> I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> Dunno.  But it gives me a clue about two words NOT to put on any of my
> sites.

> The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> Thanks for the help

> Chuckles .

> SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> You need ..
> good quality relevant incoming links.
> When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> to reappear.

> You are not using any black hat.

> WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> roysnj

> On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> LOL

> Well Roy,

> I am not looking for any secrets per se.  What I am wondering is why I
> don't even show up anymore.  All my coworkers started the contest at
> the same time, and a friend linked to my page from his blog herehttp://sleepycatpaul.livejournal.com/and he shows up in the results.
> So I have definitely done something to anger the SEO Gods.  But for
> the life of me I can't think of what it is.

> The whole learning thing becomes moot if I can't figuer out what is a
> no-no and what is allowed.  And as far as I can tell I am not pushing
> the boundaries of acceptable linking by any means.

> I really want to figure out what is going on.

> On Jun 18, 6:17 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > Chuckles .

> > SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> > On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> > and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> > You need ..
> > good quality relevant incoming links.
> > When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> > to reappear.

> > You are not using any black hat.

> > WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> > roysnj

> > On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Dave

> Your main page davehamel.com has not been crawled since May 5.
> I looked at your site map..
> Your main page should have a priority of 1.0 not .5
> Once google crawls your main page again it should see the internal
> link to Yoshi. Chnage the freq to daily for the main page. Add a freq
> for yoshi page of daily and priority of .5
> Go into webmaster tools and resubmit your sitemap.

> Other then that ...WAIT!!

> roysnj [@] comcast.net

> On Jun 18, 6:35 pm, daavq wrote:

> > LOL

> > Well Roy,

> > I am not looking for any secrets per se.  What I am wondering is why I
> > don't even show up anymore.  All my coworkers started the contest at
> > the same time, and a friend linked to my page from his blog herehttp://sleepycatpaul.livejournal.com/andhe shows up in the results.
> > So I have definitely done something to anger the SEO Gods.  But for
> > the life of me I can't think of what it is.

> > The whole learning thing becomes moot if I can't figuer out what is a
> > no-no and what is allowed.  And as far as I can tell I am not pushing
> > the boundaries of acceptable linking by any means.

> > I really want to figure out what is going on.

> > On Jun 18, 6:17 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > Chuckles .

> > > SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> > > On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> > > and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> > > You need ..
> > > good quality relevant incoming links.
> > > When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> > > to reappear.

> > > You are not using any black hat.

> > > WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> > > roysnj

> > > On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > > > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > > > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > > > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > > > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > > > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > > > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > > > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > > > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > > > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > > > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > > > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Hi,

> If you look at google cache of your home pagewww.davehamel.com, you
> will see that it was indexed on 10 June and DID NOT then have the link
> to your Yoshi page on so google will not be aware of the link until it
> next crawls.   I suggest you focus on doing all you can to stimulate a
> crawl of your Homepage and your Yoshi page.

> There is one other small detail you may have overlooked!

> The link from the Dave Hamel homepagehttp://www.davehamel.com/
> is to:http://www.davehamel.com/yoshirolla-kilomantra/yoshirolla-kilomantra.htm
> but the URL you gave in your post AND the form used on your link-
> invite is:http://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> (note the uppercase).

> Now, a Microstuffed IIS server is not going to be case-sensitive for
> folders/filenames BUT google is (and many websites are eg Apache/Unix/
> Linux platforms).http://www.davehamel.com/yoshirolla-kilomantra/yoshirolla-kilomantra....
> These would initially be seen as different URLs by google thus
> diluting any link value and credit earned by your page/s.

> Yes, over a period Google would probably figure out that one of these
> two versions needs to be dropped, but in a competitions, every little
> helps!

> Even if it is not the cause of the invisibility, I thought you'd be
> keen to know that in the context of SEO, URLs should always be
> regarded as case-sensitive.

> Good luck with the competition!

> Robbo

> PS 'kilo' is the metric prefix meaning 1000 thus kilomantra is a
> thousand prayers or a single prayer equal to 1000 basic ones.  IT
> computing (but not telecoms) the prefix kilo equates to 1024 thus a
> kilomantra spoken by a computer boffin is 2.4% holier than one spoken
> by a telecoms engineer.  :-)

> PPS Thanks for the info about Rolla.  Is that the same place as the
> Rolla inhttp://www.4guysfromrolla.com/   ?

> Thanks Roy!  I will do that right away.  I will keep you posted on my
> efforts.  Is it okay if I post your reply on my blog?

