Its not your case, its our case.
Keep the samples coming.
> Thank you Burt for bringing my case to the forefront again -
> Appreciated
> Just to add a little more weight to your points, as well as the
> example you gave from my totally deindexed site, I have a few other
> examples of pages hijacked from my site, which are indexed, whereas my
> site got totally deindexed with no sign of it coming back in.
> Search on Google for -
> Coffee Bean Plant - Comes in on Page 2 - Proxy URL
> viaweb.info/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbGtlbm1ycy5jb20vY29mZmVl
> Advantages of Online Dating - Comes in Page 1 Position 5 - Proxy URL
> viaweb.info/index.php?
> q=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbGtlbm1ycy5jb20vb25saW5lLWRhdGluZw%3D%3D
> There are more if you need them.
> The serious point here is how Google can allow a proxy server to be
> ranked in the first instance and also how it somehow can take
> precedence over a 10 year old site (in my case) and also knock that
> site out of the index without any explanation. To be quite honest I
> would never have believed this could happen until I got caught up in
> this nightmare.
> Alan
> On Jul 2, 1:31 pm, Burt wrote:
> > Dear Adam,
> > on Friday in the thread you said:
> > "Trying to whack every single new proxy is a losing proposition.
> > One thing we do have a strong interest in keeping an eye on is
> > situations in which proxies outrank the original sites for reasonable
> > query terms.
> > For instance, if you have a site about lefthanded smokeshifters and a
> > search for "buy lefthanded smokeshifters" turns up a proxy site before
> > yours, then there's a potential issue there.
> > In contrast, simple site queries in this context don't really tell us
> > much or cause severe concern. Such results aren't negatively
> > impacting typical Google searches."
> > (talking abouthttp://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atoastedgamers.com
> > )
> > I replied with a bad sample (the minus sign I guess):
> > Ok, I have a sample, where a proxy outranks page of my own site for a
> > reasonable search term.
> > And my own page IS NO WHERE in the serps.
> > Proxies can take sites out, can take pages out.
> > Adam, I think its a serious problem.
> > This is the search term, without quotes "Bali-Portal is my first site
> > about Bali" , put bali-portal only between quotes, and add the rest of
> > the sentence, same result.
> > Proxy is nr 2, on page one, and supplemental, my page is not listed at
> > all!
> > Use the phrase with quotes on you find the original, NOT supplemental
> > But then alkenmrs said:
> > Do a search on Google for the following term - video broadcast
> > standards
> > The top result comes back as -
> > viaweb.info/index.php?
> > q=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbGtlbm1ycy5jb20vdmlkZW8vc3RhbmRhcmRzLmh0bWw%3D
> > which is the proxy that hijacked my complete site -www.alkenmrs.com
> > and got it totally deindexed
> > And I got another sample here:
> >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=New+Zealand+Schizophrenia+Founda...
> > You will find a proxy number 1.
> > This is the site delisted by this proxy:
> >http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&c2cof...
> > On others forums people are also complaining about being "taken out",
> > because of proxies, even with the aid of "SEO" companies working for
> > the competition.
> > Of course people can take precautions, verify bots, and what else is
> > possible, but this will only be done by people who run into a
> > "solution", my guess is most will never know what hit them.
> > It maybe is so that there are other factors in play as well for
> > "things" to happen, but still, it is the proxy that finally does it.
> > Those proxies have an easy to recognize pattern, at least a lot of
> > them... and they can't be mistaken for something else.
> > I really hope that G can do something about it....
> > (fellow groupers, please don't let this topic go off track. Post more
> > samples if you have them)
> > Are they good samples Adam? Should we find more?
