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Rahul ~conqueror of all miseries~  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 9:45 am
From: Rahul ~conqueror of all miseries~
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:45:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 9:45 am
Subject: Do I need to file another reconsideration request!
Hello All,

To start with I have a blog which had PR4 in Dec 2007. Then it dropped
to PR3 just when I was expecting it to gain, as I got quality
backlinks from nice sites and people from open-source all over the
world. Not to mention separately none of the link/review till this
date is purchased.

Actually I have no money to purchase anything to be frank! :-)

As usual when something goes wrong like other people I have googled
and found text-link ads can harm a blog. I had 2-3 text-links on my
blog which I immediately removed. Next I made everything sure about
all guidelines and filled a reconsideration request.

Forget about reconsideration I haven't yet received any response after
4 weeks.

Actually I still get good traffic from google so I am not completely
thrown out.  My only worry is - drop in page rank just when I was
expecting it to rise. Also not considerable rise in traffic  which I
guess is a consequence of PR drop.

After filing reinclusion request I removed many wordpress plugin
trying to over optimize my site (which is a wordpress blog). They
reduced webcrawl error from 1000's to 100's.

So I have following questions if anyone can answer please....

1. Does web crawl error have something to do with pagerank or penalty?

2. Am I supposed to file a new request mentioning all moves I made
since last request?
Act I do not want to overload support people at Google Webmaster, so I
am refraining myself from doing that.

3. Is there any way to know that if we had been penalized and if
penalized duration of penalty?

4. How much time in worst case it takes to...
a. get a reply about reconsideration request?
b. revoking penalties if any?

Thanks for giving time to read about my irony... :-(
-Rahul


 
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Rahul Bansal  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 9:47 am
From: Rahul Bansal
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:47:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 9:47 am
Subject: Can anyone answer if I need to file another reconsideration request?

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Aaron Pratt  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 2:10 pm
From: Aaron Pratt
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:10:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Can anyone answer if I need to file another reconsideration request?
This the domain?

http://www.devilsworkshop.org/

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Berghausen Google employee  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 2:39 pm
From: Berghausen
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:39:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Can anyone answer if I need to file another reconsideration request?
Hi Rahul-

Sorry to hear about your PageRank troubles.  Google does not contact
webmasters back about the status of reconsideration reports.  If we
did, it would become much easier for webspammers and the less ethical
SEO's to test for grey areas in the webmaster guidelines and we don't
think this is in the best interests of the searching public.  However,
I do understand that this can be very frustrating.  The best thing to
do is recheck your site against the webmaster guidelines, and if you
find further issues, fix them and submit another reconsideration
report.  If you find no issues, you are probably in the clear.

The other thing is that the PageRank shown in the Google Toolbar is
only updated periodically, usually every few months, and is only an
abstraction from the constantly updated number our algorithms use.  In
the time between updates, any number of things can happen to the other
sites that link to you, and the sites that link to them (and so on) so
it can be hard to predict how the little green bar is going to move.
My advice in this account: focus on writing more of that good content
that's gotten you links from around the open-source community--then
pay attention to the traffic you're getting from Google Search, rather
than the PageRank showing up in the toolbar since traffic is probably
the most up-to-date indicator of your site's performance.

And to answer your questions:

1. Web crawl errors usually do not correlate to problems with PageRank
or penalties... they can be signs of broken links or slow server
performance, so it's still worth looking into them, since visitors are
more likely to stick around a fast-loading, well-organized site.

2. It's only necessary to file a new reconsideration request if you
have changed something that was previously in violation of the
webmaster guidelines.  Mentioning the things you changed can make the
request easier to evaluate, and it's certainly appreciated.

3. In some cases, you may receive an email or a message in your
message center in Webmaster Tools.  But really, the best way to check
if you may be penalized is still to watch your traffic from Google,
design your site for the users rather than search engines, and
periodically reread the webmaster guidelines to check that what you're
doing couldn't be interpreted as deviating from them in some way.

4a. We don't reply... so, I guess the worst and best cases would both
be "forever!"
b. This depends on a lot of things, and I don't really know how to
answer this in a satisfactory way.  Sorry... maybe some other
webmasters could chime in to share their experiences with
reconsideration requests?

And, as I promised, here's a link to the webmaster guidelines. :-)
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=3...

If you have questions about specific changes or issues you've had on
your site, I'd be happy to take another look.  Also, I'm sure the
other folks in the group would be happy to tackle them, too.

Best of luck with your blog!
-Bergy

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Rahul Bansal  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 2:52 pm
From: Rahul Bansal
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:52:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Can anyone answer if I need to file another reconsideration request?
@Aaron
Yes... It is the domain I am talking about.
Actually I thought posting link may be not allowed here so
purposefully omitted link in my post :-)

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Rahul Bansal  
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 More options Mar 6 2008, 3:22 pm
From: Rahul Bansal
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:22:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: Can anyone answer if I need to file another reconsideration request?
@Bergy

THANK YOU SIR, is all I can say about your wonderful reply... :-)

By the way special thanks for highlighting concern over "gray area"
I was wondering from long time as why someone nice like Google never
made guidelines perfectly clear. I guess I know the reason know ;-)

About Google Toolbars green indicator... I read somewhere that Google
does not allow using third party tools to check pagerank so I rely on
it.
Still my concern came from "Dashboard > Statistics  >  Crawl stats"
option in webmasters tool
where "Your page with the highest PageRank" showed...

> > February        Data is not available at this time.
> > January          Data is not available at this time.
> > December      http://www.devilsworkshop.org/

If you can see my homepage suffered some loss. Specially in January
when I was on peak of my blogging career all of a sudden my traffic
dropped.
That was the reason I was devastated to see personal loss.

Still I waited few weeks before filing first and only reconsideration
request.

Anyway the 1000's of error I mentioned in last month was caused by a
bug in caching plugin I used in order to improve performance i.e.
loading time of my blog. The plugin made my htaccess file too complex
that might have broke structure of my site from bots perspective. I am
personally against cutting-edge SEO so I never indulge in any
malpractices. Although I do a little bit of SEO like making use of
nice "permalinks" in "wordpress" blogging software. But all such small
things are miles away from violating any guideline.

On personal note I do believe in patience and good work. And your nice
support just made my belief stronger... :-)

Thanks Again,
-Rahul

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