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Ed Gowen  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 11:38 am
From: "Ed Gowen" <ego...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:11 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 11:38 am
Subject: Gmail Wish List
I wonder if it might be appropriate to start a Gmail Wish List thread.
I have submitted several suggestions but don't know how my suggestions
would be viewed by others.  Perhaps by submitting them here, as well as
by feedback message to the Gmail Team, we can get a consensus as to
what changes would be most welcome. Just as a suggestion, if you think
well of a change mentioned here, you might want to send a feedback
message encouraging the Gmail Team to put it on the list for
consideration.

One of the things I'd like to see them add is delivery and read
confirmation both within and outside of Gmail.  Email is sometime
rather unreliable.  With other email accounts you can request a
delivery and/or read confirmation.  As I understand it, a delivery
confirmation is just a return email indicating the message made to to
the destination email server and into the recipient's inbox.  A read
confirmation indicates someone with access to the destination account
has actually looked at the message, even if only to delete it a moment
later.

Another thing I'd like is to have them change is the way options are
presented when a message is being viewed.  Right now, when you are
looking at a message, you must click on the "More options" link to have
access to the "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to
contacts list | Trash this message | Show original" links.  I'd like at
least "Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message"
available as soon as the message is displayed.  One way this could be
implemented would to have this list of links on the right side under
the "Expand All" link.  Another way would be to make the "More options"
choice either persistent so once selected it would stay selected for
any new viewed message throughout and between sessions.  Another
possibility would be to add an account options choice of either
"Display All Details for Viewed Messages" as opposed to "Minimize
Details for Viewed Messages".

My understanding is that Gmail allows attachments as long as the total
size of the message is 10 Mbytes or less.  I also understand that
executable attachments are not permitted and right now that includes
executable attachments in archive files.  I can certainly understand
limiting aggregate message size and I think it just good common sense
to block executable attachments but I'm of the opinion that zip or
other archives with executable content should be permitted and that the
handling of messages with prohibited attachments should be changed.
Right now the message is rejected and at least sometimes the sender is
notified.  I'd rather let the message through to the recipient with a
text message indicating that "One or more attachments have been deleted
from this message because they violate Gmail policy on executable
attachments or because they would cause the total message size to
exceed 10 Mbytes."

My final suggestion for the moment is to be able to sort the lists of
root messages and the results of searches.  As the number of stored
messages increases, it would be increasingly helpful to have them
sorted by Sender/Receiver or Date either ascending or descending.
Ideally you could also sort by both sender/receiver and date so the
messages would be grouped by sender/receiver but within each
sender/receiver they would be in date order.

Well, thats my list for the moment.  Anybody out there care to comment
on these or add their own pet items to the Wish List?

Regards,

Ed


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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 2:53 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:53:58 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
-more options- to display the reply ...ect links.  To me it keeps
things uncluttered.

The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
that, they will send along special info for the message in a
winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
among other things.

I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
been searched for.  That's a good idea.  I'm surprised that hasn't
been implimented yet.

About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
something...who knows right now.  To me it's not a big deal right now.
 You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
saved.  So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
the extention change...

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lee.gibbs@gmail.com  
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From: "lee.gi...@gmail.com" <lee.gi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:11:59 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Ah, T. M. Tracey - you joined Gmail-Users, cool.
I've read some of your posts on GmailForums.
I suppose sorting e-mails when searched for isn't a bad idea.
Ed's ideas seem good as well.
Just one suggestion for Gmail: I think there should be a disabling
option for Gmail not automatically adding people to your contacts
list. When you send an e-mail to someone, I find Gmail adds the
recipient's name to your contact list - with no confirmation at all.
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T. M. Tracy  
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From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:55:26 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 2:55 pm
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Something that I would like to see... is the abbility to have
different signatures for different lables.  When you reply to one
lable, it defaults a different signature.

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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 2:53 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:53:58 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
-more options- to display the reply ...ect links.  To me it keeps
things uncluttered.

The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
that, they will send along special info for the message in a
winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
among other things.

I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
been searched for.  That's a good idea.  I'm surprised that hasn't
been implimented yet.

About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
something...who knows right now.  To me it's not a big deal right now.
 You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
saved.  So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
the extention change...

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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 2:55 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:55:26 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 2:55 pm
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Something that I would like to see... is the abbility to have
different signatures for different lables.  When you reply to one
lable, it defaults a different signature.

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Kendel  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:19 pm
From: Kendel <kken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:19:10 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List

> The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
> that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
> among other things.

Depends: what you describe OE and whatnot having is a "read
confirmation" -- it gets triggered (iirc) when you read the mail.  The
mailer-daemon that handles dropping the message into your account in
the first place actually handles the delivery confirmation, as that is
when it is actually delivered.  And that shouldn't matter if it is a
webmail client or not, just if the local postmaster has the feature.

