Notice of Returned Mail is Not Spam!

[Zan Mayo Glodich]

My bellsouth email is forwarded to gmail and gmail comes to Outlook Express as POP3 mail.  The gmail spam filter usually works beautifully and keeps out almost all spam.  However, today I happened to check my spam box at the gmail website and was shocked to see that everything sent via bellsouth to any earthlink account last week was not delivered. 

 

That is information that a sender needs to know immediately, and that type of notice should never have gone into spam. 

 

Please work your magic to change that spam filter.

 

Thanks.

[Tyler Cheatham]

This is a user's group.  GMail likely does not read it, yada yada yada.  Use the report a problem link found here.... http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact=1&ctx=contact-us and report your issue following the steps.  Good luck to you.

[tempgal]

I'd LOVE to send to a problem link and have tried repeatedly to do
so. However, after the message is composed, I get no active Send
button, only some unreadable text that looks like it might have once
been a button labeled Post Message but has since been overwritten and
is not functioning.

I see that Google is still asking for silly stories from happy users
so maybe that's all they want now, no problems.

On Jul 9, 2:18 pm, "Tyler Cheatham" <tcheath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a user's group. GMail likely does not read it, yada yada yada. Use
> the report a problem link found here....http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact=1&ctx=contact-usand
> report your issue following the steps. Good luck to you.
>

> On 7/9/07, Zan Mayo Glodich <temp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > My bellsouth email is forwarded to gmail and gmail comes to Outlook
> > Express as POP3 mail. The gmail spam filter usually works beautifully and
> > keeps out almost all spam. However, today I happened to check my spam box
> > at the gmail website and was shocked to see that everything sent via
> > bellsouth to any earthlink account last week was not delivered.
>
> > That is information that a sender needs to know immediately, and that type
> > of notice should never have gone into spam.
>
> > Please work your magic to change that spam filter.
>

> > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Bill Holmes]

Hi Zan,

I disagree with you, I think these non delivery notices belong in the
spam folder. Spammers have been using bounces from clueless spam
filters for several years now.

Have a great day,
Bill

--
Me on the youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RePzYhJlcbk

Live at Clarke Plaza, Eureka CA with Guitar Danny on slide.

[tempgal]

Well, I sure hate to give up an otherwise superb email program but I
need reliability. If gmail is unable to meet that criteria and
unwilling to allow personal configuration of the spam filter, I need
to find something more responsive and/or go back to one of the anti-
spam programs that you install on your computer. I just can't risk
another recurrence of what happened last week.

Surely google doesn't care one way or another if I don't use their
free program, but it's embarrassing for me because I spoke so
enthusiastically of this program to others.

C'est la vie.

On Jul 9, 7:47 pm, "Bill Holmes" <whol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Zan,
>
> I disagree with you, I think these non delivery notices belong in the
> spam folder. Spammers have been using bounces from clueless spam
> filters for several years now.
>
> Have a great day,
> Bill
>

[Zack (Doc)]

You're welcome to leave, and should use whatever you feel is
appropriate, but learning spam filters, such as GMail's, are
personalizable as I can imagine. They will learn and adapt to exactly
what YOU think is spam. The trick to any spam filter though is to
teach it. You teach Google's by marking messages as spam or not spam.
Messages it automatically marked as spam, that you left in spam, it
believes is a job well done. You have to make the effort to watch
what it's doing.

Mine works great. Bounce messages that are legitimate are delivered,
and spammer generated ones are marked as spam. I have no problems,
but then I use the web interface as it was designed. Unfortunately,
that's the only way to access and train the spam filters, otherwise
you just get the default ones.

[tempgal]

Well, now the problem has worsened, anyway. All of a sudden nothing
is coming in to Outlook Express, as it always has. However, it is
sitting in the website Inbox. Not sure what google is doing but it is
time to bow out for a while.

On Jul 9, 10:23 pm, "Zack (Doc)" <z...@tnan.net> wrote:
> You're welcome to leave, and should use whatever you feel is
> appropriate, but learning spam filters, such as GMail's, are
> personalizable as I can imagine. They will learn and adapt to exactly
> what YOU think is spam. The trick to any spam filter though is to
> teach it. You teach Google's by marking messages as spam or not spam.
> Messages it automatically marked as spam, that you left in spam, it
> believes is a job well done. You have to make the effort to watch
> what it's doing.
>
> Mine works great. Bounce messages that are legitimate are delivered,
> and spammer generated ones are marked as spam. I have no problems,
> but then I use the web interface as it was designed. Unfortunately,
> that's the only way to access and train the spam filters, otherwise
> you just get the default ones.
>

> > > Live at Clarke Plaza, Eureka CA with Guitar Danny on slide.- Hide quoted text -

[Tyler Cheatham]

If you report your problem to Google, they will likely address it, I have never had problems with getting them to address an issue I have had, you just have to be patient.  They do take a day or two sometimes.  But you HAVE to report it.

On 7/9/07, tempgal <tem...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Bill Holmes]

Hi Zan,

Have you tried the actual link that Tyler provided?

There is a protocol that you must follow that has been discussed here
a few times.

When you file a bug report or technical issue via one of these links
you get an automated response, and you must reply once or twice to
these auto messages and include the details of your problem. You will
eventually end up communicating with a human if you are unable to
resolve your problem. This protocol has worked for me and others.

What Tyler meant about this being a users group is that this group is
not run by Google or Google employees. You will find lots of critical
posts here. There is an official Google GMail group, there is a link
to it in the help section. It is run by Google employees.

Have a nice day,
Bill

On 7/9/07, tempgal <tem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Tyler Cheatham]

Bill,

Do you have the link handy for the official Google GMail group?

[Bill Holmes]

Hi Tyler,

Yes:

http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Help-Discussion

Bill

--
Me on the youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RePzYhJlcbk

Live at Clarke Plaza, Eureka CA with Guitar Danny on slide.

[Tyler Cheatham]

Bill,

is there anyway to get each message emailed to me on that group?  Or are my only choices to get a summary email or read the group online (which I would rather do neither). 

Tyler

[Fuzzy Logic]

Those are your only choices. I've fought and lost that battle. I used
to help out there.

Fuzzy

On 7/10/07, Tyler Cheatham <tchea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is there anyway to get each message emailed to me on that group? Or are my
> only choices to get a summary email or read the group online (which I would
> rather do neither).
>

> On 7/10/07, Bill Holmes <who...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Help-Discussion

[Tyler Cheatham]

Oh well, thanks anyway!  :-D

Tyler

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