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OverDrive  
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 11:56 am
From: OverDrive
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:56:23 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 11:56 am
Subject: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
We are indexed by Google, many of our pages have PR3 or PR4, we have
fresh daily user generated content -- yet we don't rank for even the
lowest competition keywords.

The website is www.2hotnsexy.com
Which should rank for keyword searches like 'Etobicoke Strip Clubs' or
'Markham Massage Parlor', amongst many other no competition keywords.
For these terms we appear in the top 5 SERPs in Yahoo, Ask and MSN --
but not Google.

We're at wits end trying to figure out why Google won't rank us. Can
*anyone* help here? Or maybe point me towards a phone number or email
address where I can contact a Google rep?


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djc  
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 12:25 pm
From: djc
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:25:14 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
When I search site:www.2hotnsexy.com hot Indian escort, I find your
site
When I search site:www.2hotnsexy.com Toronto's Hottest Escorts, I find
your site

As I said in your other thread, you have a great deal of compition.
You may think your should be in the top of the SERPs but Google
doesn't agree.

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OverDrive  
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 12:35 pm
From: OverDrive
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:35:02 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
Why do Yahoo, MSN, and Ask agree?
And (for example) when you do a search for 'Vaughan Independent
Escort', Yahoo, and MSN rank us #1, but Google somehow thinks pages
titled "Pickled Politics » News roundup from the sub-continent",
"Bibliography, Alabama Regimental History", and "Cricket: Invasion
delays end to England shambles Independent, The ..." are more
important/relevant to the users search?
I wouldn't be making such a stink about this if I didn't think there
was a genuine issue with Google.

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 More options Jul 19 2007, 12:48 pm
From: djc
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:48:51 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
Yahoo, MSN and ASK are not Google.  If all worked the same way, we
would only need one.

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djc  
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 12:56 pm
From: djc
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:56:50 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
Using link:www.2hotnsexy.com at yahoo leads me to think some of your
incoming links are not helping you at all with Google and may actually
be leading you to some penalties.  I know in at least one other thread
you were asked if you had read Googles webmaster guidelines.....guess
that person should have asked if you followed the guidelines.

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OverDrive  
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 1:06 pm
From: OverDrive
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:06:44 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
What links are you referring to? We link to other escorts, escort
agencies, massage parlors .... etc .
Please!!!! Tell me what links would be "leading you to some
penalties"? Furthermore, wouldn't Google Webmaster Tools notify us if
we had a penalty?

What portion of the guidelines do you suppose we aren't following?

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Adam Lasnik Google employee  
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From: Adam Lasnik
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:12:29 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
Hi Overdrive,

When checking out your site, I didn't spot much in the way of original
content or tools (various snippet searches yielded multiple domains
each time).

If other sites are stealing your descriptions and other content, you
may want to take action.  If you're simply all working with the same
descriptions, well, it's going to be a tough battle to differentiate
your site -- at least in Google -- without adding some content and/or
tools that users can't find elsewhere.


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 More options Jul 19 2007, 5:35 pm
From: OverDrive
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:35:25 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Google Reps! Please Help! Algorithm Bug!?
Adam, thanks for the response!
We've worked really hard to maintain original content, and we pride
ourselves on keeping it fresh and new. However, we are unable to stop
scrappers from taking our content and posting elsewhere. What do you
recommend we do to combat this? Is Google not able to see that our
site was the originator of the content?

As for original tools, It's hard for Google to see the features
because it can't login and actually use the site, but our directory is
far more comprehensive than all the others out there. We incorporated
tags onto our listings, reviews, friends lists, live cam-to-cam chat,
blogs, even Google maps showing all the massage parlors and strip
clubs from around Toronto. Suffice to say there are many tools on our
site that are simply unavailable anywhere else.
Which is why we're confused that we don't rank for very low
competition keywords like 'Etobicoke Strip Clubs' (where we have a
page JUST for etobicoke strip clubs, that doesn't appear to have had
it's content scraped). This is merely one example where we don't rank
at all and the SERPs that do show are barely relevant (if at all).

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