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 More options Jul 28 2007, 10:20 pm
From: singularity <tikut...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:20:21 +0900
Local: Sat, Jul 28 2007 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: The new Maps API ads layer: Released and ready for you to try

Hi
First, my apologies if my original post seemed more than usually ungracious
- I certainly appreciate all the hard work that has gone into this. It could
transform the economics of mashups.

I have looked at the steam-web lite page you posted - and yes, you get the
same ad. But it still means that one would have to have a different 'page'
for every category one wants relevant ads for - each with a different title,
and snippet of text.

I think ultimately there is no other solution than to allow the developer to
control the Ad context - or - if not control - at least "hint". Undoubtedly
this would lead to abuse - but Adsense has to cope with heavy abuse in its
current steam-web incarnation - so the question is whether it would lead to
MORE abuse - and that I doubt.

It is a fundamental problem: ajax websites break the relationship between
content and a URL. Adsense relies on there being a direct relationship
between content and URL to establish context.  We try to hack our way around
it by doing page refreshes that are completely unnecessary except as a way
of giving the desired context to Adsense.

My website has about 10000 "pages" (as in 10,000 URLs) . 9999 of them are
completely unnecessary. I could do the same thing with ajax through one URL.
They are there - essentially - for the adsense crawler. (This is not to say
they are redundant - they are used heavily - just that they could have been
implemented through one URL)

I do look forward to any hints and tips about how to show context without
page refreshes to different URLs (with their different title tags)

V.

On 29/07/07, pamela (Google Employee) <api.pamela...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi all-
> Thanks for the input, please keep it coming. Let me clarify that I
> haven't actually tried removing the extra hotels paragraph on my page
> to see if I'll get the same ads. Another demo without the paragraph is
> here: http://imagine-it.org/google/gmaps-samples/adslayer
> /adslayer_lesstext.html
> So far, I'm seeing the same ads. But I agree with you that there
> should be a way to keep sites web2.0 and still informative to the
> Googlebot. I'll try to get an answer for you on that issue.

> If anyone tries this out and puts together a demo page (hopefully for
> something other than hotels), please post a link so we can check out
> what ads you're getting.

> Thanks! - pamela

> On Jul 28, 3:43 am, the1geek <the1g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like your idea McTone!

> > ~newton

> > On Jul 28, 3:27 am, "mcto...@googlemail.com" <mcto...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:

> > > Picking up on singularity's point, imho it would be good to dispense
> > > with the googlebot altogether and implement a keyword parameter into
> > > GAdsManager to decide which ads are displayed.

> > > var adsManagerOptions = {
> > > maxAdsOnMap: 10,
> > > keywords: "hotels,restaurants,bars"

> > > };

> > > GAdsManager(map,  publisherId,  adsManagerOptions)

> > > That way developers can have greater control over the ads, depending
> > > on what the user is doing on their site. More targeted ads can only be
> > > better for both parties as relevant links get clicked!

> > > my $0.02, tones- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -


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