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The Other Gretchen  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:26 pm
From: The Other Gretchen <flitte...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:26:33 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
I'd like a best-of-both-worlds approach here.

I want to be able to toggle off the 'feature' where it adds contacts
willy-nilly, but I'd also like it to save those and be able to put you
into a contact-picker (with sort, even) that can browse through the
pool of possible contacts that it's built up from your mail store.

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The Other Gretchen  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:26 pm
From: The Other Gretchen <flitte...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:26:33 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
I'd like a best-of-both-worlds approach here.

I want to be able to toggle off the 'feature' where it adds contacts
willy-nilly, but I'd also like it to save those and be able to put you
into a contact-picker (with sort, even) that can browse through the
pool of possible contacts that it's built up from your mail store.

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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 3:16 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:16:08 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Yeah, that is a good option too.  there is a reason for that though.
If you send them a message, then google things that you know them and
any imcoming mail from them isn't spam.  Anything that comes in from
someone in your contact list is auto inboxed instead of spam filtered.

One thing that they should do instead...automaticly add to a
'whitelist' instead.  That way it dosen't clutter the contacts so when
you start to type in an address it shows like 40 when you type 'a'.

I really don't like the fact that it auto adds a person to your
personal contact list, but it will prolly change in the
futrue...hopefully  =p

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Kendel  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:15 pm
From: Kendel <kken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:15:05 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List

> Something that I would like to see... is the abbility to have
> different signatures for different lables.  When you reply to one
> lable, it defaults a different signature.

The problem there is when a thread matches two (or more) labels; you'd
have to set up an hierarchy system for it.

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Kendel  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:54 pm
From: Kendel <kken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:54:14 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
That's a good suggestion, a "not spam" white-list separate from the
contact list.

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The Other Gretchen  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:26 pm
From: The Other Gretchen <flitte...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:26:33 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
I'd like a best-of-both-worlds approach here.

I want to be able to toggle off the 'feature' where it adds contacts
willy-nilly, but I'd also like it to save those and be able to put you
into a contact-picker (with sort, even) that can browse through the
pool of possible contacts that it's built up from your mail store.

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Lee Gibbs  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 3:10 pm
From: Lee Gibbs <lee.gi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:10:35 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Ah, T. M. Tracey - you joined Gmail-Users, cool.
I've read some of your posts on GmailForums.
I suppose sorting e-mails when searched for isn't a bad idea.
Ed's ideas seem good as well.
Just one suggestion for Gmail: I think there should be a disabling
option for Gmail not automatically adding people to your contacts
list. When you send an e-mail to someone, I find Gmail adds the
recipient's name to your contact list - with no confirmation at all.
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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 5:59 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:59:12 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Yeah.  That's why I said instead of them adding to your personal
contact list, they should auto add to a 'whitelist' which the spam
filter can cross reference on incoming mail to help determine whether
it's spam or not.  =)

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Kendel  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 4:19 pm
From: Kendel <kken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:19:10 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List

> The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
> that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
> among other things.

Depends: what you describe OE and whatnot having is a "read
confirmation" -- it gets triggered (iirc) when you read the mail.  The
mailer-daemon that handles dropping the message into your account in
the first place actually handles the delivery confirmation, as that is
when it is actually delivered.  And that shouldn't matter if it is a
webmail client or not, just if the local postmaster has the feature.

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T. M. Tracy  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 5:59 pm
From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:59:12 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Yeah.  That's why I said instead of them adding to your personal
contact list, they should auto add to a 'whitelist' which the spam
filter can cross reference on incoming mail to help determine whether
it's spam or not.  =)

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The Other Gretchen  
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 More options Jul 30 2004, 8:17 pm
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:17:48 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
I like the whitelist as separated from contacts!

Especially if you can explicitly add someone to your whitelist, and
easily pull contacts off your whitelist onto your contact list.

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T. M. Tracy  
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From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:16:08 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Yeah, that is a good option too.  there is a reason for that though.
If you send them a message, then google things that you know them and
any imcoming mail from them isn't spam.  Anything that comes in from
someone in your contact list is auto inboxed instead of spam filtered.

One thing that they should do instead...automaticly add to a
'whitelist' instead.  That way it dosen't clutter the contacts so when
you start to type in an address it shows like 40 when you type 'a'.

