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Chris Gunn  
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 More options Sep 15 2007, 11:37 am
From: Chris Gunn
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:37:46 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 15 2007 11:37 am
Subject: Sitemap errors and warnings
Howdy Folks,

Google has found a new way to confuse things and demonstrate their
data processing problems.  This has been going on for several months
now.

I'm getting the following error message at erratic times:

URLs not followed
When we tested a sample of the URLs from your Sitemap, we found that
some URLs were not accessible to Googlebot because they contained too
many redirects. Please change the URLs in your Sitemap that redirect
and replace them with the destination URL (the redirect target). All
valid URLs will still be submitted.

It sometimes cites a URL that is not in the site map and the page is a
single "Refresh" redirect.  All of the others it fusses about are a
single ASP redirect.

Resubmitting the SiteMap.txt file seems to clear the errors and then
within a week they crop up on other sites I monitor.

Thanks, Chris


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cass-hacks  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 16 2007, 3:02 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:02:14 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2007 3:02 am
Subject: Re: Sitemap errors and warnings
If your sitemap or any navigation links on your site constantly
require the use of redirects, you will keep getting that error.

Redirects should not be part of normal navigation as it is a waste of
resources on both ends, client and server.

In the past, Google didn't check redirects, now it does.

So, not data processing problems, maybe website management
problems?  ;-)

Craig

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webado  
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 More options Sep 16 2007, 9:48 am
From: webado
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:48:15 -0000
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2007 9:48 am
Subject: Re: Sitemap errors and warnings
Well it seems to me this has been said so many times it must be
falling on deaf ears.

Run Xenu - if you find even one redirection past the entry point to
the site where you may have one single 302 (that's when the site's
actual homepage and rest of contents are installed in a folder as
happens unfortunately by default with some canned software like CMS, e-
commerce, etc) , then you must fix all your navigation so it will not
require any redirections at all at any point. And all this is in
addition to being fully consistent in your navigation as far as which
canonical domain form you are using.

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Chris Gunn  
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 More options Sep 16 2007, 11:30 am
From: Chris Gunn
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:30:29 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2007 11:30 am
Subject: Re: Sitemap errors and warnings
On Sep 16, 1:02 am, cass-hacks wrote:

> If your sitemap or any navigation links on your site constantly
> require the use of redirects, you will keep getting that error.

> Redirects should not be part of normal navigation as it is a waste of
> resources on both ends, client and server.

Howdy,

I fully agree!  However, when a home page must be assembled
dynamically by server side software, a redirect is appropriate.  It's
also very handy when an old page needs to send people to a newer page.

The error I was fussing about states "contained too many redirects."
and it should have no problem with a single one which is all that
exists.  Google's scripts are stuttering and handling a single
redirect as multiples or is getting totally confused with data
corruption.

Google's search engine software is screaming fast and performs great.
Their support scripts, like the Googlebot are a disaster.  The
difference is the search engine runs as compiled software and the
scripts run as CGI with very poor memory isolation.

Chris


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Chris Gunn  
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 More options Sep 16 2007, 11:53 am
From: Chris Gunn
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:53:04 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2007 11:53 am
Subject: Re: Sitemap errors and warnings
On Sep 16, 7:48 am, webado wrote:

> Run Xenu - if you find even one redirection past the entry point to
> the site where you may have one single 302 (that's when the site's
> actual homepage and rest of contents are installed in a folder as

Howdy Webado,

I read just fine.  I've told you before, this Xenu was written back in
the very old days with nothing but static web pages.  Trying to use it
on dynamic sites that track people through a site without cookies is
conducting an intentional "criminal" level attack on the site.

The old Xenu does not scan a web site the way the robots do.  Xenu
repeatedly goes back to the home page URL for the next link instead of
collecting all of the available links and using that list to move to
the next level.  It DOES NOT work the way the Googlebot does.

Xenu was okay years ago as a quicky hobby script but recommending it
today is unethical and abusive.  Please get somebody to recode it or
find more appropriate software to recommend.  There are also
apparently various versions of Xenu by different groups of authors.
You might find a better version.

Thanks, Chris


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webado  
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 More options Sep 16 2007, 12:36 pm
From: webado
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:36:33 -0000
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2007 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Sitemap errors and warnings
Rubbish, Chris. Utter rubbish and nonsense.

It's your cross to bear if you continue in such beliefs - you can
screw up your own website all you want.

But it's damn irresponsible to make such proclamations the way you do,
some newbies with even less knowledge might just believe you.

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