> On Jun 18, 7:57 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > Dave

> > Your main page davehamel.com has not been crawled since May 5.
> > I looked at your site map..
> > Your main page should have a priority of 1.0 not .5
> > Once google crawls your main page again it should see the internal
> > link to Yoshi. Chnage the freq to daily for the main page. Add a freq
> > for yoshi page of daily and priority of .5
> > Go into webmaster tools and resubmit your sitemap.

> > Other then that ...WAIT!!

> > roysnj [@] comcast.net

> > On Jun 18, 6:35 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > LOL

> > > Well Roy,

> > > I am not looking for any secrets per se.  What I am wondering is why I
> > > don't even show up anymore.  All my coworkers started the contest at
> > > the same time, and a friend linked to my page from his blog herehttp://sleepycatpaul.livejournal.com/andheshows up in the results.
> > > So I have definitely done something to anger the SEO Gods.  But for
> > > the life of me I can't think of what it is.

> > > The whole learning thing becomes moot if I can't figuer out what is a
> > > no-no and what is allowed.  And as far as I can tell I am not pushing
> > > the boundaries of acceptable linking by any means.

> > > I really want to figure out what is going on.

> > > On Jun 18, 6:17 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > > Chuckles .

> > > > SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> > > > On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> > > > and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> > > > You need ..
> > > > good quality relevant incoming links.
> > > > When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> > > > to reappear.

> > > > You are not using any black hat.

> > > > WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> > > > roysnj

> > > > On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > > > > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > > > > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > > > > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > > > > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > > > > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > > > > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > > > > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > > > > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > > > > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > > > > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > > > > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> One word, "Supplemental Index"!

> Ok, so that was two words, so sue me!

> What you need to do to get the page out of the supplemental index is
> to throw more inbound links at it.

> I just happened to have one laying around,http://cass-hacks.com/bits_n_bytes/seo_competition/
> so I thought I'd throw it in your direction.

> Sorry though, I didn't quite use the anchor text you were asking for
> on your competition page.

> You'll be sure to tell me if I win, right?  :-()

> Of course I can't win YOUR competition but, and if it is a BIG but, if
> my page does even half way decent, it should give yours a fair boost
> as well.

> Sometimes one can't climb up out of the hole that one is in but one
> can usually always stomp on everyone else so they are at least deeper
> in the hole.  :-()

> Craig

> p.s. although that page will of course show no PageRank, almost all
> the other pages linked in similarly are PageRank 3 and although a
> PageRank of 3 is not all that much, it is better than a kick in the
> teeth.  :-)

> On Jun 19, 9:38 am, daavq wrote:

> > Thanks Roy!  I will do that right away.  I will keep you posted on my
> > efforts.  Is it okay if I post your reply on my blog?

> > On Jun 18, 7:57 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > Dave

> > > Your main page davehamel.com has not been crawled since May 5.
> > > I looked at your site map..
> > > Your main page should have a priority of 1.0 not .5
> > > Once google crawls your main page again it should see the internal
> > > link to Yoshi. Chnage the freq to daily for the main page. Add a freq
> > > for yoshi page of daily and priority of .5
> > > Go into webmaster tools and resubmit your sitemap.

> > > Other then that ...WAIT!!

> > > roysnj [@] comcast.net

> > > On Jun 18, 6:35 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > LOL

> > > > Well Roy,

> > > > I am not looking for any secrets per se.  What I am wondering is why I
> > > > don't even show up anymore.  All my coworkers started the contest at
> > > > the same time, and a friend linked to my page from his blog herehttp://sleepycatpaul.livejournal.com/andheshowsup in the results.
> > > > So I have definitely done something to anger the SEO Gods.  But for
> > > > the life of me I can't think of what it is.

> > > > The whole learning thing becomes moot if I can't figuer out what is a
> > > > no-no and what is allowed.  And as far as I can tell I am not pushing
> > > > the boundaries of acceptable linking by any means.

> > > > I really want to figure out what is going on.

> > > > On Jun 18, 6:17 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > > > Chuckles .

> > > > > SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> > > > > On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> > > > > and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> > > > > You need ..
> > > > > good quality relevant incoming links.
> > > > > When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> > > > > to reappear.

> > > > > You are not using any black hat.

> > > > > WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> > > > > roysnj

> > > > > On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > > > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > > > > > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > > > > > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > > > > > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > > > > > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > > > > > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > > > > > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > > > > > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > > > > > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > > > > > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > > > > > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > > > > > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> p.s. someone just dugg my page so who knows what will happen. :-()

> On Jun 19, 1:24 pm, cass-hacks wrote:

> > One word, "Supplemental Index"!

> > Ok, so that was two words, so sue me!

> > What you need to do to get the page out of the supplemental index is
> > to throw more inbound links at it.

> > I just happened to have one laying around,http://cass-hacks.com/bits_n_bytes/seo_competition/
> > so I thought I'd throw it in your direction.