I really don't like the fact that it auto adds a person to your
personal contact list, but it will prolly change in the
futrue...hopefully  =p

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T. M. Tracy  
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From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:55:51 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Yeah.  I really  hate when the auto email thinghas like 5 emails when
you start to type anthing.  Like when you go to type and address, it
shows what email address match it so far...well, since it adds
everyone to the list, it can get quit lengthy really fast.  That's why
they need to seperate it.  =)

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Christopher Orr  
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From: Christopher Orr <christopher....@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:03:31 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
A few things:

I understand Gmail's emphasis on "archiving" all mails etc, but still
a simple T = trash shortcut would be nice..

Also, while in conversation view, I'd like the option to *not* return
to the Inbox after archiving or marking a message as spam -- i.e. just
move onto displaying the next message.

Finally, out of laziness, it's annoying when you have only one mail in
your Inbox, but still you have to select it before you can archive it.
 What I'm saying is that if there's only one mail available, and you
press archive or whatever, Gmail should realise that the one message
is implicitly selected (instead of complaining "you haven't selected
any conversations").

Chris


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T. M. Tracy  
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From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:29:42 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Right.  But the daemon wouldn't have any way to find out if the
message was READ of opened.  All they could tell you is that it was
successfully delivered.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:19:10 -0400, Kendel <kken...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
> > webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
> > that, they will send along special info for the message in a
> > winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
> > among other things.

> Depends: what you describe OE and whatnot having is a "read
> confirmation" -- it gets triggered (iirc) when you read the mail.  The
> mailer-daemon that handles dropping the message into your account in
> the first place actually handles the delivery confirmation, as that is
> when it is actually delivered.  And that shouldn't matter if it is a
> webmail client or not, just if the local postmaster has the feature.

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Paparazzi  
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From: "Paparazzi" <jogygeo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:43:41 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2004 1:43 am
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
Some of the things I've wanted and which I had sent to Google are:

It would be nice to have an option to see the time a mail has been
opened.

1) An option to delete attachments manually.
Sometimes, after having sent a mail, I no longer wish to keep the
attachment in the sent folder (so to say).  I just want to keep the
write up as part of the conversation flow.  This option to rmove
attachment could be helpful for both incoming and outgoing mails.

2) An Option to send/ receive exe and zipped exe files.
Gmail says this is not allowed to reduce virii threats, but ideally,
the user should be given an option.  An advanced user could be given
within settings an option to turn it off so as to receive all kinds of
files or alternatively, specify the kind of files he/ she is willing to
take a risk with!  For eg. I could say block .pif;.scr;.bat;.vbs and
allow .zip;.exe;.txt;.doc;.xls

3) Shorter usernames
This again, Gmail says is to reduce the threat of spam.  However, I
think it would be nice that on shorter names, gmail warns the applicant
and if the applicant is willing to take the risk, be allowed to create
shorter names.  My name is for instance has just 4 characters and hence
would definitely love a cuter id.

4) Eddie in his first message in this topic mentioned receiving
feedback on status of mail. Yes, I know that Gmail cannot force mail
servers like hotmail and yahoo to send feedback, but if a mail has been
sent to another Gmail account, it would be nice if it mentions the time
the receiver opened it.  Right now, Gmail says "Received 4 hours ago"
or whaterver.  It would be nice if it told the sender "Read xxx hrs
ago" too.  This enhances the conversation style setup and would
probably make more people want to correspond between gmail accounts!

5) I also like the idea of label based Signatures :)

Cheers!

And Oh! Please..........

Lets keep our premises clean.
Preview & Remove all the unwanted tags and previous replies before
finally posting!
You folks can see how out of hand these threads are getting .... :( and
this brings me to my next wish

6) An option to turn on / off previous replies!  I just wonder why
previous replies are required specially in a mail that supports
conversation threading!


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From: "T. M. Tracy" <tmtr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:22:31 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2004 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Gmail Wish List
chris.  if you push Y and the O it will archive the message that you
are viewing and move on to the next one.  =)

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:03:31 +0100, Christopher Orr

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:53:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Gmail Wish List
Some of those are good Ed, I personaly like the way that good has the
-more options- to display the reply ...ect links.  To me it keeps
things uncluttered.

The delvery confermation...That sorta of thing isn't supported by
webmail clients that I know of.  I know in outlook and programs like
that, they will send along special info for the message in a
winmail.dat file...that's where the 'reciept for message' info is held
among other things.

I also like the idea of being able to sort the emails once they have
been searched for.  That's a good idea.  I'm surprised that hasn't
been implimented yet.

About the executable thing...That's something that they have as a
security right now...I'm sure that might impliment a scanner or
something...who knows right now.  To me it's not a big deal right now.
 You can just change the extention to a .txt and it works fine, just
have to change it back when the message is viewed and the exe is
saved.  So far I haven't seen any problems with encoding issues do to
the extention change...

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