Which IDE is best for GWT?

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tarik.guelzim

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:02:07 AM11/29/06
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this my question, which is best for GWT dev in practice?

eclipse
intelliJidea
netbeans

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Sandy McArthur

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:14:19 AM11/29/06
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Answer: in which environment do you write Java the best?

GWT is Java for the web browser. Which ever one you crank out Java code
the best/fastest is probably the one you should use.

(I happen to prefer IDEA, but Eclipse is the popular free choice.)

Md Mozammel Haque

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:23:29 AM11/29/06
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I've tried both Eclipse and IDEA and found IDEA development quicker on linux.

- Mozammel

Sascha Matzke

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Nov 29, 2006, 4:25:48 AM11/29/06
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What ever suits you best... My personal choice is IntelliJ Idea - it's
quite a bit faster on Linux (although 100% Java without any native
code like eclipse) and has no connections of any kind to IBM.

Sascha

sergey.p...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:35:25 AM11/29/06
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IntelliJ IDEA

But in future it will depend on GWT plugins quality, power and
stability.

br...@google.com

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Nov 29, 2006, 9:33:48 AM11/29/06
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sergey.p...@gmail.com wrote:
> But in future it will depend on GWT plugins quality, power and
> stability.

GWT was intentionally designed to work well in any IDE. We didn't want
to force you into a particular IDE. That said, several GWT-specific
plugins/modules are starting to appear that make GWT development more
productive.

See <http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/thirdparty.html> for a few
examples. Also check out Googlipse, which is an open source Eclipse
plug-in that you may find useful.

-- Bruce

tarik.guelzim

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Nov 29, 2006, 11:06:35 AM11/29/06
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well I'm a netbeans guy and I use it for the j2ee dev however it is
kinda slow to compared to others.maybe I'll check out the alternatives
ass you folks suggested.

Mr. Monster

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Nov 29, 2006, 11:16:52 AM11/29/06
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I use JBuilder 2006, works just as if you were working with any other
Java app with one click compile/hosted support.

Robert kebernet Cooper

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Nov 29, 2006, 12:29:26 PM11/29/06
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I used Netbeans + Mevenide + gwt-maven, and am really happy with it.
The IDEA GWT support is nice, but the "GWT" part of your coding isn't
likely all you do.

Mostly, yeah, use whatever IDE you like.

Adrian Marti

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:30:46 PM11/29/06
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the instantiations plugin for eclipse is pretty slick. i've found the
visual designer to be pretty damn good.

Ed Burnette

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Nov 29, 2006, 8:58:13 PM11/29/06
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Eclipse for free, and for $39 you can add the GWT Designer
(http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/), which will probably pay
for itself in the first day you use it.

--Ed
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette

blackbelt

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Nov 30, 2006, 7:24:18 AM11/30/06
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i think that im the only one using jdeveloper....

anyway, jdeveloper works really well with gwt and is also free...

GerryM

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Nov 30, 2006, 10:58:50 AM11/30/06
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Well that's $39/year.* But I can not authorize the purchase of
anything with a built-in time bomb. When the subscription runs out the
software will not function.

(*you can get cheaper rates for multiple year subscriptions)

Ian Bambury

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Nov 30, 2006, 11:06:36 AM11/30/06
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I never managed to get GWT designer to work with anything but dead-simple designs. Add an abstract class for your pages and it appears to be stuffed. Either that or I'm just too thick to get it working (shorlie knot!). It couldn't deal with my site's layout, and when I uninstalled it, it wiped all my workbench settings.
 
Ian
On 30/11/06, GerryM <gerry....@gmail.com> wrote:

Well that's $39/year.*   But I can not authorize the purchase of
anything with a built-in time bomb.  When the subscription runs out the
software will not function.



(*you can get cheaper rates for multiple year subscriptions)


Ed Burnette wrote:
> Eclipse for free, and for $39 you can add the GWT Designer
> ( http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/), which will probably pay

The Enterprise

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Dec 1, 2006, 2:24:24 AM12/1/06
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Try VistaFei , they have community edition plugin for eclipse and it is
free to use .
It has GUI Drag and drop capabilities.
No Need to pay and it gives all what you need. The Plugin is still
beta but it is getting better and better.

