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Admin Aaron  
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 More options Apr 10 2007, 9:44 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:44:44 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 9:44 pm
Subject: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
JLH mentioned that Adam and Vanessa would rather hangout with a bunch
of spammers (SES) than resolve issues in Google Groups? Is this the
case? When was the last time we heard from them in here? Will Google
introduce a few new folks to us if they have moved on?

What's up? JLH is a good man and I do not like seeing webmasters lose
the faith.


 
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 More options Apr 10 2007, 11:04 pm
From: jorobertson
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:04:15 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
Check over on the google blogs:

Posted by Vanessa Fox
3/02/2007 01:49:00 PM
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/using-site-command...

Joanne
(PS:  I don't know who Vanessa is but I just happen to be reading some
info over on the blogs.

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 More options Apr 10 2007, 11:06 pm
From: dockarl
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:06:46 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
As I understand it, Vanessa is in New York, and Adam is at Mountain
view, undoubtedly catching up on loads of work he missed out on duing
his time in Munich and Sydney recently - they are both still alive ;)

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 More options Apr 11 2007, 12:17 am
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:17:22 -0000
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
site:googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com buffy

I am getting the urge to fingure out Vanessa's Buffy obsession.This
type of stuff happens when Google Groups is neglected, minds tend to
wander. =P

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Sebastian  
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 More options Apr 11 2007, 8:33 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:33:31 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 8:33 am
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
Don't say "Bu**y", never! You'll get hit by the "buffy blonde girl
pointy stick penalty":
http://sebastianx.blogspot.com/2007/03/googles-anchor-text-reports-en...
Sebastian

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JLH  
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 More options Apr 11 2007, 1:10 pm
From: JLH
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:10:53 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
I've charted the participation here:

http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/04/the-era-of-communication-is-over/

The only shining light is that Jonathon Simon has been seeing an
increase, all others have moved onto something else.  Time for Google
to go to Monster.com and spend some of its money.

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 More options Apr 11 2007, 1:35 pm
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:35:33 -0000
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
Hold your breath and I'll give odds you'll go purple waiting.

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Sebastian  
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 More options Apr 11 2007, 2:00 pm
From: Sebastian
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:00:02 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
I don't feel pessimistic.

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JLH  
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 More options Apr 11 2007, 2:13 pm
From: JLH
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:13:54 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
I know you don't you've towed the line well, you are owed a debt of
gratitude.

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Apr 11 2007, 2:20 pm
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:20:57 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 11 2007 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?

> JLH mentioned that Adam and Vanessa would rather hangout with a bunch
> of spammers (SES) than resolve issues in Google Groups?

It is absolutely true, but perhaps a bit tongue in cheek.  According
to http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/ Vanessa is presenting
at SES NY today:

1:30pm - 2:45pm

Duplicate Content & Multiple Site Issues
Vanessa Fox, Product Manager, Webmaster Central

and do not doubt for one second that the audience will include its
share of spammers.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?" by JLH
JLH  
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 More options Apr 13 2007, 4:31 am
From: JLH
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:31:31 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 13 2007 4:31 am
Subject: UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
Adam replied, "I expect you'll see more Googlers participating in a
couple of months and more Google-participation overall (upward trend
throughout the year)."

Among a couple other comments at http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/04/the-era-of-communication-is-over/#1456

So, the news is looking up.

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 More options Apr 13 2007, 8:03 am
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:03:24 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 13 2007 8:03 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
I don't doubt for an instant that they have good intentions. I just
don't think this is a priority. Now if this were Google Checkout, or
Google Adwords.....

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 More options Apr 13 2007, 10:32 am
From: BobbL
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:32:20 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 13 2007 10:32 am
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?

If I read his profile right, the bad news is that even my acappella-
based radio special (Apr 15 Sun aft, wusb.fm) isn't enough to draw
Adam out.

Bummer.

BobL


 
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VanessaFox Google employee  
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 More options Apr 16 2007, 8:44 pm
From: VanessaFox
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:44:31 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 16 2007 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
What Buffy obsession? Who is this Buffy of whom you speak?

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JLH  
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 More options Apr 16 2007, 10:43 pm
From: JLH
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:43:02 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 16 2007 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Groups Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
Now Matt Cutts has replied as well, saying that Adam has been involved
with an internal project.  So my assumptions that we have been
abandoned were wrong.

Once again, thanks to Adam and Matt for weighing in.  I'm not a
blogger of an significance so you can only assume that this help group
is high on their list of priorities.

http://www.jlh-design.com/2007/04/the-era-of-communication-is-over/

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Discussion subject changed to "UPDATE: Groups NOT Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?" by JLH
JLH  
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 More options Apr 16 2007, 11:08 pm
From: JLH
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:08:07 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 16 2007 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Groups NOT Abandoned by Adam and Vanessa Fox?
I can only assume it's this Buffy.

http://www.timvp.com/familyaf.html

So what's wrong with Jody?

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