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Riona MacNamara Google employee  
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From: Riona MacNamara
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:11:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 6 2007 2:11 pm
Subject: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
We've just posted a new video (http://
googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com), where Matt Cutts gives some
great advice on how to use ALT attributes to increase the
discoverability of your images on the web.

Thoughts? Ideas? We love feedback!


 
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From: JLH
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:25:24 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Here's the link:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-alt-attribut...

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From: roysnj
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:26:51 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Can't see it. Are you shure it's psted correctly?

Roysnj

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 3:39 pm
From: Chibcha
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:39:26 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Hi roysnj

The link seems to be working now. BTW, happened to see  one of your
old posts about your Google alter ego, Roisin. As a piece of
relatively useless information, this is Gaelic, essentially translates
as Rosie, as in the christian name.

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 4:02 pm
From: beckysharpe
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:02:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Thanks, Riona and Matt.  I'm in a fairly visual medium (dogs and cats)
so we get a lot of image searches and they serve us well.  I've
concentrated on descriptive file names and very short, to-the-point
alt text - as in "Ragdoll kitten" - but it seems that a more specific
alt is welcome.  So now "Seal Point Ragdoll kitten with mittens" would
work better.

That's good for me and very useful for searchers. But interesting to
see that file names are pretty well discounted in favour of alt text?

Becky

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 5:51 pm
From: ConnieS
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:51:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly

On Dec 6, 1:11 pm, Riona MacNamara wrote:

> We've just posted a new video (http://
> googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com), where Matt Cutts gives some
> great advice on how to use ALT attributes to increase the
> discoverability of your images on the web.

> Thoughts? Ideas? We love feedback!

I'm on Dial up and videos are worthless to me.  It would be very
helpful when some one from Google did a video to post a text only
version.

 
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From: ConnieS
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:53:22 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 6:18 pm
From: Lee7830
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:18:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 6 2007 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Riona,

YouTube videos are useless to me because

1. Our IT department has locked them out. Can you provide a
transcription or a short summary of the video?
2. Even when I could see Youtube videos, I rarely clicked on them as
it's impossible to devote 10 or 30 minutes to watching something while
at work, no matter how relevent to the job at hand. I'm a quick reader
and skimming a written post is much easier to grasp essential bits.

Thank you
Lee

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 8:44 pm
From: Brent Miller
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:44:56 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
I agree that videos aren't very useful; it takes much longer to obtain
information from them than from text, and the content of the videos
isn't searchable, even using Google...

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 9:30 pm
From: Robbo
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:30:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Riona

I think Matt Cutts always explains things clearly and interestingly in
a disarmingly laid back sort of way.

It would be good though if he could learn to write more clearly on the
board so that the writing is legible even to people unfamiliar with
the terms being used.

And could Google Resources Department provide him with some fresh
boardmarkers!

Thanks for all your efforts,

Robbo

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 11:04 pm
From: webado
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:04:42 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Well Mat didn't say that more descriptive file names aren't also
important, only that providing alt text for the images you are
currently using is a very good first step towards optimization, which
doesn't a big effort.

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 More options Dec 6 2007, 11:44 pm
From: Digithink
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:44:58 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
The videos are a great idea (for those of us who can see them), as
they correct a lot of mis-information that is out there.

This one (ALT attributes) was an improvement on the sound clarity from
last time.

However, the oblique angle, and the small 'casual' writing style on
the whiteboard could have been improved (sorry Matt) for legibility.

I look forward to the next releases!

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 More options Dec 7 2007, 7:36 am
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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 04:36:44 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
On Dec 6, 8:11 pm, Riona MacNamara wrote:

> Thoughts? Ideas? We love feedback!

These Videos are great. Keep them Coming. Haw about one which explains
the google Algorithm ;-) No really, they offer lots of insight. Good
work!

 
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 More options Dec 7 2007, 9:15 am
From: Tripp
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 06:15:37 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
3 minutes of video-based information that could have been more
effectively covered with an image and 3 sentences of text. Helpful
information...but a huge waste of time and bandwidth.

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 More options Dec 7 2007, 12:04 pm
From: webado
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:04:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Well there are people who need to see and hear somebody say something
for credibility.
For me I prefer reading something, I concentrate better and retain
better written stuff than any other form. Of course, this particular
video is small and entertaining, but  something longer and more
intricate would need a written transcript IMO.

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 More options Dec 7 2007, 12:17 pm
From: Maciej Gluszek
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:17:53 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
True, but just look at the group. People come that I think do not know
what others are talking to them about. You can repeat three times, and
they come back again asking about the same thing.
Also, some expect direct answers from google staff and do not believe
things that non-googles write.
So maybe a video with will help them.

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 More options Dec 7 2007, 1:38 pm
From: R.M.
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:38:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2007 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
On 6 Dez., 20:11, Riona MacNamara wrote:

> We've just posted a new video (http://
> googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com), where Matt Cutts gives some
> great advice on how to use ALT attributes to increase the
> discoverability of your images on the web.

> Thoughts? Ideas? We love feedback!

I have here a special approach on my sites.

I have all the pictures on my sites in 3 formats

picture-name.jpg like used on the web site
picture-name_dir.jpg thumbnail like used on index pages
picture-name_print.jpg original picture

The original picture is always linke from the page with a small icon
and a text like

high res picture

How to make this pictures good indexed?


 
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 More options Dec 7 2007, 3:20 pm
From: R.M.
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:20:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2007 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
On 7 Dez., 19:38, R.M. wrote:

I just checked the problem:

When I asked

[url=http://images.google.com/images?
q=site:pege.org&svnum=100&hl=de&rls=GGLG,GGLG:
2006-04,GGLG:en&imgsz=xxlarge]Google for large images on my site[/url]
Only 84 indexed but when I ask
[url=http://images.google.com/images?
q=site:pege.org&svnum=100&hl=de&rls=GGLG,GGLG:
2006-04,GGLG:en&imgsz=small|medium|large|xlarge]Google for medium
sized images on my site[/url] 3500 search results

At [url=http://images.google.com/images?
q=site:pege.org&svnum=100&hl=de&rls=GGLG,GGLG:
2006-04,GGLG:en&imgsz=huge]Huge Pictures 837 indexed[/url]

But the huge picture count indexed should be equal to the medium sized
picture count.

This is important for me, since besides AdSense, selling licenses for
my pictures develops to a second line of income for my sites.


 
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 More options Dec 11 2007, 9:04 am
From: CharlieA
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:04:13 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Webmaster Central video blog: Using ALT attributes smartly
Good presentation except the your examples were not large enough with
sufficient contrast to be easy to read.

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