Hi,
I am wondering what is the latest on whether unique IP addresses are
better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
want to make any big blunders.
> I am wondering what is the latest on whether unique IP addresses are
> better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> want to make any big blunders.
> Can anyone help here?
If you build a domain farm, Google will find it.
The "common IP address" clue is trivial and possibly of use to small
children. Google pretty much has a copy of the entire web on its
systems and has _massive_ data mining cpabilities. Not just the IP
address, but the registrant, registrar, mutual links, common phone
numbers, etc., etc.
I like to buy unique IPs and group 2-3 of my sites to them, this
separates you from the piles of trashy sites out there but probably
has zero benefits. I mean think about it.
> > I am wondering what is the latest on whether unique IP addresses are
> > better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> > want to make any big blunders.
> > Can anyone help here?
> If you build a domain farm, Google will find it.
> The "common IP address" clue is trivial and possibly of use to small
> children. Google pretty much has a copy of the entire web on its
> systems and has _massive_ data mining cpabilities. Not just the IP
> address, but the registrant, registrar, mutual links, common phone
> numbers, etc., etc.
First of all, great user name--I can always use a little more John
Denver in my day, and now I have his soothing melodies running through
my head.
Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If this had a negative effect
on ranking, it would harm most of the sites on the web--and that's not
good for small webmasters or for our users. So, understandably,
sharing an IP should not have an effect your ability to rank.
My advice: don't worry about it. Host your site however you think is
best, and instead spend your time focusing on the content--making sure
your pages are easy to navigate for users regardless of their browser
or hardware, and ensuring that the content you provide is informative
and unique.
I hope that clears things up, and wish you some nice weather in Denver
for Thanksgiving!
-Bergy
> I like to buy unique IPs and group 2-3 of my sites to them, this
> separates you from the piles of trashy sites out there but probably
> has zero benefits. I mean think about it.
> On Nov 20, 12:33 pm, Phil Payne wrote:
> > > I am wondering what is the latest on whether unique IP addresses are
> > > better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> > > want to make any big blunders.
> > > Can anyone help here?
> > If you build a domain farm, Google will find it.
> > The "common IP address" clue is trivial and possibly of use to small
> > children. Google pretty much has a copy of the entire web on its
> > systems and has _massive_ data mining cpabilities. Not just the IP
> > address, but the registrant, registrar, mutual links, common phone
> > numbers, etc., etc.
> Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If this had a negative effect
> on ranking, it would harm most of the sites on the web--and that's not
> good for small webmasters or for our users. So, understandably,
> sharing an IP should not have an effect your ability to rank.
Country road, take me home...
In March 2007 Bruce Clay had a posting that said the top sites in
several searches had unique IP's - http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2007/03/which_is_better.html.
I am wondering if there is more evidence or an explicit statement by
Google (which I haven't found yet) that indicates a unique IP address
is better for your rankings.
Thanks for the posts and let me know if you know of anything else.
Best,
RockyMtnHi
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> First of all, great user name--I can always use a little more John
> Denver in my day, and now I have his soothing melodies running through
> my head.
> Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If this had a negative effect
> on ranking, it would harm most of the sites on the web--and that's not
> good for small webmasters or for our users. So, understandably,
> sharing anIPshould not have an effect your ability to rank.
> My advice: don't worry about it. Host your site however you think is
> best, and instead spend your time focusing on the content--making sure
> your pages are easy to navigate for users regardless of their browser
> or hardware, and ensuring that the content you provide is informative
> andunique.
> I hope that clears things up, and wish you some nice weather in Denver
> for Thanksgiving!
> -Bergy
> On Nov 20, 10:59 am, Admin Aaron wrote:
> > I like to buyuniqueIPs and group 2-3 of my sites to them, this
> > separates you from the piles of trashy sites out there but probably
> > has zero benefits. I mean think about it.
