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Alex Thomson  
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 More options Jun 30 2005, 12:28 pm
From: "Alex Thomson" <abthom...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:28:08 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jun 30 2005 12:28 pm
Subject: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
I've placed a bunch of markers on a map of Europe on both sides of the
prime meridian.  However, when in satellite mode, only markers on one
side of the meridian are displayed.  When zoomed all the way out, it's
clear that the other markers are being displayed, but are not being
wrapped
properly.

Has anyone else noticed this or figured out a way around it?  I suspect
it's a bug as it doesn't happen in map mode.

-Alex


 
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Bret Taylor  
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 More options Jun 30 2005, 1:22 pm
From: Bret Taylor <btay...@google.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:22:06 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jun 30 2005 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
This is an (embarassing) bug, and we are working on it.  I will keep
you posted when it is fixed.

Bret Taylor
Product Manager, Google Maps

On 6/30/05, Alex Thomson <abthom...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Endico  
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 More options Jul 3 2005, 2:58 pm
From: "Endico" <end...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:58:24 -0000
Local: Sun, Jul 3 2005 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
This happens in map mode too but on the other side of the world. The
map view is centered on the prime meridian but the satellite view is
centered on 180 degrees latitude. I noticed this because i'm mapping
earthquakes. In map mode not all the quakes between new zealand and
fiji show up at the same time because they're on opposite sides of the
180 meridian.

 
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Crack Head  
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 More options Jul 9 2005, 5:47 pm
From: "Crack Head" <crackh...@twistedpairrecords.com>
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:47:51 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 9 2005 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
I am not sure I understand this problem, as I have not seen a working
case, but are you using the "-" for west degrees, and + when needed for
the opposite side if the globe. It might help? Dont know if anyone has
tried it.

Also, dont switch the lat and long when calling it, if you put them in
opposite places, it puts the marker on the opposite side of the globe.
It seems that google maps likes the west coordinates first then the
northern coordinates. EX: -79.12345,39.12345


 
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Endico  
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 More options Jul 10 2005, 9:44 pm
From: "Endico" <end...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:44:50 -0000
Local: Sun, Jul 10 2005 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
here's a working case

1. go to this url
http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html

2. press the alaska tab to zoom in on quakes in the aleutian islands.

3. switch back and forth between satellite view and map view.  In
satellite view there are markers along the aleutian islands all the way
to the kamchatcka peninsula in russia. In map mode, a bunch of markers
on the left side of the map disappear. These are quakes to the west of
the 180 degree meridian. If you drag the map a little bit to the right
the markers to the east of the meridian disappear and the ones on the
west side appear.


 
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Endico  
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 More options Jul 23 2005, 4:21 am
From: "Endico" <end...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:21:58 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 23 2005 4:21 am
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
Things are broken worse than ever.

As I mentioned before, the edge of the map view was at 180 degrees
latitude and at 0 degrees for the satellite view. If you're viewing a
map containing an edge you'll only be able to view markers on one side
or the other of the edge. The way to work around this was to switch to
the other view where the singularity happened in a different place.

In the last day or two though, the satellite view was changed and now
its edge is at 180 degrees latitude just like the map view. This is
teriffic for people in the UK who can now view markers in all three
views but now the pacific is permenantly broken with no workaround. I
hope this isn't the fix that Bret promised earlier and that googlers
are still working on a permenant solution.

Here's another test case.

1. go to
http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html?lat=180&lon=0&type=sa...

2. note how all the markers are on the right half ot the map. One might
be inclined to think that there were no quakes in asia this week.
3. drag the map a bit to the right.
4. notice how all the markers in the western hemisphere disappear and
new ones magically appear in asia.

The effect is more subtle here since there are less missing markers (in
hawaii and the aleutian islands) and you have to drag the map a lot
further before you accidentally notice the missing markers show up.
http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html?lat=162&lon=38&type=m...

and here's another spot
http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html?lat=180&lon=-25&type=...


 
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Jef Poskanzer  
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 More options Jul 23 2005, 2:35 pm
From: "Jef Poskanzer" <jef.poskan...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:35:23 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 23 2005 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian

>but now the pacific is permenantly
>broken with no workaround.

I thought of a workaround, but I'm not sure you'll like it: add each
marker three times, at longitude x, x+360, and x-360.  One additional
trick you'll want to use is to have the left and right copies pop up
their info boxes on the center copy; without that, the map does some
auto-recentering-fu after popup events that can cause the info box to
disappear.

Here's an example of the idea: http://www.acme.com/jef/tmp/maptest.html


 
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Endico  
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 More options Jul 26 2005, 1:22 pm
From: "Endico" <end...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:22:21 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 26 2005 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Markers, satellite mode, and the prime meridian
Thanks Jef,

You're right. I'm not terribly fond of that. I already have a lot of
markers and I'm not excited about tripling that number. Also, I'd like
to be able to zoom the map out all the way and seeing all the extra
markers is pretty distracting.  But its hard to argue with something
that works. Maybe I'll see how hard it is to mask off the extra copies
of the map so only the middle 360 degress displays at any one time.

If I'm going to all that trouble, maybe it would be easier to change
the coordinate system of the map and move the anomaly back to the prime
meridian. In my case, this would probably be fine since there aren't
too many quakes around 0 degrees.


 
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