AMD64, Ubuntu Feisty, Picasa 2.2.2820-5, will NOT launch
jasp...@gmail.com
AMD64 with Ubuntu Feisty 7.04
Picasa 2.2.2820-5 (Wine supplied with Picasa)
I've installed the IA32 libs with this snippet of info:
sudo su - (or simply log in as root)
aptitude update
aptitude -y install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32
then, having manually downloaded the deb file to my desktop, I issue
the following command in terminal:
sudo dpkg --install --force-architecture picasa_2.2.2820-5_i386.deb
All is well, Picasa installs, but will it launch? Hell no. Something
is drawn on the screen and immediately disappears.
I've since deleted the ~/picasa folder hidden in my home folder, but
still no cigar, Picasa simply will not launch.
I've tried this:
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper notepad
Nothing, notepad does not launch
I've also tried this:
winedebug=1 picasa > picasa.log 2>&1
and all I end up with is a file called "picasa.log" in my home
directory zero bytes in size.
Something lends me to think Wine isn't running as it should...
However, coming from a windoze background of 18 years in Ubuntu world,
*yesterday*, getting around a *nix system is taking some getting used
to.
Ideally, some kind soul would take mercy on the errors of my ways now
I've seen the *nix light, and would offer a step by step idiots guide
to debugging my wine/picasa install :)
TIA
dank
> [excellent account of good troubleshooting snipped]
>
> winedebug=1 picasa > picasa.log 2>&1
>
> and all I end up with is a file called "picasa.log" in my home
> directory zero bytes in size.
The WINEDEBUG variable is case sensitive. Try
WINEDEBUG=1 picasa > picasa.log 2>&1
BTW what graphics card do you have?
- Dan
jasp...@gmail.com
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
No such file or directory
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
Success
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
No such file or directory
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
Success
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
No such file or directory
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
Success
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
No such file or directory
/opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine:
Success
As for graphics card, this particular AMD box has a GeForce FX 5200
card fitted.
mhenriday
(I'm also running Ubuntu 7.04 on an AMD 64 X2 machine) :
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux/t/a058c2e75805bbef?hl=en
Henri
jasp...@gmail.com
I've opened a terminal window, popped in " picasa -d " (less the ""),
terminal paused for a second or two, suggesting it was doing
something, then returned the prompt.
Clicked the Picasa icon in the quick launch panel, I still see
'something' loading quickly then disappearing :|
Re-run the WINEDEBUG as above, and I get *exactly* the same error
messages "no such file or directory" :(
Out of interest, what is the -d switch for, and what do you mean be
"prime the pump" ?
Cheers
Jason
On Jul 18, 10:02 am, mhenriday <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jaspinall, cf the discussion on this thread and see if it doesn't help
> (I'm also running Ubuntu 7.04 on an AMD 64 X2 machine) :http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux/t/a058c2e...
mhenriday
me, it doesn't seem to work for you. I am strictly an amateur when it
comes to Linux, and there are many procedures, the rationale for which
I utterly fail to understand. This leaves me at times in a position
where I am forced to simply try to «muddle through» - sometimes it
works, sometimes not. As I indicated above, downloading Picasa and
then forcing the architecture in the manner outlined by haras in the
other thread, worked for me. As to the command «picasa -d», that was
something I learned, mutatis mutandi, from another poster to the
Ubuntu fora, when I was having difficulty launching my SCIM programme.
By executing «scim -d», I was able to enable SCIM to load on bootup,
something which had not worked with the command «scim», but I can't
really say (I have searched for but failed to find an explanation)
what «-d» does. If you find out, please send me a heads-up ; I really
would like to know more about what I'm doing in the CLI !...
Back to your problem. Although I can't provide a rational explanation
for it, I do know what I should do in your position - uninstall and
then reinstall Picasa, following the procedure above. Can't guarantee
that it'll work, but you're welcome to try, and I'm sure I shall not
be the only one to interest himself in the results....
Henri
On Jul 18, 11:17 am, "jaspin...@gmail.com" <jaspin...@gmail.com>
wrote:
jasp...@gmail.com
prove troublesome if I don't remove all traces of the application from
wherever it hides in the file system :|
Being a bit green when it comes to Linux...getting the application off
manually might do more harm that good!
Shame Google only compiled the code in i386 flavour :( Seems reading
elsewhere, lots of folk enjoy using Picasa, so long as it's not an
AMD64 box!
dank
wrote:
> Bingo, an output finally from the debugger:
>
> /opt/picasa/bin/wrapper: line 256: /opt/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine: No such file or directory
So, does the file /opt/picasa/wine/bin/wine exist?
jasp...@gmail.com
> So, does the file /opt/picasa/wine/bin/wine exist?
Nope, /opt/picasa/wine/bin exists however, and inside there are
windowsey looking files (notepad.exe, regedit.exe) plus wine files
(winemine, winepath, winconsole etc etc).
So it is a path error then... How/where do I fix this?
dank
> > So, does the file /opt/picasa/wine/bin/wine exist?
