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Dan (Google Employee)  
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(5 users)  More options Sep 12 2007, 2:41 pm
From: "Dan (Google Employee)" <api....@google.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:41:09 -0000
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2007 2:41 pm
Subject: Gadget Gurus
Hello everyone,

I thought I'd take a moment to tell you about the launch of our new
Gadget Gurus program. We've selected a few top contributors to the
Google Gadgets API Group to act as Gadget Gurus. Gadget Gurus are
easily recognizable in the group. Simply look for the word '(Guru)' at
the end of their name. Gurus will also periodically receive schwag
from Google as a sign of thanks.

Gurus will continue to post normally in the group, but are now
officially noted for their excellent contributions. The gurus were
selected based on their eagerness to participate in the group and
their advanced knowledge of the API.

The newly appointed Gurus are:

    * Justin
    * Bonstio
    * Vision Jinx
    * abowman
    * dont.spam.on.me.mt1...@gmail.com
    * Matt
    * Jerome

Google employees such as myself will continue posting normally,
alongside the gurus. Our primary focus is to help developers using the
API, and the gurus will help with that focus by continuing to help
provide knowledge and answers to those who ask. Remember that this
list isn't fixed. Gurus who stop participating may be removed, and
others who demonstrate the level of expertise and willingness to
participate may be added.

Congratulations to the new gurus!

Best,
Dan


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Bonstio (Guru)  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 12 2007, 5:28 pm
From: "Bonstio (Guru)" <bons...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:28:38 -0000
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2007 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
I'll be only too pleased to continue to contribute and help out where
I can :)

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Jerome (Guru)  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 13 2007, 12:56 am
From: "Jerome (Guru)" <jerome.mou...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:56:15 -0700
Local: Thurs, Sep 13 2007 12:56 am
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Thanks Dan,

This is a great pleasure to be Guru-ified. We will try to assist the
Google Gadgets API developers on this group the best we can.

Best,

Jerome

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Vision Jinx (Guru)  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 14 2007, 9:33 am
From: "Vision Jinx (Guru)" <vjn...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:33:10 -0700
Local: Fri, Sep 14 2007 9:33 am
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Thanks from me too Dan!

Glad to be part of the team also.

Cheers!
Vision Jinx

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newton andrew  
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 More options Sep 14 2007, 11:23 am
From: "newton andrew" <adverteasem...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:23:32 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 14 2007 11:23 am
Subject: Re: [Google-Gadgets-API] Re: Gadget Gurus

I'd love to see the statistics that generated these choices as a gadget --
"top 10 gurus"

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Dann (Google Employee)  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 14 2007, 2:31 pm
From: "Dann (Google Employee)" <d...@google.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:31:27 -0000
Local: Fri, Sep 14 2007 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Thanks everyone for your comments and participation!  This is
exciting, and I look forward to all your contributions!

Newton, unfortunately we don't have any stats that we can show.  The
initial set of gurus were decided on based on a number of different
criteria such as group participation, knowledge of the API,
willingness to help, written communication skills, etc.

Keep in mind that this isn't a definitive list as it may change as new
members come and go.

Cheers!

Dann

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tjharding@gmail.com  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 17 2007, 7:08 pm
From: "tjhard...@gmail.com" <tjhard...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:08:47 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 17 2007 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Now if we could just get the title links for the gadgets to work, I'd
be really happy!

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Bonstio  
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 More options Sep 28 2007, 1:39 pm
From: Bonstio <bons...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:39:59 -0000
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2007 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
A friend has recently directed my attention to the Google Maps API
group where a similar "Guru" program is being rolled out. The
equivalent thread in this forum has sparked quite a debate and, having
read it all, I think it raises some very valid points.

See http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/browse_thread/thread/0...

I'd be interested to get your take on this, Dann and also the opinions
of the other gurus :-)


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Matt (Guru)  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 28 2007, 2:05 pm
From: "Matt (Guru)" <m...@mattkruse.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:05:57 -0000
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2007 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
On Sep 28, 12:39 pm, Bonstio <bons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A friend has recently directed my attention to the Google Maps API
> group where a similar "Guru" program is being rolled out. The
> equivalent thread in this forum has sparked quite a debate and, having
> read it all, I think it raises some very valid points.
> I'd be interested to get your take on this, Dann and also the opinions
> of the other gurus :-)

My first reaction is that people are whiney complainers who make a
stink out of something that isn't really that big of a deal :)

The Maps API is probably much more active and complex than this group,
so perhaps the 1-to-1 comparison is unjustified, I don't know. I see
the "Guru" label (although perhaps somewhat embarrassing) to be a good
way for Google to delegate support of its complex services by
identifying those individuals who have a proven track record of
providing helpful and technically accurate assistance to others. It
doesn't mean I or you or anyone else necessarily has the right answer
or that we are any more qualified to answer questions than others.
It's just one way to help guide users as much as possible. I see it as
a good thing. To tear it apart and start worrying about all the
potential negatives and drawbacks and unfairness is so... typical of
anal-retentive programmers ;)

One thing I have wondered is what prevents anyone else from adding
"(Guru)" to their nickname? Is this policed somehow? The label of
"Guru" feels a bit presumptuous to me, but again it's not that big of
a deal to me.

Matt Kruse


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String (Guru)  
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 More options Sep 30 2007, 3:52 am
From: "String (Guru)" <sterling.ud...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:52:11 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2007 3:52 am
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
On Sep 28, 7:05 pm, "Matt (Guru)" <m...@mattkruse.com> wrote:

> One thing I have wondered is what prevents anyone else from adding
> "(Guru)" to their nickname? Is this policed somehow?

You know, Matt, I wondered the same thing. When the Guru labels
started appearing over on the Maps API group, my first thought was
that the person in question HAD just added " (Guru)" to their
nickname... I thought it a bit presumptuous, but hey, not my problem.

But in answer to your question, no, I don't think it's policed. As a
test, I just added " (Guru)" to my own nickname, and it seemed to
take. If this post appears like that, we'll know it works. Of course,
I'll remove it again once that's established, but it's a good point.

String (Fake Guru)


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abowman (Guru)  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 30 2007, 11:55 am
From: "abowman (Guru)" <abow...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:55:38 -0000
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2007 11:55 am
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Maybe people wouldn't have such an issue with it if Guru was changed
to something like Assistant, Helper, or Aide.

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Dan (Google Employee)  
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(1 user)  More options Oct 1 2007, 4:53 pm
From: "Dan (Google Employee)" <api....@google.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:53:54 -0000
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2007 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Gadget Gurus
Hello all,

The labeling of someone as a guru isn't strictly enforced by the
system, just by the Googlers watching the group posts. :)

The posters in the maps thread had concerns with the choice of "guru"
as a denotation, and that that has been echoed in this thread. Is this
something that the current gurus would like to change? I'm open to
suggestions, but would prefer if they could be sent to me by email,
rather than continuing this thread.

Thanks!

Best,
Dan

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