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againstcensorship  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 7:08 pm
From: againstcensorship
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:08:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 7:08 pm
Subject: atlasshrugs.com
DId google censor atlasshrugs.com content?  I get no hits of articles
on this site.

 
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Sasch  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 7:39 pm
From: Sasch
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:39:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
<Quote>

-->>

I have had to hire a separate security/consulting firm to get me back
online. It is costly.  I need your help. Anything you could contribute
to help offset the cost - it's a lot of hours would be greatly
appreciated.

<<--

</Quote>

Googlenoia strikes again... or is it a case of plugging for
contributions to fuel the cause**?

For myself... I used to rank for "Sasch", but now I don't anymore!!!!

Could the fact that there's a major recording artist going by the name
of 'Sasch' have anything to do with it; or perhaps the growing number
of people launching sasch.tld domains?

No!! I DON'T THINK SO!!!!

Google obviously has it in for me. I'm being censored at every step!!
Google hates me and WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO SHOW at the top of any
'Sasch' related query. So it's obviously an evil conspiracy, carried
out by the 14 foot tall aliens who really rule the world.

Ah-hem... sorry... lost it there for a sec...

Seriously now, speaking as someone who's kept an eye on SE
developments for a while now, I'd have to refer you to the following
article:

http://www.sitepronews.com/archives/2007/feb/28.html

Although it may have been written about competitors sabotaging sites,
it's message [over 18 months later] nevertheless holds true; if a site
gets dumped out of the rankings, there's usually a good reason.
Unmarked black helicopters and 14 foot aliens rarely feature with
Google's algorithms...

**or perhaps the pocketbook? ;-)

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Sasch  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 7:43 pm
From: Sasch
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:43:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Actually... just to be fair...

I still rank 8th for 'Sasch', with a post in this very group, from
where I'm standing.

By the same token, when I Google 'Pamela Geller' I get you first.

Censorship? I think not. ;-)


 
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Sasch  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 7:51 pm
From: Sasch
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:51:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Errr...

<Quote>

"The Jew may be the canary in the coal mine, but you my friends will
be next."

</Quote>

Just what exactly are you trying to say?

<Quote>

Citizen Journalist Citizen Soldier

</Quote>

Somehow I cannot help but feel I've heard this or something like it
somewhere before...

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 More options Nov 26 2008, 9:08 pm
From: seo101
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:08:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

> DId google censor atlasshrugs.com content?  I get no hits of articles
> on this site.

You need to take off your tinfoil hat and stop being paranoid

 
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Craig Payne  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 9:13 pm
From: Craig Payne
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:13:44 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

On Nov 27, 11:08 am, againstcensorship wrote:

> DId google censor atlasshrugs.com content?  I get no hits of articles
> on this site.

I had a look at your site and your google rant. You have no idea what
you are talking about. Ypou have no idea how search engines crawl,
index and rank pages.

How long do you think it will be before Google bans you from Adsense?
and it won't be for your paranoid reasons, it will be for deliberatly
and blatantly breaking the agreement you agreed to when you joined
adsense. It will be interesting to see the spin you put on this when
it happens.


 
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Phil Payne  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 9:22 pm
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:22:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

againstcensorship wrote:
> DId google censor atlasshrugs.com content?  I get no hits of articles
> on this site.

Evidently not - 8,900 pages:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fatlasshrug...

Google screws up again.


 
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Sasch  
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 More options Nov 27 2008, 11:25 am
From: Sasch
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:25:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 27 2008 11:25 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

> I had a look at your site and your google rant. You have no idea what
> you are talking about. Ypou have no idea how search engines crawl,
> index and rank pages.

Nope... It's a damn good means of wheedling a couple of bucks out of
fellow tinfoil hat wearers. :-Þ

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 More options Nov 28 2008, 10:21 am
From: metronome
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:21:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:21 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Oh, my site just dropped in rank. Can I get some financial support,
and an anti-censorship movement too?

This is just as cracked as the story which she was complaining about
losing rank.


 
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againstcensorship  
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 More options Nov 28 2008, 10:21 am
From: againstcensorship
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:21:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:21 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
You miss the point big guy.  You directly keyed in the site.