The best part it can do everything and it is FREE !!!.

I had access to the new beta, which will be released soon , it has
complete round trip and the featuers that it has much better than any
tool exisit in the market even for mature IDE for other platforms.
Plus they have an enterprise Edition , you will be amazed when you see
it.

We have been using it for a while, the team love it. The support we get
from wirelexsoft is excellent.
They also took all our feedback into considrations.

If you are serious about building AJAX applications , the I would say
VistaFei is the ultimate tool for you and the only tool you will need.

Ian Bambury wrote:
> I never managed to get GWT designer to work with anything but dead-simple
> designs. Add an abstract class for your pages and it appears to be stuffed.
> Either that or I'm just too thick to get it working (shorlie knot!). It
> couldn't deal with my site's layout, and when I uninstalled it, it wiped all
> my workbench settings.
>
> Ian
> http://www.examples.roughian.com/
>
>
> On 30/11/06, GerryM <gerry....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well that's $39/year.* But I can not authorize the purchase of
> > anything with a built-in time bomb. When the subscription runs out the
> > software will not function.
> >
> >
> >
> > (*you can get cheaper rates for multiple year subscriptions)
> >
> >
> > Ed Burnette wrote:
> > > Eclipse for free, and for $39 you can add the GWT Designer

> > > (http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/), which will probably pay


> > > for itself in the first day you use it.
> > >
> > > --Ed
> > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 30/11/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">GerryM</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gerry....@gmail.com">gerry....@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>Well that's $39/year.*&nbsp;&nbsp; But I can not authorize the purchase of<br>anything with a built-in time bomb.&nbsp;&nbsp;When the subscription runs out the
> <br>software will not function.<br><br><br><br>(*you can get cheaper rates for multiple year subscriptions)<br><br><br>Ed Burnette wrote:<br>&gt; Eclipse for free, and for $39 you can add the GWT Designer<br>&gt; (<a href="http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/">
> http://www.instantiations.com/gwtdesigner/</a>), which will probably pay<br>&gt; for itself in the first day you use it.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --Ed<br>&gt; <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette">http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette
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Sascha Matzke

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Dec 1, 2006, 3:56:00 AM12/1/06
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Nice add for VistaFei ;-)

Luciano Broussal

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Dec 2, 2006, 5:32:12 PM12/2/06
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Instantiation designer is the best IDE

VistaFei is great but but bijective refactoring is not very clean

Sascha Matzke a écrit :

> Nice add for VistaFei ;-)

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Luciano Broussal

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Dec 2, 2006, 5:40:47 PM12/2/06
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Whatever the technology you use, here gwt , i think designers are
greats for the first project levels.
for demo, prototype stage, but after it is an other story. You are
driven by the underlaying generated code that it is in most of the case
generated in a way you don't like.

Simple example -> most of the IDE consider your ui start with a screen
that is false!! I like starting with an ui manager that control all UI
resources i need for the application => it is more oop oriented than
puting all the initializing code into the init method of the first
window (ugly)

Luciano Broussal

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mark_j...@instantiations.com

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Dec 7, 2006, 2:13:38 PM12/7/06
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Even better...we are offering a bundle of GWT Designer + Ed's book
"Google Web Toolkit: Taking the pain out of Ajax" for only $44.95. A
'GWT developer jumpstart kit' of sorts.

http://www.instantiations.com/promo/6130e.html

Mark Johnson
Instantiations

Bill Heitzeg

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Jan 16, 2007, 6:42:53 PM1/16/07
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I have to say that GWT Designer probably cut my implementation time in
half. I've been using GWT from the first release and I absolutely love
it. GWT Designer is icing on the cake. GWT Designer doesn't solve
every problem, you still have to know GWT and know the right things to
do and where, but it does make so many GWT tasks easier. For 37.00 I
have a hard time imagining not using it.

Bill Heitzeg
hei...@emeraldsoftwareinc.com

Bill Heitzeg

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Jan 16, 2007, 6:45:11 PM1/16/07
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Hey wait, can I still get the deal with Ed's book? I just paid today,
darn...

mithrandir

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Jan 17, 2007, 5:45:34 AM1/17/07
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I prefer eclipse with the gwt tooling plugin or googlipse.

