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lpx  
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 More options Jul 9 2007, 1:48 pm
From: lpx
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:48:08 -0000
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 1:48 pm
Subject: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
I've got a lot of new listings for Google search. Is it worth
submitting them to Gooogle sitemaps if my site has a penalty?

The more I do the more I seem to get penalized.


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roysnj  
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 More options Jul 9 2007, 1:54 pm
From: roysnj
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:54:48 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
Why wouldnt you want to fix your site and get good placement?

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Jul 9 2007, 2:22 pm
From: Phil Payne
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:36 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?

> The more I do the more I seem to get penalized.

I think the miniscule links at the bottom of your home page are enough
to get you banned outright, much less penalized.

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Adam Lasnik Google employee  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 9 2007, 10:46 pm
From: Adam Lasnik
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:46:25 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
Phil does have a good point that the tiny text on the bottom of your
homepage looks particularly spammy :(.

And in fact, lpx, I think you may want to view this more broadly:
How much on your site is for users, and how much is clearly designed
for search engines?  The former is laudable, the latter...
problematic.

I also see lots of duplicate content as part of pages that might be
considered "doorways."
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Protected+as+a+world+heritage+site,...

To the extent you are able, I'd focus on creating compelling content
and tools which'd differentiate your site within the very crowded and
competitive travel space.  What would make your users think, for
instance, wow... that tool (or content) is super-helpful and I've not
seen it elsewhere? :)


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Phil Payne  
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 More options Jul 9 2007, 11:44 pm
From: Phil Payne
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:44:20 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?

> What would make your users think, for
> instance, wow... that tool (or content) is super-helpful and I've not
> seen it elsewhere? :)

Giggle.  Hoot.

Business aside, my hobby is the original Audi quattro.  The ur-quattro
- the fire-breathing beast.

I decided to fit a modern SatNav system to mine, and it wasn't easy.
I documented the process to help other owners should they decide to do
the same.  A simple enough page devoid of tricks because - there
wasn't any point.

ROF,L.

http://www.isham-research.co.uk/quattro/wiring/Typ85/isopin.html

Now do a search on "ISO radio connectors" without the quotes.  I seem
to have become the friend of every satellite navigation installer on
the planet.  I've created a monster.


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lpx  
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 More options Jul 10 2007, 6:17 am
From: lpx
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:17:22 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 6:17 am
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
Phil, I accept what you're saying. Thanks for your posts.

> >I also see lots of duplicate content as part of pages that might be
> >considered "doorways."

These pages do contain some unique content in the maps and routes
available to the airports in europe.
Do I need to put a "nofollow" to stop google indexing these pages if
it is going to get me a penalty?

Where do I draw the line?

I'm trying to provide content for people searching for budget flights
in europe.

http://www.lonelyplanetexchange.com/flights/cheap_flights/flight_to_m....

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borris johnstone  
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 More options Jul 10 2007, 6:42 am
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:42:52 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 6:42 am
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
"focus on creating compelling content"

Maybe you need to change pages like this
http://www.lonelyplanetexchange.com/accommodation/Thailand/Bangkok_Ac...
which has 750 identical words to http://www.world66.com/asia/southeastasia/thailand/bangkok


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borris johnstone  
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 More options Jul 10 2007, 6:44 am
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:44:31 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 6:44 am
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
sorry the post cut me off - i can see that you have credited the
world66.com site however i worry that it is seen as duplicate content
by google

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lpx  
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 More options Jul 10 2007, 5:32 pm
From: lpx
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:32:08 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Google Penalty - Is it worth doing anything?
Thanks for your input.

I will look at my pages.

On 10 Jul, 11:44, borris johnstone wrote:


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