Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
in thier Metro. example.
Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
"City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
there is a good chance his page will be included.
> Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> in thier Metro. example.
> Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> there is a good chance his page will be included.
Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
your business.
> And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> that one page?
> Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> duplicates.
> On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > in thier Metro. example.
> > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > there is a good chance his page will be included.
Say for example you have your ONE page. You have a heading that Says
"Johns A/C service" and a body that says "serving the following zip
codes x,x,x,x,xx(and you list the 28 zip codes)". If you do the math,
that is only giving you a .02% density for a single zip code, which
isn't going to cut it. Any other website mentioning the same zip code
a couple of times with the phrase "AC service" is going to list higher
that you.
Other items on the webpages such as "customer comments" for a zip code
would be listed, which would help make the page unique.
Each page would end up being about 40% unique. Which goes back to my
original question. Has anyone done research to know a safe zone to be
in?
> And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> that one page?
> Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> duplicates.
> On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > in thier Metro. example.
> > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
Reid,
Thanks for the link. I went and read it. My goal with this is
to get people to a page that reflects what they are looking for. We
have about 20 phone number to service our differnet areas, so when a
person lands on one of these pages they see that he services that area
and displays a phone number for that area, see customer comments for
that area, along with key phrases, which would be relavant to thier
original search.
What is your opinion of companies like www.servicemagic.com which do
this. They have pages for every zip code/city combination. They
might have 12 zip codes in a metro that display the exact same
results, the only difference is the page name is different and meta
info, the rest is usually the same. However they appear very high
when searching for difference home repairs + zip.
> Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
> Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
> results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
> your business.
> - Reid
> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, webado wrote:
> > And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> > that one page?
> > Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> > not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> > duplicates.
> > On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > > in thier Metro. example.
> > > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
> Reid,
> Thanks for the link. I went and read it. My goal with this is
> to get people to a page that reflects what they are looking for. We
> have about 20 phone number to service our differnet areas, so when a
> person lands on one of these pages they see that he services that area
> and displays a phone number for that area, see customer comments for
> that area, along with key phrases, which would be relavant to thier
> original search.
> What is your opinion of companies likewww.servicemagic.comwhich do
> this. They have pages for every zip code/city combination. They
> might have 12 zip codes in a metro that display the exact same
> results, the only difference is the page name is different and meta
> info, the rest is usually the same. However they appear very high
> when searching for difference home repairs + zip.
> > Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
> > Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
> > results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
> > your business.
> > - Reid
> > On Jul 17, 5:45 am, webado wrote:
> > > And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> > > that one page?
> > > Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> > > not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> > > duplicates.
> > > On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > > > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > > > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > > > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > > > in thier Metro. example.
> > > > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > > > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > > > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > > > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > > > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > > > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > > > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
There you are, trying desperately to get a toe hold on some specific
geo-target searches...
and get told that you're basically cookie-cutting, resulting in
duplication and no real usage...
so the site/pages are relatively useless...
and then you ee a few sites that literally suck for content, yet do
damned well with their little cookie cut-outs.
Makes no sense.
.
Yes, I am inflaming the situation a little.
This is one of those areas where there seems to be a lot of interest,
a moderate amount of "the serps say otherwise" and no real
explanation on why it's bad, yet seems to work for some.
There are several situations when the 'cookie-cutter' approach is the
only really viable option for small/new sites/businesses to compete.
You cannot go for the main term - there isn't the time/budget/
resources for the competition or to crawl up the rankings.
You cannot go for the damned specific and slightly repetitive, as
thats apparently such similitude (cool word) is bad.
Do do anything other than seriously risks you not getting seen/found.
So HOW can you do it?
And if it is so Bad... how comes several other sites/companies seem to
do so Well with it???
.
(Sorry Google - but more info/examples/reasoning would be good on this
one!)
> Excellent question aboutwww.servicemagic.com. I would like to hear
> Reid's opinion on this.
> On Jul 17, 4:17 pm, M.C. wrote:
> > Reid,
> > Thanks for the link. I went and read it. My goal with this is
> > to get people to a page that reflects what they are looking for. We
> > have about 20 phone number to service our differnet areas, so when a
> > person lands on one of these pages they see that he services that area
> > and displays a phone number for that area, see customer comments for
> > that area, along with key phrases, which would be relavant to thier
> > original search.
> > What is your opinion of companies likewww.servicemagic.comwhichdo > > this. They have pages for every zip code/city combination. They
> > might have 12 zip codes in a metro that display the exact same
> > results, the only difference is the page name is different and meta
> > info, the rest is usually the same. However they appear very high
> > when searching for difference home repairs + zip.
> > > Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
> > > Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
> > > results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
> > > your business.
> > > - Reid
> > > On Jul 17, 5:45 am, webado wrote:
> > > > And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> > > > that one page?
> > > > Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> > > > not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> > > > duplicates.
> > > > On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > > > > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > > > > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > > > > in thier Metro. example.
> > > > > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > > > > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > > > > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > > > > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > > > > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > > > > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > > > > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
I have a similar question with minor variations. Lets say we have
actual physical business locations in the 20 or so city/zips and they
each have their own page on the site. But we want to rank well in
nearby city/zips. So we are considering building pages for those
nearby city/zips. Of course these nearby city pages would have a lot
of the same content as the actual business location page. Would
Google consider the business location pages doorway pages? Would
nearby city pages harm us as a doorway page or duplicate content?
