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pamela (Google Employee)  
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From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:52:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 12:52 am
Subject: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"
Hey folks-- I know we've had a lot of issues lately with folks
misinterpreting the posting guidelines. So I've pasted the current
guidelines into a page, and I'm hoping to see what you folks can come
up with. (Maybe we should completely redo the format and turn it into
a strict list of Dos/Donts, for example).
Thanks!

Click on http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/web/suggested-posting-...
- or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
work.


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suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 3) by warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
Discussion subject changed to "Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines" by Abe J Dawson
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From: Abe J Dawson <jeb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:49:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 10:49 am
Subject: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Pamela,

I am a new joinee to this group and am realy disappointed with the
response for my posts


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From: Rossko <ros...@culzean.clara.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 11:06 am
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines

> I am a new joinee to this group and am realy disappointed with the
> response for my posts

That's a fair enough expression of your feelings, but perhaps you
could really help improve the posting guidelines a bit for yourself
and for others...

Did you not find the existing posting guidelines, or were they not
clear about how they might apply to the problem you had/have?

Did the posting guideline mislead you about how speedy, accurate or
complete the responses might be?  Should there be something in the
guidelines to warn you about whatever disappointed you?  Was there
something in the guidelines that could have helped avoid
disappointment if it were highlighted to you?

Is there anything specific that you should be added to the guidelines
to help new group users? Or to modify their expectations?

cheers, Ross K


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Barry Hunter  
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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:14:19 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 11:14 am
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
The document linked on the guidelines has a good introduction
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
even if you don't read the whole document, the intro is a must (IMHO)

<dons tin hat>
I still think this:
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/msg/ae6ffa18b66f5ee5
should be part of the posting guidelines! :-p

<ducks and runs...>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Abe J Dawson <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pamela,

> I am a new joinee to this group and am realy disappointed with the
> response for my posts

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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 27, 4:49 pm, Abe J Dawson <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pamela,

> I am a new joinee to this group and am realy disappointed with the
> response for my posts

- You only made your first post to this group 7 hours ago, and you
posted twice on the same issue.
- You cross posted to 2 groups.
- You asked people to write code for you.
- You asked a basic javascript question that does not belong in this
forum.
- you posted a long code dump and no link to your map.
- You call people "friends" even though you never been here before.

And you complain about the responses?

This forum is for programmers. If you cannot read and understand the
posting guidelines I suggest you hire someone who can.

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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:10:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 27, 5:14 pm, "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> I still think this:http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/msg/ae6ffa18b66f5ee5
> should be part of the posting guidelines! :-p

> <ducks and runs...>

I second that!

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suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 4) by marcelo
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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 27, 5:14 pm, "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> I still think this:http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/msg/ae6ffa18b66f5ee5
> should be part of the posting guidelines! :-p

> <ducks and runs...>

Barry,

It's done. :-)

<ducks and runs in a different direction to split the lynching
mob ...>

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suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 5) by marcelo
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From: Garthan <lance...@inetnebr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Hey if you are running from the mob... who will man the artillery....
dang it.

Pamela, it may seem like we are not taking it seriously but there is a
lot of frustration
to release I think.

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:27:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
That's fine. I checked out the page and noticed formatting has been
added. Should we keep the posting guidelines a wiki, to take advantage
of the fact that it can be formatted? I can link to it in a sticky
post.

- pamela


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From: Garthan <lance...@inetnebr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"
How about making the posting guidelines a little less avoidable ...
when somebody
signs up for a group it should be on the first message.

and perhaps in the footer of the posts.

On Aug 26, 11:52 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela....@gmail.com>
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Garthan  
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From: Garthan <lance...@inetnebr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"
I meant a link to it in the footer...

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From: Ralph Ames <ralph.a...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:38:15 +0300
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Subject: RE: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"

>How about making the posting guidelines a little less avoidable ...
>when somebody
>signs up for a group it should be on the first message.

Yes, good idea, and maybe also have a check box at the bottom that
affirms their agreement to the posting guidelines, before they can join the
Group.

Ralph


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From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:41:12 -0700
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Subject: Re: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"
I've asked for changes like that, but it requires a backend change in
Groups, so it will take a while.
We need to figure out the best approach given the current setup of Groups.


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suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 6) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
Discussion subject changed to "Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines" by Barry Hunter
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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:43:33 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines

Ah, see what you mean :) - missed the message about it being a page in
the wiki - I've done some minor (formatting mainly) changes too.

> <ducks and runs in a different direction to split the lynching
> mob ...>

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> --

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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 27, 8:27 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Should we keep the posting guidelines a wiki, to take advantage
> of the fact that it can be formatted?

Pamela,

The problem about keeping them as a wiki for too long is that some
"funny guy" could just click 'edit' and write "PLZ post a big fat code
dump, and no link to the top secret sites"

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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 27, 8:02 pm, Garthan <lance...@inetnebr.com> wrote:

> Hey if you are running from the mob... who will man the artillery....
> dang it.

Hehe. I like that!
I'll try to run in a circle and get back to where I started from. ;-)

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From: Garthan <lance...@inetnebr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page "Suggested Posting Guidelines"
I would think other groups would want an appropriate
custom welcome message....for us this qualifies as
almost vital.

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:43:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
I can set it to managers only editable once it's at a reasonable
state. That would give permission to me and the current spam
moderators (Andrew, Barry, John) to tinker with.


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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:19:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
How about changing the font color/style (red and bold) for that
sticky?

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:30:32 -0700
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Hi Grok -

There are no styling options for sticky. It's just a checkbox.

- pamela


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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Just had a coffee (and brandy) with a local Oracle guru. Arto.

He said that 'Do you think that is a new phenomenom?' We had to split
our forums to categories before www was invented.


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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines

Categories:

#1] I don't get my first map to the position I want. Markers would be
nice too.

#2] What is the parameter that 'reportpointhook' event returns?


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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:19:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Marcelo

I could call people as Friends...Mind your words what you have replied
for me...Thats my rights to call people as Friends or Folks or
Chaps....

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From: marcelo <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
On Aug 29, 2:19 pm, Abe J Dawson <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Marcelo

> I could call people as Friends...Mind your words what you have replied
> for me...Thats my rights to call people as Friends or Folks or
> Chaps....

Yes, you can. And you can also double post, cross post, post a code
dump, post no link, etc. All of which you have done.

But then don't complain about poor answers!

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From: Abe J Dawson <jeb...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 8:52 am
Subject: Re: Discussion on suggested-posting-guidelines
Hi Marcelo,

I dint ask anyone to write code for me....Since am a Programmer
in .NET Platform, I dont need to hire anyone...Mind your words once
again...If anyone does'nt know answer for my question, just you shut
up..Thats it...

Jai Hind!!!

Abe

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suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 8) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 9) by warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 10) by warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 11) by warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 12) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 13) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 14) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 15) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 16) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 17) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 18) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 19) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 20) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 21) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 22) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 23) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 24) by barryhunter [Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 25) by warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 26) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 27) by pamela (Google Employee)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 28) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 29) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 30) by barryhunter (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 31) by barryhunter (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 32) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 33) by barryhunter (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 34) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 35) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 36) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 37) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 38) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 39) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 40) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 41) by barryhunter (Maps API Guru)
suggested-posting-guidelines was changed (view version 42) by Andrew Leach (Maps API Guru)
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