Hello,
I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
something might be wrong.
Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
my site.
What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
duplicate content. SHOCKER!
Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
discuss?
2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
like the right fix?
3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
content?"
4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
like duplicate content?
> Do you mean that you have 1 site, but more than 1 DN?
I have one site, www.gbizbuilders.com with content.
I have other Domain Names from the hosting provider, which are
unrelated, but which the provider pointed to my main (and only) site.
These Domain Names should never have been pointed to my gbizbuilders
site, but they were. And now and they show as related links, seeming
like exactly the pages of my gbizbuilders site.
> > Do you mean that you have 1 site, but more than 1 DN?
> I have one site,www.gbizbuilders.comwith content.
> I have other Domain Names from the hosting provider, which are
> unrelated, but which the provider pointed to my main (and only) site.
> These Domain Names should never have been pointed to my gbizbuilders
> site, but they were. And now and they show as related links, seeming
> like exactly the pages of my gbizbuilders site.
> Hello,
> I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
> link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
> been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
> more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
> something might be wrong.
> Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
> over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
> discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
> my site.
> What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
> domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
> main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
> spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
> from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
> duplicate content. SHOCKER!
> Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
> So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
> 1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
> condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
> discuss?
> 2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> like the right fix?
> 3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> content?"
> 4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> like duplicate content?
Hello,
I was told they were redirects. However, in looking at the "Pages
with External Links" it seems to show files placed under those
domains. How, I don't know since I always used the exact IP address
for my www.gbizbuilders.com site when uploading via FTP.
Early this morning, though, I asked that all those "Pointing" sites be
PARKED. And, they have been.
So,
Assuming the unwanted domains were somehow erroneously uploaded, it
looks like I probably have a duplicate content issue. Therefore, my
questions remain:
1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
like the right fix?
2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
content?"
3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
like duplicate content?
> When you say that the other sites "pointed" to your main site, were
> they redirects or was your content for your main site loading under
> those domains?
> On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
> > link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
> > been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
> > more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
> > something might be wrong.
> > Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
> > over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
> > discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
> > my site.
> > What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
> > domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
> > main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
> > spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
> > from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
> > duplicate content. SHOCKER!
> > Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
> > So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
> > 1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
> > condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
> > discuss?
> > 2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > like the right fix?
> > 3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > content?"
> > 4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > like duplicate content?
> Hello,
> I was told they were redirects. However, in looking at the "Pages
> with External Links" it seems to show files placed under those
> domains. How, I don't know since I always used the exact IP address
> for mywww.gbizbuilders.comsite when uploading via FTP.
> Early this morning, though, I asked that all those "Pointing" sites be
> PARKED. And, they have been.
> So,
> Assuming the unwanted domains were somehow erroneously uploaded, it
> looks like I probably have a duplicate content issue. Therefore, my
> questions remain:
> 1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> like the right fix?
> 2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> content?"
> 3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> like duplicate content?
> Thank you,
> Carl
> On Apr 26, 3:12 pm, k0rt wrote:
> > When you say that the other sites "pointed" to your main site, were
> > they redirects or was your content for your main site loading under
> > those domains?
> > On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
> > > link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
> > > been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
> > > more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
> > > something might be wrong.
> > > Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
> > > over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
> > > discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
> > > my site.
> > > What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
> > > domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
> > > main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
> > > spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
> > > from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
> > > duplicate content. SHOCKER!
> > > Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
> > > So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
> > > 1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
> > > condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
> > > discuss?
> > > 2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > > like the right fix?
> > > 3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > > content?"
> > > 4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > > like duplicate content?
webado,
Can you take a shot at answering these items..
1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
like the right fix?
2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
content?"
3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
like duplicate content?
Thanks
> Those other domains are all just imply parked at the registrar.
> Thats' why the individual urls you listed do nto exist adn return a
> 404.
> Maybe those domains were pointed to the same hosting for a short
> while and got indexed that way, but now they are no longer pointed
> there.
> On Apr 26, 4:35 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I was told they were redirects. However, in looking at the "Pages
> > with External Links" it seems to show files placed under those
> > domains. How, I don't know since I always used the exact IP address
> > for mywww.gbizbuilders.comsitewhen uploading via FTP.
