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dianah  
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 More options Oct 19 2006, 1:57 pm
From: dianah
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:57:08 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 19 2006 1:57 pm
Subject: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's
I was wondering if the Preferred Domain section under the Diagnostic
tab on the My Account page might be causing my problem with getting my
gsitecrawler sitemap to be recognized by Google without errors.  I have
a Path Not Matched kind of error.  The explanation said something about
using the www or not.  I forget the exact explanation but maybe some of
you know what I'm talking about.  I can't remember if I initially added
my site this way or not, but Google has me indexed as
http://picturesarepriceless.com in My Account.  I'm afraid to "delete"
the site and add a new one as http://www.picturesarepriceless.com.  And
maybe this is not even the issue, but I'm not sure what to do at this
point.  All I know for sure is that Google says my sitemap has errors
because my sitemap has URLs using the w's.  I've deleted my sitemap
entirely from My Account.  So does anyone know what I should do next?
Thanks for any help!

Diana


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JCF1996  
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(1 user)  More options Oct 19 2006, 2:23 pm
From: JCF1996
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:23:47 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

Diana, I believe the best solution would be to use your .htaccess and
force all of your links to the non www.  When you crawl to generate
your sitemap through gsitecrawler, this will guarantee that the non www
will be used.  I had the same thing happen to me, so I know what you
are going through.

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dianah  
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 More options Oct 19 2006, 3:54 pm
From: dianah
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:54:03 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 19 2006 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

JCF1996 wrote:
> Diana, I believe the best solution would be to use your .htaccess and
> force all of your links to the non www.  When you crawl to generate
> your sitemap through gsitecrawler, this will guarantee that the non www
> will be used.  I had the same thing happen to me, so I know what you
> are going through.

I sure hate to show my ignorance, but what is .htaccess?  Also, if this
is important to know, my host is godaddy.com.  I'm guessing that when I
initially published my site to godaddy (using Microsoft FrontPage) I
used the www.  Or, maybe they defaulted me to www.  Can't remember.
Would I need to change anything through godaddy.com?

Diana


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JLH  
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 More options Oct 19 2006, 4:00 pm
From: JLH
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:00:52 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 19 2006 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's
.htaccess is a file that is used if the site is hosted on an APACHE
server, if you are using a microsoft IIS server it will not be
available.  If you are on an IIS server the following code will work
for your .asp pages.

http://www.jlh-design.com/2006/08/301-redirects-in-asp-on-iis-server....


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JCF1996  
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 More options Oct 19 2006, 4:00 pm
From: JCF1996
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:00:54 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 19 2006 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

dianah wrote:
> I sure hate to show my ignorance, but what is .htaccess?  Also, if this
> is important to know, my host is godaddy.com.  I'm guessing that when I
> initially published my site to godaddy (using Microsoft FrontPage) I
> used the www.  Or, maybe they defaulted me to www.  Can't remember.
> Would I need to change anything through godaddy.com?

> Diana

Diana, the .htaccess might be a bit beyond you, if you are not
comfortable with coding outside of the visual environment of FrontPage
(personally, I recommend that you use Dreamweaver instead of
FrontPage).  However, if you have regular FTP access to your site, the
file would go in the same directory as your main index.html file.  You
can make a .htaccess file through several methods or have your web-host
make one for you (they may or may not do this for you).  Alternatively,
I would be happy to create one for you and send it to you to upload to
your site.

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dianah  
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 More options Oct 21 2006, 7:25 am
From: dianah
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:25:27 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 21 2006 7:25 am
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

JCF1996 wrote:
> Diana, the .htaccess might be a bit beyond you, if you are not
> comfortable with coding outside of the visual environment of FrontPage
> (personally, I recommend that you use Dreamweaver instead of
> FrontPage).  However, if you have regular FTP access to your site, the
> file would go in the same directory as your main index.html file.  You
> can make a .htaccess file through several methods or have your web-host
> make one for you (they may or may not do this for you).  Alternatively,
> I would be happy to create one for you and send it to you to upload to
> your site.