If a user knew exactly what site they wanted to go to they wouldn't
need google now would they?

The point is that when searching general search terms without regard
to site, atlasshrugs used to come up high on many terms.  Now it does
not come up at all.  That indexing has been altered intentionally.

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 More options Nov 28 2008, 10:55 am
From: BBdeath
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:55:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:55 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

> That indexing has been altered intentionally.

Totally agreed. Google intentionally hates link exchnage, link
schemes, and intentionally devaluates it as it's against the quality
guidelines.
http://www.linktopia.org/index.php?profile&slid=16482

Beside this your domain is 302-redirected to the typad blog instead of
301-permanently moved redirect, so that the value from some natural
links could genrate some benefit for the typepad subdomain you use.

So it's up to you to decide whether you need help regarding to ranking
of your site, or continue building more theories why Google filters
out your content.

I understand that the choice is not easy as the "I was spamming
Google, so I've lost some ranking" headline is much less exciting that
your current theory.

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Nov 28 2008, 11:21 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:21:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 28 2008 11:21 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

againstcensorship wrote:
> You miss the point big guy.  You directly keyed in the site.

You didn't give a set of target keywords - you just said the site
didn't come up. Well, it does.

Keywords?


 
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Matt Cutts Google employee  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 2:49 pm
From: Matt Cutts
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:49:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Hi, we looked into this, and the blog in question was ranking lower in
our search results because of an algorithmic error that has now been
fixed; the site's drop in our search results had nothing to do with
the views expressed on the site. Essentially, our search algorithm saw
a large area on the blog that was due to an IFRAME included from
another site and that looked spammy to our automatic classifier. I
believe that this bug has been fixed now. We also added additional
safety checks to the relevant system that would escalate to an
engineer if this site had the same issue in the future.

The site should be ranking higher in Google within 24 hours according
to the people that I talked to. Thanks for mentioning the site on this
discussion group to give us feedback--I appreciate it.
Matt Cutts
Google Software Engineer

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jevstar  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 3:05 pm
From: jevstar
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:05:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Wow! It is Christmas - Talk about being visited by Angels!

JV

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 More options Dec 1 2008, 5:53 pm
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:53:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Very good of you to show such an interest.

Hopefully the OP will realise this also :)

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SRobert  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 6:54 pm
From: SRobert
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
It is great you fixed his site but what about the other 1000's of
webmasters affected by the same bug?
Spammers go out inject iframes to gain links or whatever. Damaging
innocent webmasters sites and the innocent gets punished by google,
being delisted or loosing rankings. Even webmasters which did not get
hacked are being penalized for having iframes. Google suggests using
webmastertools, great right. Did it tell you your problem? NO of
course not. Now your guessing why did I get delisted, I didn't do
anything intentionally wrong. To find out it was not even your fault
it was a BUG.

I understand your concerns for the users, but if you care about users
then you wont remove sites which users enjoyed visiting. If you have a
iframe with a nofollow code, wouldn't that mean it was not used as a
injection and it is a legit iframe???

So Matt help out the other thousands of webmasters with the same
issues please.


 
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Matt Cutts Google employee  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 10:11 pm
From: Matt Cutts
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:11:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
SRobert, we adjusted the algorithm in question to make more robust, so
the change also benefits any other sites there were affected.
Matt

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Tim Abracadabra  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 10:41 pm
From: Tim Abracadabra
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:41:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com

> > It is great you fixed his site but what about the other 1000's of
> > webmasters affected by the same bug?
> SRobert, we adjusted the algorithm in question to make more robust, so
> the change also benefits any other sites there were affected.
> Matt

Thanks Matt for the clarification!

(Actually, That's what I thought you said the first time ;-))

All the best!

Abracadabra
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SRobert  
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 More options Dec 2 2008, 1:24 am
From: SRobert
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:24:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 1:24 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
Thanks Matt

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 More options Dec 3 2008, 11:21 am
From: allinone
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:21:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 11:21 am
Subject: Re: atlasshrugs.com
On the subject of iframes.  If you have a long standing position with
Google then you add in an iframe on the main pages and several other
pages will this effect the ranking of that page by just adding the
iframe.

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