> > Early this morning, though, I asked that all those "Pointing" sites be
> > PARKED. And, they have been.
> > So,
> > Assuming the unwanted domains were somehow erroneously uploaded, it
> > looks like I probably have a duplicate content issue. Therefore, my
> > questions remain:
> > 1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > like the right fix?
> > 2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > content?"
> > 3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > like duplicate content?
> > Thank you,
> > Carl
> > On Apr 26, 3:12 pm, k0rt wrote:
> > > When you say that the other sites "pointed" to your main site, were
> > > they redirects or was your content for your main site loading under
> > > those domains?
> > > On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
> > > > link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
> > > > been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
> > > > more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
> > > > something might be wrong.
> > > > Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
> > > > over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
> > > > discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
> > > > my site.
> > > > What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
> > > > domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
> > > > main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
> > > > spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
> > > > from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
> > > > duplicate content. SHOCKER!
> > > > Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
> > > > So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
> > > > 1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
> > > > condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
> > > > discuss?
> > > > 2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > > > like the right fix?
> > > > 3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > > > content?"
> > > > 4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > > > like duplicate content?
1) Parking sounds like the right choice to me. Assuming the googlebot
is able to recognize a parked domain, that will allow it to clear the
cache of the site and still leave the option open for easy indexing in
the future.
2) A trick I've used before is to take a unique string from the
website text and search for it in quotes in google. The original in
google's eyes will be the result that shows up, the others will be
"collapsed" into the similar results link. You can refer to this that
I've used from a previous job to see:
3) By following the same good procedures that got you indexed in the
first place. Once you pull the duplicate content offline and google
clears it from the index, then when you start adding new unique
content, it should recognize you as the original publisher and restore
your ranking.
These are educated guesses, but they make sense to me based on what
I've learned and assumed about the way the googlebot works. Feel free
to point out any logic errors though.
> webado,
> Can you take a shot at answering these items..
> 1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> like the right fix?
> 2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> content?"
> 3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> like duplicate content?
> Thanks
> On Apr 26, 3:48 pm, webado wrote:
> > Those other domains are all just imply parked at the registrar.
> > Thats' why the individual urls you listed do nto exist adn return a
> > 404.
> > Maybe those domains were pointed to the same hosting for a short
> > while and got indexed that way, but now they are no longer pointed
> > there.
> > On Apr 26, 4:35 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I was told they were redirects. However, in looking at the "Pages
> > > with External Links" it seems to show files placed under those
> > > domains. How, I don't know since I always used the exact IP address
> > > for mywww.gbizbuilders.comsitewhenuploading via FTP.
> > > Early this morning, though, I asked that all those "Pointing" sites be
> > > PARKED. And, they have been.
> > > So,
> > > Assuming the unwanted domains were somehow erroneously uploaded, it
> > > looks like I probably have a duplicate content issue. Therefore, my
> > > questions remain:
> > > 1. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > > like the right fix?
> > > 2. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > > content?"
> > > 3. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > > like duplicate content?
> > > Thank you,
> > > Carl
> > > On Apr 26, 3:12 pm, k0rt wrote:
> > > > When you say that the other sites "pointed" to your main site, were
> > > > they redirects or was your content for your main site loading under
> > > > those domains?
> > > > On Apr 26, 3:05 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I have been undertaking a lot of offsite SEO content development and
> > > > > link building. I noticed in Webmaster Tools that my site, had last
> > > > > been crawled April 10, 2008. I believed it should have been crawled
> > > > > more recently and so took that date (over 15 days ago) as a signal
> > > > > something might be wrong.
> > > > > Thinking something was wrong with my site not having been crawled in
> > > > > over 2 weeks, I researched in Webmaster Tools. Here's the shocking
> > > > > discovery I found, that probably had a "duplicate content" impact on
> > > > > my site.
> > > > > What I found was this: under the "Pages with External Links" Other
> > > > > domains that I had from the same hosting company were pointing to my
> > > > > main site. And, by pointing at this site, since apparently the Google
> > > > > spiders don't distinguish from separate IP addresses (the IP address
> > > > > from the pointing sites had no content), it probably looked like
> > > > > duplicate content. SHOCKER!
