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hjenkins42  
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 More options Nov 28 2007, 2:02 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:02:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 2:02 am
Subject: No external links and PR
About a month ago my PR dropped from 5 to 0. I meticulously checked
all aspects and made changes to my site (sendmoneyhome.org) against
Google's guidelines to see why this may be the case but to no avail.
In addition, in Webmaster Tools it is still indicating that my site
has no external links. However, I have genuine not paid for links from
the British, Dutch, French, US governments the UN the World Bank,
IFAD, countless migrant Diaspora organisations and UK based
Embassies... The list goes on. I have never paid for a link or
employed an SEO/SEP company and have achieved great SERP rankings by
developing the site by myself and organically over the past three
years. Can anyone shed some light as to why I have been punished?

Many thanks
Huw


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gt  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 28 2007, 2:24 am
From: gt
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:24:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 2:24 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
Your head area of the page(s) is a bit of a mess and needs sorting
Huw:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sendmoneyhome.org%...
meta tag errors abound....

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 More options Nov 28 2007, 4:08 am
From: JLH
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:08:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 4:08 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
Meta tag errors or w3 have nothing to do with PageRank.

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hjenkins42  
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 More options Nov 28 2007, 5:11 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:11:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 5:11 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
Thank you for your help, I am looking into tidying it up.

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 More options Nov 28 2007, 5:34 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:34:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 5:34 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
I agree but it was a useful suggestion for me. However, still no
closer to understanding what Google sees that is wrong with my site to
erradicate my page rank...

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Nov 28 2007, 5:43 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:43:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 5:43 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR

> About a month ago my PR dropped from 5 to 0. I meticulously checked
> all aspects and made changes to my site (sendmoneyhome.org) against
> Google's guidelines to see why this may be the case but to no avail.

http://sendmoneyhome.org gives a 404 error for no virtual server.  It
should be a 301 to http://www.sendmoneyhome.org

This is a recent change, because there's a cached thumbnail of the non-
www address online.


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 More options Nov 28 2007, 6:01 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:01:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:01 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
sendmoneyhome.org a forwarding address to www.sendmoneyhome.org. This
was created because an error I made in WM tools telling it that
snedmoneyhome.org was my preferred domain. I corrected this in WM
tools and cancelled the forwarding once www.sendmoneyhome.org showed
up again in the rankings after I corrected the problem in WM tools

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(2 users)  More options Nov 28 2007, 6:06 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:06:52 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:06 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR

> About a month ago my PR dropped from 5 to 0. I meticulously checked
> all aspects and made changes to my site (sendmoneyhome.org) against
> Google's guidelines to see why this may be the case but to no avail.

Another exercise in pulling teeth.  I wish people would be honest when
they post here and not try to deceive us as well as Google.

It is, of course, as we're becoming accustomed to after last weekend,
another domain farm.

The umbrella this time is Profile Media Group with about 16 domains.
Among them is, e.g., Profile Business Intelligence at http://www.pbintel.com
which has a link on its home page (look towards the bottom of
http://www.pbintel.com/contents/smh.html as well) to http://www.sendmoneyhome.org/


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(1 user)  More options Nov 28 2007, 6:24 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:24:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:24 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR

> My company is Profile Business Intelligence Ltd (www.pbintel.com) who
> own, created and managewww.sendmoneyhome.orgis it wrong to link from
> one of your own sites to another when that site is a part of what we
> do as a business.

Yes, if the purpose of that link is to artificially increase the
apparent number of inbound links.  A lot of people do this, sometimes
using hundreds of sites.  It would appear, from the many posts from
multi-domain operations over the last two days, that Google has
started to crack down.

You can resent what you like - bots don't care about resentment.  They
just data mine and collate.


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 More options Nov 28 2007, 6:27 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:27 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
Fair point, but I still think it ridiculous that I cannot as a
business promote one of my own sites as work my company is
undertaking...

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 More options Nov 28 2007, 6:37 am
From: hjenkins42
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:37:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:37 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR
Against my better judgement, I have removed the links from www.pbintel.com
on your advice. As I mentioned earlier in my post, I have never paid
for a link and have built up very relationships with austere
organisations and have got where I am through organic (and not
deceitful) methods.

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(1 user)  More options Nov 28 2007, 6:41 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:41:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 28 2007 6:41 am
Subject: Re: No external links and PR

> Fair point, but I still think it ridiculous that I cannot as a
> business promote one of my own sites as work my company is
> undertaking...

How many businesses is IBM in, and how many sites do you see?

Most marketing people try to build recognition for one corporate
brand, not hide their operations under a multiplicity of names.


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