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pamela  
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(8 users)  More options Jan 21 2007, 3:03 am
From: "pamela" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:03:48 -0000
Local: Sun, Jan 21 2007 3:03 am
Subject: New to the group? Read this first!
Just a few things to know before you post to the group:

- There are some issues with the spam filtering on new topics posted to
the group through the web interface. A portion of messages are marked
as possible spam and require moderator approval before posting. So, if
you post through the web interface and do not see your message
immediately, please be patient and wait at least 12 hours before
attempting to post again (especially if you're posting at night, PST).
Or, alternatively, send your message by email to:
Google-Maps-API@googlegroups.com

- Many issues/questions are common and have been answered before. Do a
search in the forum for your question/error (e.g. "removing markers" or
"error: a has no properties"), and you're likely to find threads with
relevant answers. Also, check the Google Maps API documentation,
frequently asked questions, and terms of use.

--------------------------------------------

If you're reporting an error with your webpage:

- Please post a link to your code online. Pasting code is fine to
highlight the section you've got questions about, but most people will
not debug the problem unless you provide a URL to the code online.
Upload to Google Pages if you're worried about uploading to your
company's server or if you have no server.

- Please describe the OS and browser version that you're experiencing
errors in (e.g. Mac, Safari)

- If you're new to debugging JavaScript, consider using Firefox's Error
Console (under Tools menu) or for more extensive debugging, download
the Firebug plug-in for Firefox. If you don't understand the meaning of
the error in the console, report it in your post.

------------------------------------------

Happy Mapping :)


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arena  
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(2 users)  More options Jan 21 2007, 5:33 am
From: "arena" <andre.ren...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:33:48 -0800
Local: Sun, Jan 21 2007 5:33 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
I am sure you will consider that online documentation needs a little
review due to all the repeated posts on the same subjects.

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pamela  
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 More options Jan 21 2007, 5:44 am
From: "pamela" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:44:11 -0000
Local: Sun, Jan 21 2007 5:44 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
I will be looking through the posts for the common coding errors that
result from errors in the sample code or failures of the documentation
to detail the proper way to do something.

If there are particular issues that you'd like addressed/prioritized,
please post them (in a new thread, preferably, to keep this one short
and to the point).

Thanks for the help!


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marcelo  
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(1 user)  More options Jan 23 2007, 11:04 am
From: "marcelo" <marcelo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:04:30 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 23 2007 11:04 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
arena,

You're saying that "because questions are asked, the documentation must
be bad"

I'd say that "because questions are answered, the documentation must be
good" :-)

Marcelo
http://maps.forum.nu
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mapperz@googlemail.com  
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(2 users)  More options Jan 27 2007, 3:31 pm
From: "mapp...@googlemail.com" <mapp...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:31:56 -0800
Local: Sat, Jan 27 2007 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Can this post be hightlighted in 'Bold' Font and in Red?

Some are still missing the reading of the 'Guidelines'  which are
there for all users.

>>>>"Please post a link to your code online" <<<< (in bigger letters please)

mapperz
http://mapperz.blogspot.com/

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Jan 28 2007, 12:02 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:02:37 -0800
Local: Sun, Jan 28 2007 12:02 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
I've been experimenting with that message. Check it now.

On Jan 27, 12:31 pm, "mapp...@googlemail.com" <mapp...@googlemail.com>
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mapperz@googlemail.com  
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 More options Jan 29 2007, 3:29 am
From: "mapp...@googlemail.com" <mapp...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:29:32 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 29 2007 3:29 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Thanks, hope that works!

Mapperz
http://mapperz.blogspot.com/

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warden  
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 More options Jan 29 2007, 5:59 pm
From: "warden" <webmas...@diochi.org.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:59:54 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 29 2007 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!

> Need help with an error in your code? If so, please provide a link to
> your page.

Or even:

"If you think you have an error in your code or even the API itself,
please provide a link to your page with details of how to reproduce
the problem. Don't post code in the Group."

Andrew


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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 2:30 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:30:56 -0800
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 2:30 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Ok, I'm trying out Andrew's variant now.
Now, who's going to collect stats on which welcome message produces
the least amount of posted code? ;)

Thanks for your suggestions, all.


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neo  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 11:47 am
From: "neo" <MATR...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:47:54 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 11:47 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!

pamela wrote:
> Just a few things to know before you post to the group:

.
I just want to know how you got email address with @google.com. I
always wanted email address n...@google.com. Will you please sign up on
my behalf and send password, login page url to me?

I will show it to everyone to impress. I will be superstar.

In return, I will give you one gmail invite, free.


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OneMap  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 11:48 am
From: "OneMap" <vpo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:48:03 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 11:48 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Hi Pamela,
I have had a look around for recent threads discussing ideas for
improvement... i cant find anything recent. am i being blind?

I have a specific query which is. is there a road map for development.
which us developers can use to gauge roughly how long we have to wait
till certain functionality is available? or a forum to suggest
improvements/additions which would make the api more useful? didnt
wanna start a thread for it, but I need to use the marker manager in
an app im developing but until theres a remove marker function it
doesnt really do it for me. Specifically for me now could you give any
info about if/when this might arrive?

