WE are in October 2006 and still, there is no GPS that can communicate directly with Google Maps for mobile. For those who cannot wait any longer, you can use your own portable GPS with Google Maps for mobile. (Device tested Blackberry 8700, Google Maps for mobile version 1.3.2)
If you have a small portable GPS.
For example, sometimes when you travel with your car in a non familiar region, you get lost. Here is what you can do to get directions.
A) Find a safe location on the side of the road where you can park your car.
B) Start your portable GPS and get a position Latitude and Longitude of the location where you are, that means your vehicle.
C) Start your Google maps for mobile and press the menu " Find Location " / " Enter an address " and write down the Latitude and Longitude of your vehicle as follows: Ex: N 45 37 17.5, W 73 48 57.0 and press OK. (You can get more info on all possible formats used to enter a Latitude and Longitude in Google Earth to this address.)
D) The mapping of your location will appear. At the center of your screen, you will find a red icon(1) which is the actual location of your vehicle. If needed, you can zoom-in (get closer to the ground) or a zoom-out (move away from the ground). Don't forget that you can execute rapid zooms (two or more zooms in sequence without waiting for the result of the previous zooms). You can toggle from the Map View and the Satellite View.
E) If this overall view is not sufficient to indicate the directions that you have to follow, Google Maps for mobile can create a list of directions for you. In the menu, press " Directions " and choose the position of your vehicle as your " Start Point " and any location you know (ex: home) as the " End Point ". The directions that you have to follow will appear on your screen in multiples segments. You can toggle back and forth between segments. Before starting your car, be sure to reset to zero, the trip odometer of your car. Look on your screen and read the direction and the distance you have to follow for the first segment. Verify also if you have to change direction by making a 180 degrees turn. Memorize or note the length of the first segment in km. Start moving your vehicle and at the same time, keep an eye on your odometer to find how much distance (km) you have to go, to get your next segment. When you arrive close to the beginning of the next segment, activate the next segment on your screen for the next instructions to follow. Reset always your odometer at the beginning of a new segment and follow the same procedure for the remaining segments. The mapping will show the beginning of each segment as you move.
Anywhere you move, you can access the local information of that place. (Google Local).
To get this info, you select in the menu " Find Business " and you enter " restaurant " for example, and you press OK. You don't have to indicate the location of your research. Google Local will start the research of any restaurants in the region located in the center of the screen of your mobile. So, before using this menu, it is very important to locate the center of your screen over the location "where" Google Local should start his research.
If you have Google Earth on PC.
When you are surfing the world with Google Earth on PC, you have the ability to extract the latitude and the longitude of any locations that are important for you. Make the necessary moves and zooms to identify your place precisely, and place your cursor over a detail of that location. Look at the bottom of your screen and write down the latitude and longitude of your location (your cursor). You can write all those coordinates in a text file on your mobile.
For example, compare the places of this list on Google Earth on PC and on Google Maps for mobile. You can make a copy/paste of these coordinates.
Pink rabbit in mountains N 44 14 39.63, E 07 46 11.16 Mickey Mouse smiling N 48 48 19.71, E 02 07 03.99 2 people playing tennis N 42 21 47.14, W 71 06 46.49 Eiffel tower N 48 51 30.93, E 02 17 40.50
If you apply identical levels of zoom on both Google applications, the Plan View or Satellite View will be the same.
If you don't have Google Earth on PC
You can also extract coordinates from a version for Google Maps on PC adapted by InfoSports at this address.
While, I am not sure your phone would be fully supported, I would look into mgmaps ( http://www.mgmaps.com ) until google maps has GPS support. Your methods to try to use GPS on google maps for mobile to me look utterly cumbersome.
I have already tried mgmaps and it freeze sometimes my Blackberry. In few months, a more stable version will be probably available and we will see. It is quite a job for mgmaps to create a software (GPS or not) with the stability and speed of GMM .
I have to agree that there ought to be the capability to link a GPS unit with GMM. Given the number of both wired and BT GPS options, I am hoping that Google is working a GPS solution for GMM. I currently use Pathaway4 as my GPS mapping interface (with unlocked Cingular Treo 650) but it still requires that I scan and load images (maps - either JPG or GIF) and then calibrate the image to the program. Amazingly useful for navigation, but without the POIs available from a more comprehensive GPS mapping software solution (read: expensive). Being able to merge my GPS with GMM would provide the best of both worlds without the exorbitant price normally associated with a GPS package. I'm not necessarily talking about talking directions or the host of other amenities available in current mapping software (Tom-Tom, Garmin, etc...) but just the ability to see yourself and track your movement via GPS.
I have to agree that your method would be useful in a pinch but should be something that Google can integrate into the software.
