I just noticed that there are 3413 msg's in my trash folder going back
to Jan 2008. Why isn't auto delete working? I don't want to delete
all as I do refer to some once in a while that are less than 30 day s
old. How can I turn on Auto Delete
Maybe it should be working, but it isn't for me. I tried the
suggested fix (and why should there be Spam older than 30 days?), but
so far no change. How long would it take for this to work if it was
going to.
> Auto delete should be working, it cannot be turned on/off. Go to Spam
> and delete the ones that are older than 30 days, maybe that will get
> things back to normal.
> I don't know, I read this advice somewhere and now I posted it. I
> stopped deleting my spam to see if mine works but I haven't got to the
> 30 days yet.
> I just noticed that there are 3413 msg's in my trash folder going back
> to Jan 2008. Why isn't autodeleteworking? I don't want todelete
> all as I do refer to some once in a while that are less than 30 day s
> old. How can I turn on AutoDelete
Yeah, I just noticed this, too. I was wondering why the email count
in my spam folder was increasing. Turns out that there are still
emails in there going back to Feb 28.
> I just noticed that there are 3413 msg's in my trash folder going back
> to Jan 2008. Why isn't auto delete working? I don't want to delete
> all as I do refer to some once in a while that are less than 30 day s
> old. How can I turn on Auto Delete
Same here . . . currently in my Spam folder the oldest msg is from
March 1, which is 48 days old today.
I'm almost sure that Trash folder hasn't been auto-deleted recently.
For me this one is currently harder to tell, because I have recently
trashed msgs of various ages.
I've started flagging some particular msgs in Trash folder and
monitoring for how long they will remain there - before this I
wouldn't tell for sure. But I bet that, if this issue has been
confirmed in the Spam folder, most likely Trash is also affected by
it.
> > I've just read somewhere in this forum someone recommending that,
> > "delete some of your oldest mails in Trash and auto-delete will kick
> > back in".
> > Now this sounds ridiculous, but I'll give it a try nonetheless . . .
I have the same problem. In fact I found that none of my email has
ever been deleted since I opened my gmail account. I found the
welcome to gmail message was still there! This was bothering me a lot
since I started to use imap to manage my gmail account on a couple
computers. I could never figure out why there were so many messages
being downloaded when it first sync'ed the account. I finally got
tired of it and logged into gmail online and made sure I was in
"Standard View" to have access to the better selection tools. Then I
first went to my Trash folder and found several hundred messages in
there. I deleted everything by selecting 50 messages at a time until
it said there was nothing in there. Then I looked in the All Mail
folder and found that all those messages that I had just deleted from
Trash were still in there! So this time I went to my Inbox (which I
keep pretty clean) and selected all and put a star on all of those
messages. I also looked in any other folder that I keep pretty clean
like (Sent, Starred, Drafts, etc) and made sure everything had a
Star. Then I went back to the All Mail folder and deleted everything
that did not have a Star. I found it worked best to start from the
oldest and work your way to the newest since as your Starred messages
start taking up the entire 50 message window before too long. After
it looked like all Stars, I scrolled through the remaining 137
messages to make sure I really wanted to keep them all. Then I went
to the Trash folder again and found all those messages I just delted
from All Mail in there. Then I again deleted all of them 50 at a time
until it was empty. Then I again went through each folder to verify
that only the Starred messages were there and it was the correct
number.
Why does gmail make all of this SOOO HAAARRRD!?! I found one clue
during the above activities, when I delted messages from the All Mail
folder, gmail prompted me with an "Are you Sure?" message indicating
that even though it looks like there are several folders (Inbox, Sent,
Spam, etc. and I think even Trash) those are really only "views". It
turns out there is only one copy of the actual message and that is
kept in the All Mail folder. Sort of similar to a music manager where
you have all your songs in the Music library, but you have several
playlists where you see those same songs. Anyway, this is how gmail
shows you the conversations without having to have several copies of
the same message. Apparently, gmail is not smart enouph to have made
the Trash a real folder, it seems like it is just another view. That
would explain why I can empty the Trash, but still find the messages
in the All Mail folder.
this is of-topic on this particular issue but nevertheless I can tell
you this:
- all your mail is EITHER on AllMail or Spam or Trash at any
particular moment - if you think some email is or has been in both
AllMail or Trash at the same time, you might either have seen similar
emails (like a forwarded one with same subject for instance) or have
been tricked by email propagated from an IMAP client at different
times.
- IMAP settings on a desktop client might really play nasty tricks on
Gmail management (I for one have been fooled by these on Thunderbird),
so you better watch closely how you're setting up properties for
particular folders on your client. Issues will certainly quadruple if
you use 2 IMAP clients . . .
> I have the same problem. In fact I found that none of my email has
> ever been deleted since I opened my gmail account. I found the
> welcome to gmail message was still there! This was bothering me a lot
> since I started to use imap to manage my gmail account on a couple
> computers. I could never figure out why there were so many messages
> being downloaded when it first sync'ed the account. I finally got
> tired of it and logged into gmail online and made sure I was in
> "Standard View" to have access to the better selection tools. Then I
> first went to my Trash folder and found several hundred messages in
> there. I deleted everything by selecting 50 messages at a time until
> it said there was nothing in there. Then I looked in the All Mail
> folder and found that all those messages that I had just deleted from
> Trash were still in there! So this time I went to my Inbox (which I
> keep pretty clean) and selected all and put a star on all of those
> messages. I also looked in any other folder that I keep pretty clean
> like (Sent, Starred, Drafts, etc) and made sure everything had a
> Star. Then I went back to the All Mail folder and deleted everything
> that did not have a Star. I found it worked best to start from the
> oldest and work your way to the newest since as your Starred messages
> start taking up the entire 50 message window before too long. After
> it looked like all Stars, I scrolled through the remaining 137
> messages to make sure I really wanted to keep them all. Then I went
> to the Trash folder again and found all those messages I just delted
> from All Mail in there. Then I again deleted all of them 50 at a time
> until it was empty. Then I again went through each folder to verify
> that only the Starred messages were there and it was the correct
> number.
