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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 5:18 am
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:18:00 -0000
Subject: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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I am writing because my business site in the category of computer
repair overall is not being scanned correctly by google bots.  Also
when I look at keyword searches like pc repair in anaheim or pc repair
in torrance or other cities in Los Angeles and Orange County area.  I
see sites near the top that don't even have any of the keywords on
there pages or in their source code.  Even if you search using other
keywords there are non relevant hits at tops of rankings for example
if you use computer repair in 'City' . So why are they at the top of
the rankings?  The google bots keep scanning my site but don't update
my keywords they have scanned in my webmaster account and my site's
internal links still show my old links for my old website even though
I have submitted a sitemap for the bots to use that is up to date.  So
please let me know why this keeps occurring or are the google bots not
working correctly?  I have no problems on yahoo.   Also in  my
webmaster account it states the google bots last successfully scanned
my website in April 2007.  Why was the last successful scan supposedly
in April when the cached site of mine on searches shows it was scanned
as of July 21, 2007.  I also did move my old site files into a
different folder on my parent directory so that hopefully the google
bots will stop trying to go to those pages.  Thanks very much for
reading this and hopefully helping me with this issue.

Sincerely,
Claude
A Theus Venture
email: [email address]


 
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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 5:24 am
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:24:44 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 5:24 am
Subject: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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I am writing because my business site in the category of computer
repair overall is not being scanned correctly by google bots.  Also
when I look at keyword searches like pc repair in anaheim or pc repair
in torrance or other cities in Los Angeles County and Orange County I
see sites near the top that don't even have any of the keywords on
there pages or in their source code.  Even if you try searching with
other keywords like computer repair in 'City' non relevant sites come
up near top of rankings..  So why are they at the top of the
rankings?  The google bots keep scanning my site but don't update my
keywords they have scanned in my webmaster account and my site's
internal links still show my old links for my old website even though
I have submitted a sitemap for the bots to use that is up to date.  So
please let me know why this keeps occurring or are the google bots not
working correctly?  I have no problems on yahoo.   Also in  my
webmaster account it states the google bots last successfully scanned
my website in April 2007.  Why was the last successful scan supposedly
in April when the cached site of mine on searches shows it was scanned
as of July 21, 2007.  I also did move my old site files into a
different folder on my parent directory so that hopefully the google
bots will stop trying to go to those pages.  Thanks very much for
reading this and hopefully helping me with this issue.

Sincerely,
Claude
A Theus Venture
email: [email address]


 
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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 5:27 am
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:27:33 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 5:27 am
Subject: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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I am writing because my business site in the category of computer
repair overall is not being scanned correctly by google bots.  Also
when I look at keyword searches like pc repair in anaheim or pc repair
in torrance or other cities in Los Angeles County and Orange County I
see sites near the top that don't even have any of the keywords on
there pages or in their source code.  Even if you try searching with
other keywords like computer repair in 'City' non relevant sites come
up near top of rankings..  So why are they at the top of the
rankings?  The google bots keep scanning my site but don't update my
keywords they have scanned in my webmaster account and my site's
internal links still show my old links for my old website even though
I have submitted a sitemap for the bots to use that is up to date.  So
please let me know why this keeps occurring or are the google bots not
working correctly?  I have no problems on yahoo.   Also in  my
webmaster account it states the google bots last successfully scanned
my website in April 2007.  Why was the last successful scan supposedly
in April when the cached site of mine on searches shows it was scanned
as of July 21, 2007.  I also did move my old site files into a
different folder on my parent directory so that hopefully the google
bots will stop trying to go to those pages.  Thanks very much for
reading this and hopefully helping me with this issue.

Sincerely,
Claude
A Theus Venture
email: [email address]


 
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Phil Payne  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 5:51 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:51:48 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 5:51 am
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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> I am writing because my business site in the category of computer
> repair overall is not being scanned correctly by google bots.  Also
> when I look at keyword searches like pc repair in anaheim or pc repair
> in torrance or other cities in Los Angeles and Orange County area.  I
> see sites near the top that don't even have any of the keywords on
> there pages or in their source code.

You have to be kidding.  Yards of _crap_ on your home page - this is a
TINY extract:

Computer REPAIR COMPUTER SUPPORT COMPUTER FIX COMPUTER HELP COMPUTER
SOLUTIONS COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CA COMPUTER ASSIST COMPUTER
ASSISTANCE COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CACOMPUTER BUGS COMPUTER
ERRORS COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA COMPUTER PROBLEMS
COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA COMPUTER SETUP COMPUTER SET
UP COMPUTER INSTALLATION COMPUTER DEBUGGING COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS
ANGELES computer repair in torrance ca computer repair in torrance
california computer repair in torrance ca computer repair in torrance
california california computer repair in anaheim ca computer repair in
anaheim california computer repair in anaheim ca computer repair in
anaheim california Computer Repair in LA CA Computer Repair in LA
California Computer Repair in L.A. CA Computer Repair in L.A.
California Computer repair in LBC Computer repair in L.B.C. computer
repair in Beverly Hills CA Computer repair in Beverly Hills California
PC REPAIR in L.A. PC SUPPORT PC FIX PC HELP PC SOLUTIONS PC REPAIR IN
LOS ANGELES CA PC ASSIST PC ASSISTANCE PC REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CAPC
BUGS PC ERRORS PC REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PC PROBLEMS PC
REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PC SETUP PC SET UP PC INSTALLATION PC
DEBUGGING PC REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR PERSONAL
COMPUTER SUPPORT PERSONAL COMPUTER FIX PERSONAL COMPUTER HELP PERSONAL
COMPUTER SOLUTIONS PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CA PERSONAL
COMPUTER ASSIST PERSONAL COMPUTER ASSISTANCE PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR
IN LOS ANGELES CAPERSONAL COMPUTER BUGS PERSONAL COMPUTER ERRORS
PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PERSONAL COMPUTER
PROBLEMS PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PERSONAL
COMPUTER SETUP PERSONAL COMPUTER SET UP PERSONAL COMPUTER INSTALLATION
PERSONAL COMPUTER DEBUGGING PERSONAL COMPUTER REPAIR IN LOS ANGELES