> > > > > Here are my questions, can someone lend their knowledge:
> > > > > So, if my description was clear enough or made sense:
> > > > > 1. I believe that this might have created a "duplicate content"
> > > > > condition and caused the spiders to ignore my main site. Can someone
> > > > > discuss?
> > > > > 2. I have now parked those other pointing domains. Does this sound
> > > > > like the right fix?
> > > > > 3. How do you tell if your site is listed or is ignored as "duplicate
> > > > > content?"
> > > > > 4. How do I get my site "crawled" and indexed again if it did look
> > > > > like duplicate content?
If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
server.
If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
(park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
site/content.
So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.
They are registrar parked or at least not parked on top of the main
domain.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_... shows this domain had been aprked on top of the main domain as of
April 15. This is no longer the case today.
It will get cleared as the robot tries to recrawl those urls and find
they don't exist or the content has changed. This should be happening
soon - matter of a few more days.
> If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
> server.
> If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
> (park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
> Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
> site/content.
> So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.
webada and Autocrat, your statements conflict. Webado seems think I
resolved it by parking the domains (again, to clarify, the domains
have and never should have had any association with my main www.gbizbuilders.com site.) The pesky domains (registrygift*.*) should have no content,
and at this point, I'd like to blast them out of existence. Autocrat
seems to think I could still be at risk for duplicate content.
Can we drill into those opposing points of view to clear it up and get
to the final answer?
Thanks again everyone for the open and supportive exchange about these
issues. As I may have already said, I have written a lot of articles,
started a blog (which has already been indexed in 1 day), started an
RSS feed, subscribed to the RSS feed with Google reader, submitted to
directories (DMOZ for example), etc.....trying to get good links to
my site. And, my results are possibly being nullified by the
duplicate files on the registrygift*.* domains (real or imagined files
on those domains, I can't decide which, nor does it necessarily
matter). All this effort and my main site has not been crawled since
April 10, 2008 according to the Google webmaster info.
Please continue to discuss further...
Thank you!
Loopster
> They are registrar parked or at least not parked on top of the main
> domain.
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_...
> shows this domain had been aprked on top of the main domain as of
> April 15. This is no longer the case today.
> It will get cleared as the robot tries to recrawl those urls and find
> they don't exist or the content has changed. This should be happening
> soon - matter of a few more days.
> On Apr 26, 7:09 pm, Autocrat wrote:
> > If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
> > server.
> > If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
> > (park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
> > Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
> > site/content.
> > So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.
I said today those other domains are registrar parked, not parked on
your hosting account where you have the active domain.
They have no content other than the useless registrar parked page.
They were however once (as recent as April 15) parked on top of your
regular domain, which is why they got indexed that way. But those
pages now produce a 404.
> webada and Autocrat, your statements conflict. Webado seems think I
> resolved it by parking the domains (again, to clarify, the domains
> have and never should have had any association with my mainwww.gbizbuilders.com > site.) The pesky domains (registrygift*.*) should have no content,
> and at this point, I'd like to blast them out of existence. Autocrat
> seems to think I could still be at risk for duplicate content.
> Can we drill into those opposing points of view to clear it up and get
> to the final answer?
> Thanks again everyone for the open and supportive exchange about these
> issues. As I may have already said, I have written a lot of articles,
> started a blog (which has already been indexed in 1 day), started an
> RSS feed, subscribed to the RSS feed with Google reader, submitted to
> directories (DMOZ for example), etc.....trying to get good links to
> my site. And, my results are possibly being nullified by the
> duplicate files on the registrygift*.* domains (real or imagined files
> on those domains, I can't decide which, nor does it necessarily
> matter). All this effort and my main site has not been crawled since
> April 10, 2008 according to the Google webmaster info.
> > They are registrar parked or at least not parked on top of the main
> > domain.
> >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_...
> > shows this domain had been aprked on top of the main domain as of
> > April 15. This is no longer the case today.
