pet toy, play ball, cute
puppie, betsie puppie with ball, cheap dog toys, pet toys, animal
food, animal care, pet care, puppie care, puppie toys" would be going
a bit tooo far (not to mention that it would scare users away if they
saw it).

Cheers
John


 
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Aaron Pratt  
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 More options Nov 16 2008, 7:46 pm
From: Aaron Pratt
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:46:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 16 2008 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
physically challenged folks rely on the ALT more than any (with their
navigational software)...

when i write an ALT I always do so with someone who can not see in
mind.

If you think like that, you never get it wrong. :)

On Nov 16, 6:32 pm, JohnMu wrote:


 
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TaLLie  
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 More options Nov 17 2008, 7:18 pm
From: TaLLie
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:18:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 17 2008 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Does Google indexes a title tag for images?
Thanks both John and Aaron for clarify this one.

As for John .. i read

http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-star...
and
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help/web/q-a-from-the...

Thats a really nice job!


 
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