Yegor

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Jan 17, 2007, 10:50:47 AM1/17/07
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tarik.guelzim wrote:
> well I'm a netbeans guy and I use it for the j2ee dev however it is
- Which version of Netbeans are you using?

> kinda slow to compared to others.maybe I'll check out the alternatives
- Starting from versions around 4.x Netbeans became much faster (for me
at least). Starting from v.6 Netbeans will introduce a completely new
Java code editing infrastructure which, from what I've seen in recent
milestones, is comparable or even faster in responsiveness than that of
IDEA and Eclipse. It also became much smarter.
> ass you folks suggested.

So maybe it's not time for you to switch IDEs yet if you are
comfortable with Netbeans and have projects going. For your performance
problems, take a look at Netbeans configuration file at: {NETBEANS
INSTALLATION}/etc/netbeans.conf. There you can change Java runtime
parameters for Netbeans, like Xms, Xmx and GC. That helped me somewhat
with IDE performance.

I haven't used Netbeans for sometime now in big projects, but I am
really looking forward to beta of version 6.

Almedson Ferreira

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Jan 18, 2007, 7:10:14 AM1/18/07
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GWT Designer without doubt

I have had seen the others GWT forum members occupied with HTML, JSP or other files and with the GWT Designer, it looks like that I'm using java swing only.



2007/1/17, Yegor <Yegor....@gmail.com>:

stefoid

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Jan 21, 2007, 1:54:57 AM1/21/07
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is anyone aware of any decent reviews of these products?

The Cook (Kiril)

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Jan 21, 2007, 5:07:29 AM1/21/07
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I agree with this...
And another point... The idea in AJAX application is not to have
everything ready in the UI - UI must be generated on the fly, based on
the data, coming from the server... At least that's what I'm doing. So
I have much more code, dealing with the app logic, then with the UI.
Designers can't help you much with this.

About IDE - I like Eclipse. Used to be NetBeans once, but.. well,
things change. Since Eclipse released 3.2, I am sticked to it -
refactoring, local history - plenty of good things to enjoy.

K.

Scooter

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Jan 21, 2007, 8:37:34 AM1/21/07
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Very happy with Netbeans and the GWT plugin but would like to explore
some of the GUI layout tools to avoid the CSS details.

goo

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Jan 22, 2007, 3:05:48 AM1/22/07
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Anybody can point me where to get binary file jar of
com.google.gwt.json???

Dan Morrill

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Jan 22, 2007, 10:12:17 AM1/22/07
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Hi, goo!

The GWT JSON library is included in the usual GWT downloads.  The specific class files are in the gwt-user.jar file included in the distribution.  So, if you've downloaded GWT, you should already have the JSON classes.

Is something not working for you?

- Dan Morrill

Jason Essington

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Jan 22, 2007, 10:44:22 AM1/22/07
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Don't forget, if you are trying to use JSON in your client code, you
need to add the line:
<inherits name='com.google.gwt.json.JSON' />
to your gwt.xml file before the classes will be recognized by the
compiler.

-jason

Carlton

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Jan 23, 2007, 9:10:49 AM1/23/07
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Great! Adding the line solve the problem. Thanks a lot Jason and Dan

tarik.guelzim

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Jan 25, 2007, 10:25:16 PM1/25/07
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may be as you said beta 6 would be faster however I think that version
5.5 is much more better that the previous builds.

did any one heard about how core 2 duo and similar architectures can
hurt java's future in the sense that those processors rely on slower
cores but more of them. but since a jvm runs on a single core when it
start, this is similar to running a java application on a p3 instead of
p4.

any thoughts?

On Jan 17, 10:50 am, "Yegor" <Yegor.Jba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> tarik.guelzim wrote:

> > well I'm a netbeans guy and I use it for the j2ee dev however it is- Which version of Netbeans are you using?> kinda slow to compared to others.maybe I'll check out the alternatives- Starting from versions around 4.x Netbeans became much faster (for me


> at least). Starting from v.6 Netbeans will introduce a completely new
> Java code editing infrastructure which, from what I've seen in recent
> milestones, is comparable or even faster in responsiveness than that of
> IDEA and Eclipse. It also became much smarter.
>

> > ass you folks suggested.So maybe it's not time for you to switch IDEs yet if you are

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