> Excellent question aboutwww.servicemagic.com. I would like to hear
> Reid's opinion on this.
> On Jul 17, 4:17 pm, M.C. wrote:
> > Reid,
> > Thanks for the link. I went and read it. My goal with this is
> > to get people to a page that reflects what they are looking for. We
> > have about 20 phone number to service our differnet areas, so when a
> > person lands on one of these pages they see that he services that area
> > and displays a phone number for that area, see customer comments for
> > that area, along with key phrases, which would be relavant to thier
> > original search.
> > What is your opinion of companies likewww.servicemagic.comwhichdo > > this. They have pages for every zip code/city combination. They
> > might have 12 zip codes in a metro that display the exact same
> > results, the only difference is the page name is different and meta
> > info, the rest is usually the same. However they appear very high
> > when searching for difference home repairs + zip.
> > > Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
> > > Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
> > > results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
> > > your business.
> > > - Reid
> > > On Jul 17, 5:45 am, webado wrote:
> > > > And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> > > > that one page?
> > > > Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> > > > not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> > > > duplicates.
> > > > On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > > > > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > > > > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > > > > in thier Metro. example.
> > > > > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > > > > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > > > > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > > > > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > > > > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > > > > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > > > > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
Thanks for input. I think I am going to go ahead and try this for a
couple of his zip codes. making sure of the following
1) All title tag and meta tags are unique
2) WIll display customer comments for that zip code only, which will
not repeat on any other page.
3) Make some dynamic content (a gallery of his work) that will change
everytime a person visit those pages
4) Run these through a duplicate page checker and make sure it at
least the content is 60-70% unique.
My concern is that I have been doing some reading about a page's "HTML
Fingerprint". I ran some of my pages though an "HTML fingerprint"
checker and it says that the fingerprints at 95% similar, which I
agree with (it also said my content is 85% unique between my pages).
I don't see how this can be totally unique when you shoot for
consistancy in your website as far as layout, menu, and how the
content is displayed. SO I am not sure if I need to concenr myself
with the html fingerprint.
Any thoughts on "html fingerprints" would be appriciated.
> There you are, trying desperately to get a toe hold on some specific
> geo-target searches...
> and get told that you're basically cookie-cutting, resulting in
> duplication and no real usage...
> so the site/pages are relatively useless...
> and then you ee a few sites that literally suck for content, yet do
> damned well with their little cookie cut-outs.
> Makes no sense.
> .
> Yes, I am inflaming the situation a little.
> This is one of those areas where there seems to be a lot of interest,
> a moderate amount of "the serps say otherwise" and no real
> explanation on why it's bad, yet seems to work for some.
> There are several situations when the 'cookie-cutter' approach is the
> only really viable option for small/new sites/businesses to compete.
> You cannot go for the main term - there isn't the time/budget/
> resources for the competition or to crawl up the rankings.
> You cannot go for the damned specific and slightly repetitive, as
> thats apparently such similitude (cool word) is bad.
> Do do anything other than seriously risks you not getting seen/found.
> So HOW can you do it?
> And if it is so Bad... how comes several other sites/companies seem to
> do so Well with it???
> .
> (Sorry Google - but more info/examples/reasoning would be good on this
> one!)
> On Jul 18, 3:00 pm, tomcat.allie wrote:
> > Excellent question aboutwww.servicemagic.com. I would like to hear
> > Reid's opinion on this.
> > On Jul 17, 4:17 pm, M.C. wrote:
> > > Reid,
> > > Thanks for the link. I went and read it. My goal with this is
> > > to get people to a page that reflects what they are looking for. We
> > > have about 20 phone number to service our differnet areas, so when a
> > > person lands on one of these pages they see that he services that area
> > > and displays a phone number for that area, see customer comments for
> > > that area, along with key phrases, which would be relavant to thier
> > > original search.
> > > What is your opinion of companies likewww.servicemagic.comwhichdo > > > this. They have pages for every zip code/city combination. They
> > > might have 12 zip codes in a metro that display the exact same
> > > results, the only difference is the page name is different and meta
> > > info, the rest is usually the same. However they appear very high
> > > when searching for difference home repairs + zip.
> > > > Why push the limit on how much duplicate content a page can have?
> > > > Pages with unique content often perform the best in Google's search
> > > > results, are better for users, which in turn, is probably better for
> > > > your business.
> > > > - Reid
> > > > On Jul 17, 5:45 am, webado wrote:
> > > > > And why not have just ONE page and the list of zipcodes he covers on
> > > > > that one page?
> > > > > Doing it the way you mention is inefficient and such pages are likely
> > > > > not to all get idnexed since ideed they will be duplicates or near-
> > > > > duplicates.
> > > > > On 17 juil, 08:33, M.C. wrote:
> > > > > > Has anyone done research to how much dulpicate content your pages can
> > > > > > have. I know it sounds crazy and why would someone do that. My
> > > > > > client is a service company and we need to cover all the major suburbs
> > > > > > in thier Metro. example.
> > > > > > Johns A/C does work in 28 different zip codes. He creates 28
> > > > > > webspages, page names reflect the township AC_service_City_zip.htm,
> > > > > > meta tags reflect city, zip such as Johns AC serivce serving the
> > > > > > "City" and "zip code" area. Then the body is a template and the city
> > > > > > and zip are filled in for each city/zip area.
> > > > > > This way when someone does a search for AC service "zipcode" or "city"
> > > > > > there is a good chance his page will be included.- Hide quoted text -