 
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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 5:55 am
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:55:12 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 5:55 am
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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If I don't have the keywords then how will search engines find me
rocket scientist.

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 More options Jul 25 2007, 7:22 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:22:31 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 7:22 am
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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> If I don't have the keywords then how will search engines find me
> rocket scientist.

> On Jul 25, 2:51 am, Phil Payne wrote:

Do a search on my name.

Last time I looked, six of the top ten were me.  The top two (the biog
and the press cuttings) are always me.

How many times do you see "Phil Payne" in the text?

Who's the rocket scientist?


 
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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 6:32 pm
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:32:41 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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Hi, I looked up your name and what is the point.  Is your point that
you are a smart guy or is your point that Google finds your name on
the web?  Anyway I wasn't trying to imply your aren't smart but that
you are not completely correct on why Google isn't do a good job on my
site or other sites.  Also what I did does work for yahoo.  All the
search engines including Google are suppose to scan our pages for
keywords which is the advice they give webmasters.  So why are you
telling me to remove keywords and phrases.  If Google was so good my
site would have been scanned last year instead of this year only after
I submitted it to them directly about 2 months ago.  I was listed on
yahoo though not prominently because I wasn't aware of what was
necessary to get indexed and ranked for SERP.  But know that I am
aware I haven't gotten my site listed and indexed for almost every
search imaginable for my category.  In addition you didn't explain why
some sites are listed at the top of searches that don't have any
keywords in their source code.  So is googlebots just screwed up or
did these sites pay to get to the top which google claims they don't
allow.  You also didn't explain why googlebots can't seem to index my
correct links on my home page to my other sub pages.  And what would
be your suggestion then if I remove keywords on my page for search
engines to be able to find every possibility?  And would your possible
suggestion be compatible with both Google and Yahoo or just Google.  I
am getting the strong impression that the only way to get good
rankings on either search engine is to focus on one and forget about
the other since you can't have the best of both worlds unless your
site is for something unique and lacks competition.

Sincerely,
Claude

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ATheusVenture  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 6:37 pm
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:37:37 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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I forgot to mention it does seem Google is better at finding specific
keywords that are unique however if the search is more general I
believe yahoo is better since their index seems much bigger probably
because their bots scan more sites.  In addition they seem to rank
sites better on relevance.

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 More options Jul 25 2007, 6:45 pm
From: ATheusVenture
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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Last why do you use the word active imagination for googlebots since
that is just another way of saying they are screwed up sometimes or
always.

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 More options Jul 26 2007, 1:21 pm
From: Wysz
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:21:49 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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Quick reminder: Let's stick to webmaster issues here and leave rocket
science (or any other name-calling) to the experts. ;-)

Claude,

To help ensure that pages are properly ranked, we encourage webmasters
to create content that is valuable to human visitors, and not created
expressly for search engines. As Phil points out, your site has some
blocks of repeated keywords that don't appear to be there for regular
visitors to read.

I suggest that you review Google's Webmaster Guidelines, which provide
advice on ways to create a site that's good for both users and Google.
Violating the "Quality Guidelines" may hurt your ranking, so please
take a good look at them.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769

The quality guidelines include an advisory against the use of keyword
stuffing, which is explained here:
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66358

Please understand that pages are ranked based on a variety of factors,
not just by on-page text. In short, you don't need to list every
possible query that your site may be related to.

- Wysz

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 More options Jul 26 2007, 3:40 pm
From: Phil Payne
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:40:33 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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> Last why do you use the word active imagination for googlebots since
> that is just another way of saying they are screwed up sometimes or
> always.

I sometimes see 404s in my log files for URLs that have never been on
my site and aren't even of a form that's ever going to be.  They come,
it seems, in bursts.

Only the Googlebot ever tries to GET them and it happens on all my
sites.  The common factor is the Googlebot, which is why I describe it
as having an active imagination.


 
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 4:11 pm
From: mpilatow
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:11:16 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Regarding site: www.atheusventure.com
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As Phil and Wysz the huge collection of keywords an your home page
looks really bad for users and I would tend to believe that Google
considers it spammy. I would get rid of that. If you want to target
the keywords your best bet is to write useful and unique content in
the form of articles or maybe even add a blog. At best Google is
ignoring those keywords and at worst is penalizing you for them.
Another thing I noticed is that in Firefox the links on the left hand
side are nearly invisible. This may or may not be an issue with Google
but it is something to look into.

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