Thanks so much for your reply and offer to help.  Sorry for the slow
response back to you.  I had to take a break from all this stuff.  I
think it was getting to me, ya know?  Guess what?  I got a resonse from
a Google person, and she told me to add the site with the www, then
verify, submit the sitemap, and then delete the site with no w's.  It
worked - the sitemap status is "OK".  What a relief.

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dianah  
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 More options Oct 21 2006, 7:30 am
From: dianah
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:30:35 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 21 2006 7:30 am
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

JLH wrote:
> .htaccess is a file that is used if the site is hosted on an APACHE
> server, if you are using a microsoft IIS server it will not be
> available.  If you are on an IIS server the following code will work
> for your .asp pages.

> http://www.jlh-design.com/2006/08/301-redirects-in-asp-on-iis-server....

As it turned out, I didn't have to use a .htaccess file.  After I added
my site with the w's and deleted the one without, it seems all ok.
Sounds too easy, huh?  I'm so appreciate of you responding to my
question.  I'll be so glad when all this technical stuff is behind me.

Thanks,
Diana


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Red Cardinal  
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 More options Oct 21 2006, 11:38 am
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:38:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's
Dianah

I think you should really try to implement the redirect via .htaccess.

Its not that hard - about 3 short lines which are readily available
online.

Your site is still available via both www and non-www.

Rgds

Richard


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dianah  
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 More options Oct 21 2006, 6:36 pm
From: dianah
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:36:01 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 21 2006 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

Red Cardinal wrote:
> I think you should really try to implement the redirect via .htaccess.

> Its not that hard - about 3 short lines which are readily available
> online.

> Your site is still available via both www and non-www.

What should the lines be?  I have the domain hosted through
godaddy.com.  I looked back through my info, and they do have the name
set up without the www.  Man, I thought I had this battle conquered.
Oh, well.  I really appreciate you letting me know this.  Thanks so
much.

Diana


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Red Cardinal  
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 More options Oct 22 2006, 5:19 am
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:19:40 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:19 am
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's
Have a look here:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/rewriteguide.html

under the Canonical URL heading

Actually here you go:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^picturesarepriceless.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.picturesarepriceless.com/$1 [R=301,L]

If your .htaccess file is empty then stick this into a plain text file,
rename it .htaccess and upload to the root folder (select overwrite).

If your .htaccess file has lines in it then append this to it (remove
the first line if it's there all ready and stick the other 2 below it).


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dianah  
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 More options Oct 22 2006, 6:19 pm
From: dianah
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:19:01 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 22 2006 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's

Red Cardinal wrote:

> If your .htaccess file is empty then stick this into a plain text file,
> rename it .htaccess and upload to the root folder (select overwrite).

> If your .htaccess file has lines in it then append this to it (remove
> the first line if it's there all ready and stick the other 2 below it).

I'm reading all I can right now on the htaccess file.  I want to
understand it and what it does.  You mentioned that if my "file is
empty" ...    Well, I don't even have one currently, so I guess I
follow the instructions as if it's empty?  Thanks so much for your
help, and also thanks to JLH and JCF1996.  I'll let ya'll know how this
turns out.

Diana
www.picturesarepriceless.com

P.S.  I'd rather be restoring photographs.  :)


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JCF1996  
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 More options Oct 23 2006, 3:22 pm
From: JCF1996
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:22:43 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 23 2006 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: Preferred Domain - www vs. no w's
Dianah, I believe it is a mistake to submit both the www and non-www to
the search engines.  What actually ends up happening is that the search
engines will crawl your site based on both.  Sounds great right?
You'll have double the results in Google, right?  Must be win-win,
right?  The answer is, it's not great, you will have double results and
it is not win-win because Google will say you have duplicate content
and your ratings will drop.

I can't believe Google would give you such a brief "solution" without
telling you more to do.  Do they want to hurt you?

You need to put the .htaccess in place to eliminate the duplicate
results in the search engines.  It will take a bit of time to resolve,
but it will.  Also, if you ever start another site, I recommend getting
the .htaccess with the re-write rules in place right away to prevent
this problem from happening again.


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