Gazoo wrote: > WE are in October 2006 and still, there is no GPS that > can communicate directly with Google Maps for mobile. > For those who cannot wait any longer, you can use your > own portable GPS with Google Maps for mobile. > (Device tested Blackberry 8700, Google Maps for mobile > version 1.3.2)
> If you have a small portable GPS.
> For example, sometimes when you travel with your car > in a non familiar region, you get lost. Here is what you > can do to get directions.
> A) Find a safe location on the side of the road where > you can park your car.
> B) Start your portable GPS and get a position Latitude > and Longitude of the location where you are, that > means your vehicle.
> C) Start your Google maps for mobile and press the > menu " Find Location " / " Enter an address " and > write down the Latitude and Longitude of your vehicle > as follows: Ex: N 45 37 17.5, W 73 48 57.0 and press > OK. (You can get more info on all possible formats > used to enter a Latitude and Longitude in Google > Earth to this address.)
> D) The mapping of your location will appear. At the > center of your screen, you will find a red icon(1) > which is the actual location of your vehicle. If needed, > you can zoom-in (get closer to the ground) or a > zoom-out (move away from the ground). Don't forget > that you can execute rapid zooms (two or more > zooms in sequence without waiting for the result of > the previous zooms). You can toggle from the Map > View and the Satellite View.
> E) If this overall view is not sufficient to indicate the > directions that you have to follow, Google Maps for > mobile can create a list of directions for you. In the > menu, press " Directions " and choose the position > of your vehicle as your " Start Point " and any location > you know (ex: home) as the " End Point ". The > directions that you have to follow will appear on your > screen in multiples segments. You can toggle back > and forth between segments. Before starting your car, > be sure to reset to zero, the trip odometer of your car. > Look on your screen and read the direction and the > distance you have to follow for the first segment. > Verify also if you have to change direction by making a > 180 degrees turn. Memorize or note the length of the > first segment in km. Start moving your vehicle and at > the same time, keep an eye on your odometer to find > how much distance (km) you have to go, to get your > next segment. When you arrive close to the beginning > of the next segment, activate the next segment on your > screen for the next instructions to follow. Reset always > your odometer at the beginning of a new segment and > follow the same procedure for the remaining segments. > The mapping will show the beginning of each segment > as you move.
> Anywhere you move, you can access the local > information of that place. (Google Local).
> To get this info, you select in the menu " Find Business " > and you enter " restaurant " for example, and you press > OK. You don't have to indicate the location of your > research. Google Local will start the research of any > restaurants in the region located in the center of the > screen of your mobile. So, before using this menu, > it is very important to locate the center of your screen > over the location "where" Google Local should start > his research.
> If you have Google Earth on PC.
> When you are surfing the world with Google Earth on > PC, you have the ability to extract the latitude and the > longitude of any locations that are important for you. > Make the necessary moves and zooms to identify your > place precisely, and place your cursor over a detail of > that location. Look at the bottom of your screen and > write down the latitude and longitude of your location > (your cursor). You can write all those coordinates in > a text file on your mobile.
> For example, compare the places of this list on Google > Earth on PC and on Google Maps for mobile. You can > make a copy/paste of these coordinates.
> Pink rabbit in mountains > N 44 14 39.63, E 07 46 11.16 > Mickey Mouse smiling > N 48 48 19.71, E 02 07 03.99 > 2 people playing tennis > N 42 21 47.14, W 71 06 46.49 > Eiffel tower > N 48 51 30.93, E 02 17 40.50
> If you apply identical levels of zoom on both Google > applications, the Plan View or Satellite View will be > the same.
> If you don't have Google Earth on PC
> You can also extract coordinates from a version for > Google Maps on PC adapted by InfoSports at this > address.
Like you, me and many others, we were hoping that Google will develop in near future "the missing link". A GMM version that will integrate GPS. I dont think anymore that Google will do it for those reasons. The actual version integrate already, a lots of technologies. Ex:
1.GMM is available on the WEB using a PC, a mobile PDA like HP, Palm.../ a mobile Phone like Nokia, Sony-Ericsson.../ OS operating system like Window mobile, XP, Java.../ cell phone network like Rogers, Bell, Sprint, Orange.../ Google servers of data containing, processing, distributing in real time (georeferenced) Maps, photos, satellites images, traffic data, directions, Google Local (Points of Interest) and Yellow pages) Maintaining constant upgrade of data and software in North America and Europe. AND ALL THAT, FOR FREE!!!