Kind Regards
Vince


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OneMap  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 11:51 am
From: "OneMap" <vpo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:51:23 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 11:51 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
With regard the welcome message, I didnt have a clue what you were
talking about. It only occurs on the 'home' section of the group
pages.. there isnt any way to display on which ever page you first
enter the group through is there? I for one never come via the google-
maps-api group I click through to an article specifically from an rss
feed. Therefore I miss the benefit of such welcome messages.

But nice wording :o)

Vince

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Jacob  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 12:07 pm
From: "Jacob" <jacob.reim...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:07:51 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
and Pamela, make sure he gets the paycheck that comes with the email
address! :-D

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 7:56 pm
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:56:29 -0800
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
How to get an @google.com address:
http://www.google.com/jobs/
Please apply.

Even with this address, I haven't managed to convince my friends that
I'm a superstar. Sigh.

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Jan 30 2007, 8:06 pm
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:06:54 -0800
Local: Tues, Jan 30 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Hi Vince,
I don't have any way of getting that welcome message on the
discussions page.
The hope is that newbies are linked to the group from the GMaps
Documentation page,
and that they are greeted with the welcome message, and that non-
newbies are familiar with our ways here.

Re the road map, that's a valid question. Google generally doesn't pre-
announce feature additions to the API.
If we did, and developers started building with the assumption such
features would exist, but then we were unable to release the features
on schedule/ever, then developers would be quite angry.
It seems better that you develop based on what you know to absolutely
exist now.

I am actively monitoring the group and sending in the most common bugs/
features requests (such as the MarkerManager remove) . I'll update the
group when I can re the status of such requests, but often I can't say
anything official for reasons I gave above.

If you'd like to discuss bugs/feature requests, just start a new
thread. I try and read every message.
Thanks for the feedback.
-Pamela

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mikeyb  
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 More options Jan 31 2007, 3:27 am
From: "mikeyb" <mike.be...@stroud.gov.uk>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:27:15 -0800
Local: Wed, Jan 31 2007 3:27 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
I do think that the welcome message "If you think there is an error in
your code or even the API itself..." would be much more useful on the
"Start a new discussion" page, if that is at all possible.

But I do like the new groups, job well done :-)


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mikeyb  
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 More options Jan 31 2007, 3:55 am
From: "mikeyb" <mike.be...@stroud.gov.uk>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:55:11 -0800
Local: Wed, Jan 31 2007 3:55 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Oh yes, one thing.
Long links that get wrapped get cut off and no longer work.

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Jacob  
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 More options Feb 6 2007, 4:54 am
From: "Jacob" <jacob.reim...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:54:30 -0000
Local: Tues, Feb 6 2007 4:54 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
How do I see the topics I've starred? In the previous web interface I
could click something like 'My starred topics' and there would also be
a list of recent activity in the topics I had starred. I can still see
the stars next to the threads, but how do I access the ones I have
starred??

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Barry Hunter  
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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:07:28 +0000
Local: Tues, Feb 6 2007 5:07 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!

On 2/6/07, Jacob <jacob.reim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How do I see the topics I've starred? In the previous web interface I
> could click something like 'My starred topics' and there would also be
> a list of recent activity in the topics I had starred. I can still see
> the stars next to the threads, but how do I access the ones I have
> starred??

Click 'Favorites' in the top right navigation bar, it seems to list stared
topics from all groups.

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Jacob  
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 More options Feb 6 2007, 5:11 am
From: "Jacob" <jacob.reim...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:11:04 -0000
Local: Tues, Feb 6 2007 5:11 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
Thanks.

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From: "RGB World" <d...@rgbworld.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:08:05 -0800
Local: Sat, Feb 10 2007 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!
It is nearly impossible not to post code in an API discussion.
Just my 2 cents. I will be trying not to though.

It's like going swimming without getting wet

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Barry Hunter  
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From: "Barry Hunter" <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:09:39 +0000
Local: Sun, Feb 11 2007 5:09 am
Subject: Re: New to the group? Read this first!

OK maybe it should be don't ONLY paste code, just always include a link to
the map. (in fact this is what is said in the first message!)

There are lots of valid reasons to post code, eg server side code, a bit of
code to highlight where you think the problem is, a bit of code you are
contributing (eg a fix for a page - if simple then can just be the fixed
line rather than a whole fixed page)

But long experience of this group has shown that JUST a message of code (or
worse just a snippet), unless it's a very simple mistake (that the mind's
Javascript parser can see) its very easy to miss something else relevent,
these is so much more to creating a successful web page than just code.

If you haven't seen it one of these posts by maps.huge.info, sums it up
nicely
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/browse_thread/thread/8...

On 2/11/07, RGB World <d...@rgbworld.com> wrote:

> It is nearly impossible not to post code in an API discussion.
> Just my 2 cents. I will be trying not to though.

> It's like going swimming without getting wet

--
Barry

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