> Why does gmail make all of this SOOO HAAARRRD!?! I found one clue
> during the above activities, when I delted messages from the All Mail
> folder, gmail prompted me with an "Are you Sure?" message indicating
> that even though it looks like there are several folders (Inbox, Sent,
> Spam, etc. and I think even Trash) those are really only "views". It
> turns out there is only one copy of the actual message and that is
> kept in the All Mail folder. Sort of similar to a music manager where
> you have all your songs in the Music library, but you have several
> playlists where you see those same songs. Anyway, this is how gmail
> shows you the conversations without having to have several copies of
> the same message. Apparently, gmail is not smart enouph to have made
> the Trash a real folder, it seems like it is just another view. That
> would explain why I can empty the Trash, but still find the messages
> in the All Mail folder.
You might be right about that, I admit I didn't look too closely to
see if the messages were indeed the same. I will be keeping a more
careful eye on it from now on though.
You are also right about using imap and gmail, but I only started
using that in the last month or so. So that doesn't explain why the
gmail message management wasnt working for the several months before
that since I got my account. I think even a single imap client
doesn't work so well. For instance, using Outlook 2003 with gmail
added via an imap connection, when I delete a message from my gmail
inbox, I found that it does delete the message from the inbox, but it
does not move it to the gmail trash, the message remains in the gmail
All Mail folder. I have also tried using Windows Live mail with gmail
added via imap. That seems to work a little better than Outlook 03,
but it still has the same problem when deleting messages. I guess
until gmail can fix all of this I will just use the web interface, or
leave the imap connection so at least I know I have new mail. I just
won't be deleting messages via imap from now on.
My trash bin hasn't been deleted since about February 26th. I find it
frustrating that we don't have a way to report the problem direct to
Google. Its obviously a problem for a lot of people at the moment
dating from the same time and they should fix it.
> Same here . . . currently in my Spam folder the oldest msg is from
> March 1, which is 48 days old today.
> I'm almost sure that Trash folder hasn't been auto-deleted recently.
> For me this one is currently harder to tell, because I have recently
> trashed msgs of various ages.
> I've started flagging some particular msgs in Trash folder and
> monitoring for how long they will remain there - before this I
> wouldn't tell for sure. But I bet that, if this issue has been
> confirmed in the Spam folder, most likely Trash is also affected by
> it.
we're still off-topic here but I can't help sending you some tips
about this.
Not sure how you'd best apply this to Outlook (you'd have to to do a
lil' bit of googling), but on my Thunderbird I DON'T DELETE emails
'cause they'd go to the wrong place (not the correct Gmail's Trash
folder). I use the Nostalgy extension to easily MOVE mails to "/
[Gmail]/Trash", which IMAP points to the correct Gmail's Trash folder.
If I'd just hit "Delete" on T-Bird, the mails would go to T-Bird's
built-in "Trash" which is meaningless to Gmail's servers. Oh, and this
really might be why you were seeing stuff bothly on AllMail and on the
*false* Trash folder.
I believe that if you spend a half hour on google searching you'll
find how to correctly delete the mail in Outlook the "right" way so
that the server acts accordingly.
And BTW, don't expect Gmail to "fix" this. The way this deleting
procedure over IMAP works for Gmail has been fairly well documented
around the Internet (at least for T-Bird users). YMMV for Outlook
though . . .
> You might be right about that, I admit I didn't look too closely to
> see if the messages were indeed the same. I will be keeping a more
> careful eye on it from now on though.
> You are also right about using imap and gmail, but I only started
> using that in the last month or so. So that doesn't explain why the
> gmail message management wasnt working for the several months before
> that since I got my account. I think even a single imap client
> doesn't work so well. For instance, using Outlook 2003 with gmail
> added via an imap connection, when I delete a message from my gmail
> inbox, I found that it does delete the message from the inbox, but it
> does not move it to the gmail trash, the message remains in the gmail
> All Mail folder. I have also tried using Windows Live mail with gmail
> added via imap. That seems to work a little better than Outlook 03,
> but it still has the same problem when deleting messages. I guess
> until gmail can fix all of this I will just use the web interface, or
> leave the imap connection so at least I know I have new mail. I just
> won't be deleting messages via imap from now on.
I believe this will be eventually fixed - Google will end up noticing
this, as more people will complain and this waste of storage is not in
Google interests.
As to interacting with Google, we might have surprises on April 21 as
Google Help will move out of Google Groups into a new platform. But
I'm not holding my breath for that . . .
I am having the same problem. Spam is just sitting there and growing.
I do not like to clean manually and was hoping auto-delete will fix
it. And isn't that what Gmail says on top of the list which you click
on the spam folder. Anyway the spam counter is going up every day. I
have spam sitting since Feb 25 which is almost 55 days. Looks like
many people are facing the same issue, but Google has not noticed it.
> Maybe it should be working, but it isn't for me. I tried the
> suggested fix (and why should there beSpamolder than 30 days?), but
> so far no change. How long would it take for this to work if it was
> going to.
> On Apr 11, 12:13 am, gravi_t wrote:
> > Auto delete should be working, it cannot be turned on/off. Go toSpam
> > and delete the ones that are older than 30 days, maybe that will get
> > things back to normal.
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