2. "The missing link " Positionning the phone in real time on the map
3 systems available: "American GPS" and 2 equivalents "European GALILEO" and "Russian GLONASS" GPS using Bluetooth technology like Garmin, Magellan.../ GPS Integrated in PDA or Cell Phone like HP, Nokia.../ Also the GPS of the future called (Assisted GPS) A-GPS already incorporated on many cell phone like Samsung.../ also called Enhanced 911 (E911) using technology like Global Locate.../
In reading paragraphe no.2, we see now, how great is the task to integrate "the missing link "in one little cell phone with all those different brand name and technologies in GPS. I am amazed what Google have already done and I know why Google have distribute for free the API of GMM. This is an invitation to the hardware and software developper to take responsability and to adapte GMM to their own equipment.
If we are already capable to copy/paste a coordinate (lat/lon) from a text file to GMM, it is also very simple to copy/paste a coordinate from a GPS receiver to GMM.
GMM as already that quality to receive a coordinate.
Because each GPS receiver as its own operating software, the missing link has to be adapted to Each brand of GPS.
The best people to do this job, are the ones who have develop the GPS operating software.
> Because each GPS receiver as its own operating software, > the missing link has to be adapted to Each brand of GPS.
Not true, there is mostly only one GPS protocol. The reason why Google maps do not enable the use of GPS is political.
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[mailto:Google-Maps-for-mobile@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gazoo Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:54 PM To: Google Maps for mobile Subject: Re: How to use a GPS with Google Maps for mobile
If we are already capable to copy/paste a coordinate (lat/lon) from a text file to GMM, it is also very simple to copy/paste a coordinate from a GPS receiver to GMM.
GMM as already that quality to receive a coordinate.
Because each GPS receiver as its own operating software, the missing link has to be adapted to Each brand of GPS.
The best people to do this job, are the ones who have develop the GPS operating software.
One more point of view regarding the implementation of GPS support to GMM: There are devices that connect both to the internet AND to the GPS device via bluetooth. Since the device cannot connect to more than one BT device at the same time, there should be a kind of port-sharing or time-sharing established. Eg. route planning and navigation on such devices could work like: 1) connect to BT GPS, get position, disconnect 2) connect to Google, send position and destination info 3) choose destination among result hits, send OK to Google 4) Google calculates route, sends it back to the device along with the surrounding maps 5) disconnect from Google, connect with GPS, start navigating locally, on the device (should You leave the route, the process starts from the beginning)
I agree with you that the real problem is not technical but rather political and financial. There is at this moment a lot of movement between the developpers of hardware, software and georeferenced data. They want to find their right place in this new and huge market of geomatics.
Using a integrated or external (bluetooth) GPS you can see your own position on a map (Google, Yahoo, MSN or Ask). The main feature is, however, that while logged in to the NavXS service, you can share your position with others in real time. Thus, you can see how your configured contacts are moving about and exchange instant messages for free (data traffic fees might apply). Quite practical for impromtu meetings in unfamiliar parts of town ;-)
Oh, and there is a web client that that you can use while at home or work etc.
> Like you, me and many others, we were hoping that > Google will develop in near future "the missing link". > A GMM version that will integrate GPS. > I dont think anymore that Google will do it > for those reasons. The actual version integrate > already, a lots of technologies. Ex:
> 1.GMM is available on the WEB using a PC, > a mobile PDA like HP, Palm.../ > a mobile Phone like Nokia, Sony-Ericsson.../ > OS operating system like Window mobile, XP, Java.../ > cell phone network like Rogers, Bell, Sprint, Orange.../ > Google servers of data containing, processing, > distributing in real time (georeferenced) Maps, > photos, satellites images, traffic data, directions, > Google Local (Points of Interest) and Yellow pages) > Maintaining constant upgrade of data and software > in North America and Europe. > AND ALL THAT, FOR FREE!!!
> 2. "The missing link " > Positionning the phone in real time on the map
> 3 systems available: > "American GPS" and 2 equivalents > "European GALILEO" and "Russian GLONASS" > GPS using Bluetooth technology like Garmin, Magellan.../ > GPS Integrated in PDA or Cell Phone like HP, Nokia.../ > Also the GPS of the future called (Assisted GPS) A-GPS > already incorporated on many cell phone like Samsung.../ > also called Enhanced 911 (E911) using technology > like Global Locate.../
> In reading paragraphe no.2, we see now, how great is the > task to integrate "the missing link "in one little cell phone > with all those different brand name and technologies in GPS. > I am amazed what Google have already done and I know > why Google have distribute for free the API of GMM. This is > an invitation to the hardware and software developper to take > responsability and to adapte GMM to their own equipment.
j2memap ( http://j2memap.landspurg.net ) is another app that provides GPS access using GoogleMap, MSN local, ask.com or other alternatives....
The app is not really focused on finding direction (I do not want to compete with big players here, even if you can partially try to get some directions) but more on other usage...
And if you are a developer, and would like to participate, you are welcome...