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Admin Aaron  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 9:45 am
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:45:34 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 9:45 am
Subject: Duplicate blocks of text
I was looking at my site (ne-design [dot] net) and trying to figure
out if I should move shipping information to a single page. The same
duplicate text now shows up on multiple pages, this can not be good
right? Are duplicate blocks of text that appear on multiple pages
hurting me by a few points in Google algorithms? I have no problem
making a page dedicated to shipping questions then adding a link to
it, good idea?

Another question is does Google respect blockquotes? If I add a
blockqoute to the duplicate text can I leave it on each page? How
about expanding upon this idea, it really could help if people had
ways to disallow duplicate blocks of text, having the shipping
information on each page helps to comfort people enough to make a sale
in come cases.

Am I making sense? What is the best way to fix this potential issue?


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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:03 am
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:03:16 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:03 am
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
Google is omitting duplicate text results from the other pages here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Free+Shipping+to+anywhere+in+...

BUT this doesn't mean having duplicate blocks of text on multiple
pages is good right?

Solution? Thanks!

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webado  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:19 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:19:56 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:19 am
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
Interesting, I assume you'd want to use something like:

<blockquote cite="original-content-page.html">Some content also
defined elsewhere</blockquote>

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2

No idea if robots use it for this suggested meaning. Might.

You could use javascript to add such text if you are worried it will
be seen as duplicate - then none of it will get indexed and that's
that.

But I wouldn't worry. Like footers, menus, slogans this is content
that is common to many pages and robots don't bother with it. They may
index words from it in one occurrence of that content and not for all
pages where it shows up exactly the same way.

I assume in any case you are not interested in your shipping
information being indexed unless it has some very important and
desirable feature that people may actually search for - can't think
what that might be though. This is kind of likethe  Terms and
Conditions page, Disclaimer or other similar pages. Not much use
having them indexed.

It's been said duplicate content on your own site only becomes an
issue if the content that's duplicated far outweighs the original
content on a page. And in the end all that can happen is that pages
which are mostly duplicate content just get ignored from indexing - or
rather become supplemental - except now we no longer see the
supplemental tag.

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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:21 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:21:22 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:21 am
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
I would try it at the frist opportunity. Nothing like live testing
soemthign :)
I don't think it can harm anyhting, but it might also not do anyhting
sepcial.

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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:58 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:58:17 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:58 am
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
Omitting is not the same thing as not including at all. It's kind of
just condensed into one entry and can be expanded to show all
occurrences. So it's not bad.
And the condensing concerns the results for that query, not to say in
general all thsoe pages wil be codensed into one - uless all they are
about is shippping.

In general check to see what is being omitted and why:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enCA226CA226&q...
and
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:ne-design.net&num=100&hl=en&rlz=1...

There appear to be 3 pages that get omitted for the first query.

I'd be a bit more concerned over those.

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 More options Sep 24 2007, 2:08 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:08:57 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
Yeah thanks, must fix that... the sitemap and the content are kind of
looking duplicate there:

They are pages in wordpress that end on http://www.ne-design.net/sitemap
(or) http://www.ne-design.net/sitemap to make some consistancy I
should probably move them the "posts" that end in sitemap.html and
contact.html then 301 them over?

The thankyou page also has a old broken navbar...doh, forgot about
that one!

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 More options Sep 24 2007, 2:44 pm
From: silverstall
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:44:57 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
A further option if you are worried over dupe content with block
script is to create a Jpeg or Gif with the block text layered into it.
The bots see an image rather than text although this option can be
limited by size as optimizing images can sometimes make the text
pixilated, if there is a lot of it.

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 More options Sep 24 2007, 3:28 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:28:11 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Duplicate blocks of text
Thanks silverstall... that is a thought though I really hate the idea
of using images to replace text (I did this with a few "free shipping"
images, wouldn't want to have "free" used 20 times on the site now
would I?) I am thinking the better idea is to make a new page or add
the information to my FAQ then hotlink to "shipping" (using a
nofollow). The alternative would be to make a single page for shipping
info., leave the shipping text information on the index/then disallow
the page in robots.txt? =P

Webado - You are great at finding messy code, will make my sitemap and
contact pages "posts" so they end in .html then 301 over to them from
the old pages to make a 100% consistant "permalink structure", hoorah!
=P

Having a site that has no broken links, validates and has a consistant
permalink structure may not help it to rank for stuff but surely it
allows one to present content to Google in an easy to follow way,
there will no longer be any wondering if Google is getting it right!
The new thought will be, "well I am doing all I can so forget about
worrying about Google"!

Thanks again!

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