> > It will get cleared as the robot tries to recrawl those urls and find
> > they don't exist or the content has changed. This should be happening
> > soon - matter of a few more days.
> > On Apr 26, 7:09 pm, Autocrat wrote:
> > > If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
> > > server.
> > > If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
> > > (park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
> > > Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
> > > site/content.
> > > So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.- Hide quoted text -
> webada and Autocrat, your statements conflict. Webado seems think I
> resolved it by parking the domains (again, to clarify, the domains
> have and never should have had any association with my mainwww.gbizbuilders.com > site.) The pesky domains (registrygift*.*) should have no content,
> and at this point, I'd like to blast them out of existence. Autocrat
> seems to think I could still be at risk for duplicate content.
> Can we drill into those opposing points of view to clear it up and get
> to the final answer?
> Thanks again everyone for the open and supportive exchange about these
> issues. As I may have already said, I have written a lot of articles,
> started a blog (which has already been indexed in 1 day), started an
> RSS feed, subscribed to the RSS feed with Google reader, submitted to
> directories (DMOZ for example), etc.....trying to get good links to
> my site. And, my results are possibly being nullified by the
> duplicate files on the registrygift*.* domains (real or imagined files
> on those domains, I can't decide which, nor does it necessarily
> matter). All this effort and my main site has not been crawled since
> April 10, 2008 according to the Google webmaster info.
> > They are registrar parked or at least not parked on top of the main
> > domain.
> >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_...
> > shows this domain had been aprked on top of the main domain as of
> > April 15. This is no longer the case today.
> > It will get cleared as the robot tries to recrawl those urls and find
> > they don't exist or the content has changed. This should be happening
> > soon - matter of a few more days.
> > On Apr 26, 7:09 pm, Autocrat wrote:
> > > If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
> > > server.
> > > If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
> > > (park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
> > > Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
> > > site/content.
> > > So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.- Hide quoted text -
About your comment:
"They were however once (as recent as April 15) parked on top of your
regular domain, which is why they got indexed that way. But those
pages now produce a 404. "
How could you tell those other domains were parked "on top of" the
regular domain?
Do you think all should be good now?
> It must be closed with > and not with /> because you are nto using an
> xhtml doctype.
> On Apr 26, 10:06 pm, Loopster wrote:
> > Thanks all for the conversation...
> > webada and Autocrat, your statements conflict. Webado seems think I
> > resolved it by parking the domains (again, to clarify, the domains
> > have and never should have had any association with my mainwww.gbizbuilders.com > > site.) The pesky domains (registrygift*.*) should have no content,
> > and at this point, I'd like to blast them out of existence. Autocrat
> > seems to think I could still be at risk for duplicate content.
> > Can we drill into those opposing points of view to clear it up and get
> > to the final answer?
> > Thanks again everyone for the open and supportive exchange about these
> > issues. As I may have already said, I have written a lot of articles,
> > started a blog (which has already been indexed in 1 day), started an
> > RSS feed, subscribed to the RSS feed with Google reader, submitted to
> > directories (DMOZ for example), etc.....trying to get good links to
> > my site. And, my results are possibly being nullified by the
> > duplicate files on the registrygift*.* domains (real or imagined files
> > on those domains, I can't decide which, nor does it necessarily
> > matter). All this effort and my main site has not been crawled since
> > April 10, 2008 according to the Google webmaster info.
> > > They are registrar parked or at least not parked on top of the main
> > > domain.
> > >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_...
> > > shows this domain had been aprked on top of the main domain as of
> > > April 15. This is no longer the case today.
> > > It will get cleared as the robot tries to recrawl those urls and find
> > > they don't exist or the content has changed. This should be happening
> > > soon - matter of a few more days.
> > > On Apr 26, 7:09 pm, Autocrat wrote:
> > > > If you want those URLs/Domain Names to be used, use a Redirect on the
> > > > server.
> > > > If you don't want them used, do not put them on that hosting account
> > > > (park/alias whatever your setup calls it).
> > > > Parking means that the domains can be seen as being attached to your
> > > > site/content.
> > > > So, chances are that it could results in a possible duplicate penalty.- Hide quoted text -
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