I am not liking my rankings in Google for a product I sell and am getting interested in "SEO" now more than ever. Sadly this leads to more questions.
I have been trying various Google datacenter checkers (yes i tried that oy-oy one as well) and none of the results look the same as what I see when I search Google from my location in MA for a paticular "phrase".
How is it that I am getting these special results? Is it because I am logged into my Google account? One could get a little paranoid from a lack of understanding even. Every single datacenter checker is not showing the results I see when I search Google from home, why?
Are datacenter checkers being fed incorrect data, you know...like the toolbar pagerank thingie?
I don't think I can educate you although not due to any lack on your part. But, I can mention some things I've run into in the past and maybe they will make sense to or "strike a chord" with you.
I've seen what you are seeing, totally different results across various data centers although possibly or even probably not for exactly the same reasons.
For what its worth, I think the oy-oy data centers checked are all either in Europe or more specifically, possibly all in Germany. That said, data centers in one "group" or class-C address space don't seem to vary all that much between them although different groups can seem to vary greatly from each other.
What I find more interesting and maybe more useful than "snap shot" views of any given or group of data centers is how they change over a period of time. For example, if you see you have a given number of pages indexed, on average, across a set of DCs with some of them having more, if over time more of the DCs start "catching up" to those that have more listed, your site is on a rise. On the flip side, if you see the number of pages indexed among the DCs start to all drop towards the lower numbers reported initially, things are likely not going too well.
In general, what you are seeing does not seem so far out of the ordinary as things go. But, the obvious question would be, why the fluctuation and sometimes even rapid fluctuation at that.
In the case of pages indexed, it would seem to be related to internal PageRank continually being recalculated. In the case of SERPs results across DCs, I have seen both large swings as well as small swings due to what I can only guess to be PageRank variations but I've never seen them vary as quickly as you seem to be seeing.
Also, the large swings in SERPs position coincided with when I totally wiped out as much of the PageRank as I could of a site I was using for testing PageRank related issues so that would seem somewhat of a special case and not as applicable in your's.
Yeah thanks for that, your info. actually did get me up to speed, there are certain areas I ignore ...until I lose position and can't sell any product! :)
Anyhow...found the datacenter I must be using when I do searches from my house, it ends in .147 and is not like all the others.
> I don't think I can educate you although not due to any lack on your > part. But, I can mention some things I've run into in the past and > maybe they will make sense to or "strike a chord" with you.
> I've seen what you are seeing, totally different results across > various data centers although possibly or even probably not for > exactly the same reasons.
> For what its worth, I think the oy-oy data centers checked are all > either in Europe or more specifically, possibly all in Germany. That > said, data centers in one "group" or class-C address space don't seem > to vary all that much between them although different groups can seem > to vary greatly from each other.
> What I find more interesting and maybe more useful than "snap shot" > views of any given or group of data centers is how they change over a > period of time. For example, if you see you have a given number of > pages indexed, on average, across a set of DCs with some of them > having more, if over time more of the DCs start "catching up" to those > that have more listed, your site is on a rise. On the flip side, if > you see the number of pages indexed among the DCs start to all drop > towards the lower numbers reported initially, things are likely not > going too well.
> In general, what you are seeing does not seem so far out of the > ordinary as things go. But, the obvious question would be, why the > fluctuation and sometimes even rapid fluctuation at that.
> In the case of pages indexed, it would seem to be related to internal > PageRank continually being recalculated. In the case of SERPs results > across DCs, I have seen both large swings as well as small swings due > to what I can only guess to be PageRank variations but I've never seen > them vary as quickly as you seem to be seeing.
> Also, the large swings in SERPs position coincided with when I totally > wiped out as much of the PageRank as I could of a site I was using for > testing PageRank related issues so that would seem somewhat of a > special case and not as applicable in your's.
Are you interested in http://www.seobuzzbox.com or some other site? You really shoudl learn some SEO. My opinion - The data centers are constantly changing.
> I am not liking my rankings in Google for a product I sell and am > getting interested in "SEO" now more than ever. Sadly this leads to > more questions.
> I have been trying various Google datacenter checkers (yes i tried > that oy-oy one as well) and none of the results look the same as what > I see when I search Google from my location in MA for a paticular > "phrase".
