what has the world come to, spammers get more and more valiant!
this URL is (appear to be) hosted on google groups and yet it
redirects to some other site.
http://vivalb55.googlegroups.com/web/bad-credit-credit-card.htm

The  domain googlegroups.com has nothing to do with Google.

So yes, it's deceitful and spammy and nasty. And maybe Google should
flex some muscle here.

On Jan 30, 9:14 pm, SLK wrote:

If you try: http://googlegroups.com it redirects to; http://groups.google.com/
which means it is owned by Google.
Try to investigate these things before rushing to conclusions!

am not the only one whose noticed this, its already been covered by
Techcrunch: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/go-to-google-groups-get-tricked-...

On Jan 31, 2:30 am, webado wrote:

On Jan 30, 7:03 pm, SLK wrote:

You are correct that the above site is owned by Google but the fact
that there is a redirect is not how you can tell that is the case
(anyone can do that).  You need to look up the WHOIS details for the
domain, check what name servers are being used and also check the
WHOIS details for the IP(s) the domain resolves to since Google owns
there own netblocks.  If all of those things map to Google then it
probably is owned by Google though it could also depend on who the
registrar is (there are rogue registrars out there which is why
spammers / phishers get away with stuff like fast-flux DNS setups).

The problem looks like Google trying to make USENET postings more
easily accessible but which unfortunately means that any spam that
makes it onto USENET now is running under their domain (arrrgh).

NoScript and Adblock in Firefox are your friend!

Cheers

Sorry, I moofed. I jumped to conclusions, that's for sure.

But I have trouble figuring out how one can do any redirection from a
group page, or make folders for that matter.
I have seen no way to add javscript or meta refresh to a page in a
Google group.

Anyway, it seems it's this group:

http://groups.google.com/group/vivalb55

But the web folder there is now empty. Yet that page still appears to
exist. How it was able to have javascript in it is beyond me.

The script used is this:
http://www.parkonrails.com/lead.asp?id=55

which does this:

myurl='http://www.debtsolutionadvisor.com/7419/display.ilp?
SID=';top.location.replace(myurl);

The curious cheeky thing is the huge number of files in the files
folder and they are all html pages:

http://groups.google.com/group/vivalb55/files

I bet they are the same kind of crap.

Time to get rid of all that garbage.

And ban the lot that are involved in this.

Both parkonrails.com and debtsolutionadvisor.com ought to be
annihilated, nuked out of existence.

On Jan 30, 10:03 pm, SLK wrote:

Well Blogger has long been used for garbage like this.

This is a new twist, using groups.

On Jan 30, 10:03 pm, SLK wrote:

That's nothing, spammers even spam here.  :-()

You could try finding a place to mention what you have found in the
Google Groups Google Group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-Guide/topics
but I don't know where specifically or what will happen after that.

On a related note, I just got my first SEO spam today and I feel so
happy.  All this talk of other webmasters receiving SEO spam and my
not getting any sort of made be feel left out.  :-(

That doesn't mean any of you reading this need to now go out of your
way to make sure I get more though.  :-()

Craig

On Jan 31, 11:14 am, SLK wrote:

I've been getting that by the handful. Almost daily.

On Jan 30, 10:58 pm, cass-hacks wrote:

Nice.

Google's indexed it.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=site:vivalb55.googlegroups.com

It uses a javascript to redirect you which is located at
http://www.parkonrails.com/lead.asp?id=55

Liberal use of bolded terms.

External links to:

<a href="http://www.firefoxcn.org/firefox/"
target="_blank">firefoxÏÂÔØ</a>
<a href="http://www.biz4cn.com" target="_blank">Manufacturer
Directory</a>

<a href="http://www.tastig.com" target="_blank">China suppliers</a>
<a href="http://www.firefoxcn.info/firefox/firefox.html"
target="_blank">firefox</a>

Who wants to fill out a spam report on a Google domain? I wonder if
they'll read that one, all of mine go in the circular file, someone
else give it a go.

Hi everyone

Thanks for bringing this issue up. I've passed it on to the team. In
general, if the group had normal postings, you could use the "Report
this message" link (under "More Options") to report things like this.
In cases like this where there are no postings to report (but where
the group clearly abuses our terms of service), you can send an email
to abuse @ googlegroups.com providing the information that you have.

Thanks for your help!
John

I'm very happy for you Craig - you must have been feeling unloved ;-)

Yesterday's batch had one offering 50 inbound links for $50 a week; I
thought I'd follow it up and asked them what would be the PR of the
pages linking to me. They haven't replied yet. Oddly, whenever these
SEO's ask me to put in a link to another site they never mention
money.  Strange.

Becky