Expiring hardware

[Bowker]

At the end of the 2 year life cycle for the GSA, what do people do
with the old hardware? Can the license be extended and save time/
money(?)/effort to install new hardware?

What have you done with your old cheese box?

[wachaca]

The licence does not expire, just the support for the hardware.
In theory the machine could/should last at least 5 years.
After 5 years the risk of hard drive failure increases exponentially.

[Thomas Schuman]

So do they just send you a new one, and then you just import your configuration into it and re-crawl?

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[Bowker]

I was under the impression that the software running on the box will
stop returning result sets after the two year license expires. Google
maintains a database at their site that the GSA uses to validates its
existance. Stored in that database is the 'end date' for the license.

What happens on/after that date?
What have people done with the hardware?
Paid to have that date extended?
Reformat everything and have an extra server for some other
project?
Door stop?
Take it home and run game software the the kids?

[7la...@gmail.com]

I found a FAQ page clearly stating that the GSA continues to operate
normally after the 2 years of support and warranty have expired.
Continued use is at your own risk, of course.

http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?answer=18283&topic=286

[Paul Silver]

On Mar 27, 3:01 pm, "7lay...@gmail.com" <7lay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found a FAQ page clearly stating that the GSA continues to operate
> normally after the 2 years of support and warranty have expired.
> Continued use is at your own risk, of course.
>
> http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?answer=18283&topic=286

At the top of that page it says "What is a non-expiring license?"

If you have an expiring license, you get this message in the Admin
area after the license runs out:
"The license has expired. You are in the grace period. The software
will stop crawling, indexing, and serving in 14 days. Please contact
Google to extend your license."

With the '14' counting down as the days go by. One of my clients has
this at the moment, I'll be able to confirm exactly what happens when
the time runs out after the weekend, we just expect it not to spider &
serve results any more, as the message says.

The Google Mini doesn't do this, once you're out of warranty you can
just keep it going until the hardware fails and then you'd need to
replace it.

Cheers

Paul
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[Seb]

When the licence expires, you get a grace period (and red messages in
the admin console), then another shorter grace period, then the GSA
will stop serving results.

Once the initial licence is loaded, the licence is perpetual and will
not expired. The GSA will have no differences whatesoever after the
first two years, it will continue to work. However, if the contract is
not renewed, Google will no longer provide support and hardware
replacement.

On 28 Mar, 10:59, Paul Silver <paul.sil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 3:01 pm, "7lay...@gmail.com" <7lay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I found a FAQ page clearly stating that the GSA continues to operate
> > normally after the 2 years of support and warranty have expired.
> > Continued use is at your own risk, of course.
>
> >http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?answer=18283&topic=286
>
> At the top of that page it says "What is a non-expiring license?"
>
> If you have an expiring license, you get this message in the Admin
> area after the license runs out:
> "The license has expired. You are in the grace period. The software
> will stop crawling, indexing, and serving in 14 days. Please contact
> Google to extend your license."
>
> With the '14' counting down as the days go by. One of my clients has
> this at the moment, I'll be able to confirm exactly what happens when
> the time runs out after the weekend, we just expect it not to spider &
> serve results any more, as the message says.
>
> The Google Mini doesn't do this, once you're out of warranty you can
> just keep it going until the hardware fails and then you'd need to
> replace it.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul

> --http://www.paulsilver.co.uk

> GSA & Google Mini blog:http://www.gsadeveloper.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 8:29 am, Bowker <d...@ntrs.com> wrote:
>
> > > I was under the impression that the software running on the box will
> > > stop returning result sets after the two year license expires.  Google
> > > maintains a database at their site that the GSA uses to validates its
> > > existance.  Stored in that database is the 'end date' for the license.
>
> > > What happens on/after that date?
> > > What have people done with the hardware?
> > >    Paid to have that date extended?
> > >    Reformat everything and have an extra server for some other
> > > project?
> > >    Door stop?

> > >    Take it home and run game software the the kids?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Bowker]

Paul,

"Once the initial license is loaded..." how does one load the
license to make it perpetual?

In the first paragraph you state " will stop serving..." in
paragraph two you state "...will not expire. The GSA will have no
differences..."

How does one load an initial license?

[Seb]

The licence is loaded through the licence screen on the admin console.
When purchasing a GSA, Google may send a temporary licence file once
the GSAs are despatched. Once the invoices are paid, Google will send
the perpetual licence files.

The licence expiring issues mentioned are only relevant on temporary
licences. Once the final licence file is loaded on a GSA, it will not
expire and will not stop crawling or serving.

[Paul Silver]

You were quoting Seb there, rather than me.

Having had a poke around the Google Enterprise web pages, I can now
see that they've changed their licensing model since I last looked, at
least for the base level GB-1001 unit. You now get a perpetual license
like you do with the Google Mini. My comment only holds for people who
have older GSAs which were bought under the previous model, for
instance like my client, who bought their GSA three years ago.

Sorry for causing any confusion.

Cheers

Paul

[Nick]

I just curious, what happen if the appliance over the grace period,

Is there will any trouble if you reload a new license?

And what happen if the appliance have a lots index has been crawl when still active

Do the index disappear?

It's just silly question, but sometime client ask this, I hope some be polite to answer me

Thanks

Nick

[Mathias Bierl]

You will not get a new license for the old machine.

After expiring you have to move to a new hardware with a new license.

The index will be available on the old machine but the old machine will get no updates and crawling will be disabled