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Admin Aaron  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 8:31 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:31:56 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 8:31 pm
Subject: Google has forgotten about me?
My site: www [dot] ne-design [dot] net

If I cut and paste a sentence from my website into Google search I
find someone who sells a similar product ranking for the text that
they copied from my home page.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=High+Quality+Rain+Barrel+-+Handl...

You might say not a problem right? Wrong!

Why is someone else showing up for the text that originated on my site
when I search for it? I should also be showing up if I search for the
text from my site right? Where am I then Google???

Why is this copycat's website also ranking for related "phrases" that
are within the copied text?

Google seems to have forgotten large chunks of my text, making it
duplicate, remember me Google?

(Note: I did migrate my pages over to wordpress from a static site not
long ago and have lost search engine position, could this be one of
the factors?)


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 More options Sep 23 2007, 9:49 pm
From: webado
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:49:08 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
You will find your page at #1 if you search for the phrase in quotes.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22High+Quality+Rain+Barrel+-+Handles+...

Otherwise all pages from anywhere that contain those words in any
order, anywhere on the page, whether contiguous or not (and
discounting article, conjuntions and prepositions), qualify to be
returned.

However pay attention to the indented result.  Where do you think it's
coming from?

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 More options Sep 23 2007, 9:51 pm
From: webado
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:51:19 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
Hmmm.... A Xenu crawl reveals some redirectins happening during
crawling:

List of redirected URLs
http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrels-custom.html
redirected to: http://www.ne-design.net/custom-rain-barrels.html
status code: 301 (object permanently moved)
linked from page(s):
        http://www.ne-design.net/
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-installation.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-paint.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/make-a-rain-barrel-stand.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/oak-whiskey-barrel.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-order.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/testimonials.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-mo.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/contact/
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-options.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/about.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/standard-rain-barrel.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/sitemap/
        http://www.ne-design.net/irrigation-system.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-chain-barrels.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/frequently-asked-questions.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/horse-barrels.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-care.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/custom-rain-barrels.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/downspout-diverter.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-in-winter.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/gutterless-barrel.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/pennsylvania-rain-barrels.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrels-in-arizona.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/mosquito-hawks.html

http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-faq.html
redirected to: http://www.ne-design.net/frequently-asked-questions.html
status code: 301 (object permanently moved)
linked from page(s):
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-order.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-mo.html

http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-about.html
redirected to: http://www.ne-design.net/about.html
status code: 301 (object permanently moved)
linked from page(s):
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-order.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-mo.html

http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-testimonials.html
redirected to: http://www.ne-design.net/testimonials.html
status code: 301 (object permanently moved)
linked from page(s):
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-order.html
        http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-mo.html

You should fix the navigation to use only the final urls and eliminate
redirectins.

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 More options Sep 23 2007, 9:58 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:58:40 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
I posted about that (www.ne-design.net/?src=QHA023) here before and
but couldn't get an answer so now I have it redirected to home. It
still worries me because it made my index a kind of duplicate. :(

The redirects are from when I moved the website to wordpress, I 301'd
the URLs, is there any reason to take them out? I have never heard
about removing 301s, most have said to leave them forever?

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 More options Sep 23 2007, 10:12 pm
From: Admin Aaron
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:12:53 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
This really sux, that (www.ne-design.net?src=QHA023) is a new one, the
old one I redirected was (www.ne-design.net?src=QHA117) and they
appear to be links coming in from a strange directory here:
http://www.emagazine.com/directory/ if someone could help resolve this
one issue even it would be great.

Also: The following URLS are from my primative order forms.

http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-order.html
http://www.ne-design.net/rain-barrel-mo.html

They are a bit duplicate in text but one is for paypal shopping cart
orders and the other is for mail orders, should I nofollow both?

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 More options Sep 23 2007, 10:16 pm
From: webado
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:16:53 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
The redirects should stay BUT not in your naviagtion. They should stay
for  letting Google recrwal old midnexed pages (and it will then
change them over) and for any rpeviosuly bookmarked page and any
inbound links you have.

But NOT in  your current navigation :)

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 More options Sep 23 2007, 10:27 pm
From: webado
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:27:12 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Google has forgotten about me?
Well am I correct in assuming your site is not using any query strings
with paramater src ?
If so then you can intercept all url's that have a query string with
src= in it  and 301 redirect them to wherever.

How did you do your current redirection?

Your url's for ordering could be disallowed in robots.txt and also
nofollowed - unless your order pages have some content you
specifically want robots to index. I don't let my order forms get
indexed, but that's by choice (to prevent fraudsters and spammers).
All the information would have already been provided before getting to
the order form in my case, so there's nothing new needing indexing.

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