>
> Nope, /opt/picasa/wine/bin exists however, and inside there are
> windowsey looking files (notepad.exe, regedit.exe) plus wine files
> (winemine, winepath, winconsole etc etc).
>
> So it is a path error then... How/where do I fix this?
Uninstall and reinstall, maybe? It's quite odd that one of the files
in the package is missing.
- Dan
jasp...@gmail.com
On Jul 19, 5:23 pm, dank <daniel.r.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uninstall and reinstall, maybe? It's quite odd that one of the files
> in the package is missing.
:O My bad! Yes, the file "wine" does exist in the path
/opt/picasa/wine/bin/wine << where the last wine is the exe
I had my "windows" hat on, thinking that was the whole path, not
thinking the last bit was actually the executable!!
So, with that in mind... Anyone else got any ideas why the WINEDEBUG
shows a missing file/path?
jasp...@gmail.com
If I run add/remove applications, the look in the graphics section,
Picasa isn't listed. Does this mean the system doesn't recognise
Picasa as being installed correctly, or, is there some other manual
process of eradicating a system completely of Picasa?
dank
> If I run add/remove applications, the look in the graphics section,
> Picasa isn't listed. Does this mean the system doesn't recognise
> Picasa as being installed correctly, or, is there some other manual
> process of eradicating a system completely of Picasa?
That one's easy. It's a known limitation in the Add/Remove Programs
program, which seems to only show things that come from the
official ubuntu repository. The app shows up properly in Synaptic;
go to System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager
and click on Graphics (non-free).
- Dan
jasp...@gmail.com
> That one's easy. It's a known limitation in the Add/Remove Programs
> program, which seems to only show things that come from the
> official ubuntu repository. The app shows up properly in Synaptic;
> go to System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager
> and click on Graphics (non-free).
Nah, nothing in computing is ever that "easy"... Looked in Synaptic
too, no such listing for Picasa :(
Given I haven't done anything other than attempt (miserably) to
install Picasa on this virgin Ubuntu box, I might just trash the
system, do a complete reinstall of the OS and start again... Extra
brownie points for me learing this linux stuff :)
andy
posting the topic was that this is a known issue, there is currently
no work around and it should be fixed in the next release. So I am
just waiting.
On Jul 23, 11:55 am, "jaspin...@gmail.com" <jaspin...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Jono
> Given I haven't done anything other than attempt (miserably) to
> install Picasa on this virgin Ubuntu box, I might just trash the
> system, do a complete reinstall of the OS and start again... Extra
> brownie points for me learing this linux stuff :)
Are you running the 64 or 32 bit version of Ubuntu? Could be a problem
there. I've got an AMD64 but run the 32 bit version of Ubuntu for more
compatibility with software and drivers.
jasp...@gmail.com
> Are you running the 64 or 32 bit version of Ubuntu? Could be a problem
> there. I've got an AMD64 but run the 32 bit version of Ubuntu for more
> compatibility with software and drivers.
Well, I had installed the 64 bit version, though I've just trashed
that system having downloaded the alternate 32bit feisty iso and
installed afresh :)
Just going to download Picasa, again!
jasp...@gmail.com
and all is well.
Just gotta hope Google have the forethought at the next build to
create an AMD64 iso!!
mhenriday
create an AMD64 iso!!»
Second the motion ! Even though it usually isn't necessary to install
32-bit Ubuntu on a 64-bit computer to install 32-bit Picasa and get it
to run as it should (see the thread to which I referred above :
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux/t/a058c2e...),
it would be a great help to us with x86_64 computers («the future of
computing»), if we could install a Picasa version with native support.
Perhaps if more of us make our presence and our desires known to
Google, the firm will respond positively ?...
Henri
On Jul 24, 12:57 pm, "jaspin...@gmail.com" <jaspin...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Jono
> «Just gotta hope Google have the forethought at the next build to
> create an AMD64 iso!!»
>
> Second the motion !
It isn't just Picasa - there is quite a bit of software and drivers
that will have trouble on 64 bit linux.
dank
> > «Just gotta hope Google have the forethought at the next build to
> > create an AMD64 iso!!»
>
> that will have trouble on 64 bit linux.
Indeed. And I don't think Wine is anywhere near supporting win64,
as gcc is not quite compatible with msvc there:
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2006-June/048758.html
So, people who are running 64 bit desktop linux,
we will do our best to make it easy for you to run 32 bit Picasa,
but we will not be releasing a native 64 bit version of Picasa for
Linux
in the near future, as it is quite difficult.
- Dan
jasp...@gmail.com
> So, people who are running 64 bit desktop linux,
> we will do our best to make it easy for you to run 32 bit Picasa,
> but we will not be releasing a native 64 bit version of Picasa for
> Linux
> in the near future, as it is quite difficult.
Out of morbid curiousity, why is it "difficult" ?
mhenriday
Google could briefly explain - or provide a link to an explanation -
the difficulties involved for those of use unfamiliar with them, I'm
sure it would help us to be patient. As it is, we x86_64 types tend to
feel discriminated....
Henri