> > Sorry though, I didn't quite use the anchor text you were asking for
> > on your competition page.

> > You'll be sure to tell me if I win, right?  :-()

> > Of course I can't win YOUR competition but, and if it is a BIG but, if
> > my page does even half way decent, it should give yours a fair boost
> > as well.

> > Sometimes one can't climb up out of the hole that one is in but one
> > can usually always stomp on everyone else so they are at least deeper
> > in the hole.  :-()

> > Craig

> > p.s. although that page will of course show no PageRank, almost all
> > the other pages linked in similarly are PageRank 3 and although a
> > PageRank of 3 is not all that much, it is better than a kick in the
> > teeth.  :-)

> > On Jun 19, 9:38 am, daavq wrote:

> > > Thanks Roy!  I will do that right away.  I will keep you posted on my
> > > efforts.  Is it okay if I post your reply on my blog?

> > > On Jun 18, 7:57 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > > Dave

> > > > Your main page davehamel.com has not been crawled since May 5.
> > > > I looked at your site map..
> > > > Your main page should have a priority of 1.0 not .5
> > > > Once google crawls your main page again it should see the internal
> > > > link to Yoshi. Chnage the freq to daily for the main page. Add a freq
> > > > for yoshi page of daily and priority of .5
> > > > Go into webmaster tools and resubmit your sitemap.

> > > > Other then that ...WAIT!!

> > > > roysnj [@] comcast.net

> > > > On Jun 18, 6:35 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > > LOL

> > > > > Well Roy,

> > > > > I am not looking for any secrets per se.  What I am wondering is why I
> > > > > don't even show up anymore.  All my coworkers started the contest at
> > > > > the same time, and a friend linked to my page from his blog herehttp://sleepycatpaul.livejournal.com/andheshowsupin the results.
> > > > > So I have definitely done something to anger the SEO Gods.  But for
> > > > > the life of me I can't think of what it is.

> > > > > The whole learning thing becomes moot if I can't figuer out what is a
> > > > > no-no and what is allowed.  And as far as I can tell I am not pushing
> > > > > the boundaries of acceptable linking by any means.

> > > > > I really want to figure out what is going on.

> > > > > On Jun 18, 6:17 pm, roysnj wrote:

> > > > > > Chuckles .

> > > > > > SO tell me Dave .. Why should I give away some deep secrets to you?

> > > > > > On friday google seen your web page. It takes virtually all NEW pages
> > > > > > and places them near the top. Then .. it takes away what it giveths.
> > > > > > You need ..
> > > > > > good quality relevant incoming links.
> > > > > > When google sees more links to you that are relevant, you might start
> > > > > > to reappear.

> > > > > > You are not using any black hat.

> > > > > > WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! and build links

> > > > > > roysnj

> > > > > > On Jun 18, 5:38 pm, daavq wrote:

> > > > > > > The company I work for is holding an SEO contest to learn more and
> > > > > > > share SEO information through the various groups.  So we chose the
> > > > > > > phrase "Yoshirolla Kilomantra" as our search phrase and we all went
> > > > > > > nuts making our pages and trying to scramble for top spot.

> > > > > > > I created a very simple pagehttp://www.davehamel.com/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra/Yoshirolla-Kilomantra.htm
> > > > > > > for my entry and on Friday I was number one on Google.  Today, I am
> > > > > > > nowhere to be found.  My website is verified with webmastertools.  My
> > > > > > > domain shows up if you search for it with "Dave Hamel",but if you
> > > > > > > search for "Yoshirolla Kilomantra Dave Hamel" nothing.

> > > > > > > Any thoughts?  I haven't done anything blackhat that I can think of
> > > > > > > and if I did, wouldn't it ban my entire site?

> > > > > > > Thanks for the help- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> One word, "Supplemental Index"!

> Ok, so that was two words, so sue me!

> What you need to do to get the page out of the supplemental index is
> to throw more inbound links at it.

> I just happened to have one laying around,http://cass-hacks.com/bits_n_bytes/seo_competition/
> so I thought I'd throw it in your direction.

> ...it's the secret method to gain links. All I need to do is pretend
> I'm in an SEO competition where I'll win the respect of my peers and
> so on, and people will link to me!

> They never mention that in the 'how to get links' lists.

> By a strange cooincidence it just so happens my main website is in an
> SEO competition...

> You can't blame me for trying. ;)

> But I did make sure to digg the cass-
> hacks page. Only a few more hundred to go for main page status.

> You think daavq realizes he created a monster?  :-)

> > You think daavq realizes he created a monster?  :-)

> Happily yes.