> How is it that I am getting these special results? Is it because I am > logged into my Google account? One could get a little paranoid from a > lack of understanding even. Every single datacenter checker is not > showing the results I see when I search Google from home, why?
> Are datacenter checkers being fed incorrect data, you know...like the > toolbar pagerank thingie?
> Are you interested inhttp://www.seobuzzbox.comor some other site? > You really shoudl learn some SEO. > My opinion - The data centers are constantly changing.
> On Sep 18, 11:14 pm, Admin Aaron wrote:
> > I am not liking my rankings in Google for a product I sell and am > > getting interested in "SEO" now more than ever. Sadly this leads to > > more questions.
> > I have been trying various Google datacenter checkers (yes i tried > > that oy-oy one as well) and none of the results look the same as what > > I see when I search Google from my location in MA for a paticular > > "phrase".
> > How is it that I am getting these special results? Is it because I am > > logged into my Google account? One could get a little paranoid from a > > lack of understanding even. Every single datacenter checker is not > > showing the results I see when I search Google from home, why?
> > Are datacenter checkers being fed incorrect data, you know...like the > > toolbar pagerank thingie?
Aaron and I are somewhat similar, we ask a lot of questions trying to find answers, we just have different methods of what and who we ask and so learn different aspects.
Aaron however, is much more prolific and diverse in the questions he asks. ;-)
But, no matter how much either of us know or learn, it will NEVER be enough. :-()
> Aaron and I are somewhat similar, we ask a lot of questions trying to > find answers, we just have different methods of what and who we ask > and so learn different aspects.
> Aaron however, is much more prolific and diverse in the questions he > asks. ;-)
> But, no matter how much either of us know or learn, it will NEVER be > enough. :-()
Oh yes, Google really does do a good job ranking sites, don't they?! I'd like to see some of the google lovers explain that with a "all seo sites lost their relevance and Altavista all of a sudden gained a lot of relevance and this is all just fine and dandy and exactly how it should be". Bullocks. Google makes mistakes. They just don't publicly own up to them very often.... kind of hard to miss this one though.
> > Aaron and I are somewhat similar, we ask a lot of questions trying to > > find answers, we just have different methods of what and who we ask > > and so learn different aspects.
> > Aaron however, is much more prolific and diverse in the questions he > > asks. ;-)
> > But, no matter how much either of us know or learn, it will NEVER be > > enough. :-()
I hate to admit it but Wikipedia jumped to the top of the SERPS after Matt Cutts convinced them to use the nofollow, I expect them to be replacing my product in the near future for it's keyword.
> Oh yes, Google really does do a good job ranking sites, don't they?! > I'd like to see some of the google lovers explain that with a "all seo > sites lost their relevance and Altavista all of a sudden gained a lot > of relevance and this is all just fine and dandy and exactly how it > should be". Bullocks. Google makes mistakes. They just don't publicly > own up to them very often.... kind of hard to miss this one though.
> > > Aaron and I are somewhat similar, we ask a lot of questions trying to > > > find answers, we just have different methods of what and who we ask > > > and so learn different aspects.
> > > Aaron however, is much more prolific and diverse in the questions he > > > asks. ;-)
> > > But, no matter how much either of us know or learn, it will NEVER be > > > enough. :-()
> I hate to admit it but Wikipedia jumped to the top of the SERPS after > Matt Cutts convinced them to use the nofollow, I expect them to be > replacing my product in the near future for it's keyword.
> See, I can be bitter also!!! :-)
> On Sep 19, 2:48 pm, Sam I Am wrote:
> > Apparently, according to Google, Altavista is now a top 20 result for > > the search term "SEO" :)http://www.google.com/search?q=SEO
> > Oh yes, Google really does do a good job ranking sites, don't they?! > > I'd like to see some of the google lovers explain that with a "all seo > > sites lost their relevance and Altavista all of a sudden gained a lot > > of relevance and this is all just fine and dandy and exactly how it > > should be". Bullocks. Google makes mistakes. They just don't publicly > > own up to them very often.... kind of hard to miss this one though.
> > > > Aaron and I are somewhat similar, we ask a lot of questions trying to > > > > find answers, we just have different methods of what and who we ask > > > > and so learn different aspects.
> > > > Aaron however, is much more prolific and diverse in the questions he > > > > asks. ;-)
> > > > But, no matter how much either of us know or learn, it will NEVER be > > > > enough. :-()
