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tuscl_founder  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 12:45 pm
From: tuscl_founder
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 12:45 pm
Subject: Google's First Click Free Program
Do any webmasters have any experiences they would like to share with
using Google's first click free program?

http://www.google.com/support/news_pub/bin/answer.py?answer=40543&top...

This seems like a good way to give google all my pertinent information
without giving away the whole site.  I am surprised no one has
mentioned this before.


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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 2:31 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
Hi tuscl_founder

Actually, first-click-free is something that is currently reserved for
Google News, so this is not something that can be used for web
search.

Hope it helps!
John


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tuscl_founder  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 2:49 pm
From: tuscl_founder
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:49:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
why is that?

On Jun 4, 11:31 am, JohnMu wrote:


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tuscl_founder  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 3:11 pm
From: tuscl_founder
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program

If I serve member only content to googlebot and to users referred from
any other site than my own, and serve restricted content to non-
members referred from my site internally, does this violate google's
webmaster policies?  (Not that it really matters, because googles
search results still don't return anything relevant for my search
terms).

On Jun 4, 11:49 am, tuscl_founder wrote:


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JohnMu Google employee  
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(1 user)  More options Jun 4 2008, 8:24 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
Hi Tuscl_founder

Serving different content to the Googlebot than to the average visitor
is considered cloaking and is highly discouraged. If you want to have
member-only content listed in our index, one way would be to provide
only a small part of the content to all users (including the
Googlebot). If that part of the page is relevant enough, it may be
used in the snippet in the search results, and if the page itself is
compelling enough, a user may be interested in purchasing access to
the content itself. If the average (non-paying) user sees the same
content as the Googlebot, this kind of setup is generally fine with
us. If the Googlebot sees more than the user, then it's obviously not
something which we would like to see in our index.

Hope it helps!
John


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MrGamma  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 8:33 pm
From: MrGamma
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
On Jun 4, 2:49 pm, tuscl_founder wrote:

> why is that?

It sounds to me like the demise of the hard copy publishing industry
is causing policies to change... I could be wrong...

I wonder what's going to happen if everybody flips the web around and
goes inside facebook?


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MrGamma  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 8:37 pm
From: MrGamma
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
I sure this is grossly inaccurate... but it's interesting...
http://www.google.com/trends?q=google%2C+facebook&ctab=0&geo=all&date...

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tuscl_founder  
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 More options Jun 4 2008, 8:59 pm
From: tuscl_founder
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 4 2008 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Google's First Click Free Program
JohnMu

the average non-paying user would see the same page as googlebot
providing he accesses that page from outside of tuscl.com (i.e. from
search results on google, should I ever show up in them again).  Is
that considered cloaking?


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