> For me this is more a learning experience than anything.  I am hoping
> to be able to apply this learning to clients later on, but I think it
> is important to figure out who gets ranked for what.  Everyone in the
> competition will need to provide documentation on how they got the
> rank and it is spaced over 5 engines so the results are a little more
> aggragated and no black hat is allowed.  To also level the playing
> field we said no one can get the "yoshirolla-kilomantra" domain and
> because it is a nonsense phrase, quality content is whatever you make
> it.

> Some people have already started creating videos and stuff like that
> trying a more viral strategy.

> Craig, if you can win this thing, then props to you! You then have the
> right to talk SEO smack to other!

> Running scared eh Dave? Then again so am I...

> I would have s*&( a brick if I dropped from top spot to off the face
> of the earth.

> Best of luck man, I wrote about you on my competition entry:http://yoshirolla.wordpress.com/

> Hi to everyone in the thread, I enjoyed reading all the tips and info.

> The videos I created are in no way meant to be viral, I thought about
> doing a viral campaign with a creative in the office, but decided I
> have too much on the go to execute something good. Someone had tagged
> a few silly videos with yoshirolla kilomantra so I decided that I
> would just take it up a notch.

> Cheers,
> Mike

> On Jun 19, 11:24 am, daavq wrote:

> > > You think daavq realizes he created a monster?  :-)

> > Happily yes.

> > For me this is more a learning experience than anything.  I am hoping
> > to be able to apply this learning to clients later on, but I think it
> > is important to figure out who gets ranked for what.  Everyone in the
> > competition will need to provide documentation on how they got the
> > rank and it is spaced over 5 engines so the results are a little more
> > aggragated and no black hat is allowed.  To also level the playing
> > field we said no one can get the "yoshirolla-kilomantra" domain and
> > because it is a nonsense phrase, quality content is whatever you make
> > it.

> > Some people have already started creating videos and stuff like that
> > trying a more viral strategy.

> > Craig, if you can win this thing, then props to you! You then have the
> > right to talk SEO smack to other!- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> > By a strange cooincidence it just so happens my main website is in an
> > SEO competition...

> Name your URL!  You do realize though that you puts your money down
> and you takes your chances, right?  I just somehow don't have it in me
> to put a link on my site without building relevance for it so you
> might not want my "help".  ;-)

> > But I did make sure to digg the cass-
> > hacks page. Only a few more hundred to go for main page status.

> Cool!  Any forums out there where I can go to whore out my Dugg
> page?  :-()

> I mean besides this one?

> Back off Tighe, this thread is mine!

> LOL!  Seriously though, this has been awesome.  I can't believe this
> is going to continue for another 2 months!

> On Jun 19, 1:52 pm, miketighe.net wrote:

> > Running scared eh Dave? Then again so am I...

> > I would have s*&( a brick if I dropped from top spot to off the face
> > of the earth.

> > Best of luck man, I wrote about you on my competition entry:http://yoshirolla.wordpress.com/

> > Hi to everyone in the thread, I enjoyed reading all the tips and info.

> > The videos I created are in no way meant to be viral, I thought about
> > doing a viral campaign with a creative in the office, but decided I
> > have too much on the go to execute something good. Someone had tagged
> > a few silly videos with yoshirolla kilomantra so I decided that I
> > would just take it up a notch.

> > Cheers,
> > Mike

> > On Jun 19, 11:24 am, daavq wrote:

> > > > You think daavq realizes he created a monster?  :-)

> > > Happily yes.

> > > For me this is more a learning experience than anything.  I am hoping
> > > to be able to apply this learning to clients later on, but I think it
> > > is important to figure out who gets ranked for what.  Everyone in the
> > > competition will need to provide documentation on how they got the
> > > rank and it is spaced over 5 engines so the results are a little more
> > > aggragated and no black hat is allowed.  To also level the playing
> > > field we said no one can get the "yoshirolla-kilomantra" domain and
> > > because it is a nonsense phrase, quality content is whatever you make
> > > it.

> > > Some people have already started creating videos and stuff like that
> > > trying a more viral strategy.

> > > Craig, if you can win this thing, then props to you! You then have the
> > > right to talk SEO smack to other!- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> I just dropped off the rankings entirely... Alas.

> Same thing happened to me. I was #1, and now my page doesn't exist in
> the index:http://www.alias-tv.com/yoshirolla_kilomantra.html

> Any tips?

> Same thing happened to me. I was #1, and now my page doesn't exist in
> the index:http://www.alias-tv.com/yoshirolla_kilomantra.html

> Any tips?

> OK if this page ends up winning the contest I am totally taking credit
> for it.

> I'm in an SEO competition where I'll win the respect of my peers and
> so on, and people will link to me!