> > On Nov 20, 12:33 pm, Phil Payne wrote:
> > > > I am wondering what is the latest on whetheruniqueIPaddressesare
> > > > better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> > > > want to make any big blunders.
> > > > Can anyone help here?
> > > If you build a domain farm, Google will find it.
> > > The "commonIPaddress" clue is trivial and possibly of use to small
> > > children. Google pretty much has a copy of the entire web on its
> > > systems and has _massive_ data mining cpabilities. Not just theIP
> > > address, but the registrant, registrar, mutual links, common phone
> > > numbers, etc., etc.- Hide quoted text -
I think the key point in Bruce's post might be that dedicated IPs are
cheap. It you are truly concerned, spend the $3 per month on one.
(We do for our sites)
> Country road, take me home...
> In March 2007 Bruce Clay had a posting that said the top sites in
> several searches had unique IP's -http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2007/03/which_is_better.html.
> I am wondering if there is more evidence or an explicit statement by
> Google (which I haven't found yet) that indicates a unique IP address
> is better for your rankings.
> Thanks for the posts and let me know if you know of anything else.
> Best,
> RockyMtnHi
> -------
> On Nov 20, 6:20 pm, Berghausen wrote:
> > RickyMtnHi-
> > First of all, great user name--I can always use a little more John
> > Denver in my day, and now I have his soothing melodies running through
> > my head.
> > Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If this had a negative effect
> > on ranking, it would harm most of the sites on the web--and that's not
> > good for small webmasters or for our users. So, understandably,
> > sharing anIPshould not have an effect your ability to rank.
> > My advice: don't worry about it. Host your site however you think is
> > best, and instead spend your time focusing on the content--making sure
> > your pages are easy to navigate for users regardless of their browser
> > or hardware, and ensuring that the content you provide is informative
> > andunique.
> > I hope that clears things up, and wish you some nice weather in Denver
> > for Thanksgiving!
> > -Bergy
> > On Nov 20, 10:59 am, Admin Aaron wrote:
> > > I like to buyuniqueIPs and group 2-3 of my sites to them, this
> > > separates you from the piles of trashy sites out there but probably
> > > has zero benefits. I mean think about it.
> > > On Nov 20, 12:33 pm, Phil Payne wrote:
> > > > > I am wondering what is the latest on whetheruniqueIPaddressesare
> > > > > better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> > > > > want to make any big blunders.
> > > > > Can anyone help here?
> > > > If you build a domain farm, Google will find it.
> > > > The "commonIPaddress" clue is trivial and possibly of use to small
> > > > children. Google pretty much has a copy of the entire web on its
> > > > systems and has _massive_ data mining cpabilities. Not just theIP
> > > > address, but the registrant, registrar, mutual links, common phone
> > > > numbers, etc., etc.- Hide quoted text -
> I think the key point in Bruce's post might be that dedicated IPs are
> cheap. It you are truly concerned, spend the $3 per month on one.
> (We do for our sites)
It eliminates one variable at low cost. Back when a dedicated IP
meant a dedicated machine, it was unthinkably expensive. But
virtualization at all levels makes it a breeze.
> > Lots of sites are hosted on shared IPs. If this had a negative effect
> > on ranking, it would harm most of the sites on the web--and that's not
> > good for small webmasters or for our users. So, understandably,
> > sharing an IP should not have an effect your ability to rank.
> That wasn't quite the question.
And in some cases it has effect on your rankings, even on indexing,
even on being indexed or not
> I am wondering what is the latest on whether unique IP addresses are
> better for organic rankings. We are releasing several sites and don't
> want to make any big blunders.
Howdy Rocky,
These days, the only time you need a dedicated/unique IP number is if
the server requires it to install an SSL certificate for https. Check
with your hosting company on that.
The IP number means absolutely nothing regarding search engine
ranking. The big caution is to ensure IP numbers do not get picked up
for any of the internal site links. Some WYSIWYG software will do
that to you if you don't watch it.
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