I really like Google, as a company they get kudos from me, but the
lack Linux support is just not right.
Google, you are not treating the Linux community properly. If you want
your apps and features to be ported to the Linux platform, release the
source code, and hire developers who have a better idea of how Linux software is written than the people who's brilliant idea it was to
just stick Picasa into a wine container, thus making a wonderfully
performance-crippled little app. If we could get an API or source
code, then we could develop all sorts of wonderful things, and you
would then see increased market value because many millions more
people would feel confident about the motivations of your company --
who say at < http://code.google.com/apis/talk/open_communications.html
> that "Google's mission is to make the world's information
universally accessible and useful."
Where is the universality present in your dormant Linux application
development? I see no Linux Google Talk, even after patiently waiting
for 3 years. At the bottom of the same page you also state that "[you]
look forward to supporting Linux and Mac OS X in the future". Well,
hop to it, because we the "users" whom you purportedly seek to enable
instant communication for are getting cut out of the deal. Frankly,
with the kind of money that your stockholders trust you with, you're
not doing right by the open source crowd.
I apologize for the rant, but you need to step up to the plate: Chrome
should also be ported, along with any Google made application that
isn't fully POSIX native.
*nix is the future. Stay on top of your game please.
Google's mission is to make the world's information universally
accessible and useful. Google Talk, which enables users to instantly
communicate with friends, family, and colleagues via voice calls and
instant messaging, reflects our belief that communications should be
accessible and useful as well. We're committed to open communications
standards, and want to offer Google Talk users and users of other
service providers alike the flexibility to choose which clients,
service providers, and platforms they use for their communication
needs.
Where is the google monitor on this one? I just filled out the survey,
which asked:
"5. Were you aware that Google employees actively read and post in the
Gmail Help Discussion, looking for user reports of bugs and problems?
*
I see 53 posts here now, this is near the top of the list on the help
forum, but I don't see a google response on this outstanding issue.
And this isn't a question someone outside google can answer.
Where are you? What is the plan for linux support?
Back to skype for this frequent user and her parents and her
friends ... almost all of whom have gmail accounts :-(
Regrettably, I'm not inviting anyone else to get a gmail account intil
this is resolved.
> Google's mission is to make the world's information universally
> accessible and useful. Google Talk, which enables users to instantly
> communicate with friends, family, and colleagues via voice calls and
> instant messaging, reflects our belief that communications should be
> accessible and useful as well. We're committed to open communications
> standards, and want to offer Google Talk users and users of other
> service providers alike the flexibility to choose which clients,
> service providers, and platforms they use for their communication
> needs.
> </quote>
> On Nov 11, 2:34 pm, williumbillium wrote:
> > Are there any plans for the video chat to support linux?
We all know that Google would not even exist if it were not for
Linux. Google, how many hundreds of thousands of instances of Linux have you installed and taken advantage of? Now, give something back
to Linux by not neglecting it. When you create an application only
for Windows/Mac, you really put Linux at a disadvantage.
I'm normally a huge Google fan, but this kind of stuff really
frustrates me. If you're going to take from Linux, then be
responsible and give back.
> I really like Google, as a company they get kudos from me, but the
> lack Linux support is just not right.
> Google, you are not treating the Linux community properly. If you want
> your apps and features to be ported to the Linux platform, release the
> source code, and hire developers who have a better idea of how Linux > software is written than the people who's brilliant idea it was to
> just stick Picasa into a wine container, thus making a wonderfully
> performance-crippled little app. If we could get an API or source
> code, then we could develop all sorts of wonderful things, and you
> would then see increased market value because many millions more
> people would feel confident about the motivations of your company --
> who say at <http://code.google.com/apis/talk/open_communications.html> that "Google's mission is to make the world's information
> universally accessible and useful."
> Where is the universality present in your dormant Linux application
> development? I see no Linux Google Talk, even after patiently waiting
> for 3 years. At the bottom of the same page you also state that "[you]
> look forward to supporting Linux and Mac OS X in the future". Well,
> hop to it, because we the "users" whom you purportedly seek to enable
> instant communication for are getting cut out of the deal. Frankly,
> with the kind of money that your stockholders trust you with, you're
> not doing right by the open source crowd.
> I apologize for the rant, but you need to step up to the plate: Chrome
> should also be ported, along with any Google made application that
> isn't fully POSIX native.
> *nix is the future. Stay on top of your game please.
> Google's mission is to make the world's information universally
> accessible and useful. Google Talk, which enables users to instantly
> communicate with friends, family, and colleagues via voice calls and
> instant messaging, reflects our belief that communications should be
> accessible and useful as well. We're committed to open communications
> standards, and want to offer Google Talk users and users of other
> service providers alike the flexibility to choose which clients,
> service providers, and platforms they use for their communication
> needs.
> </quote>
> On Nov 11, 2:34 pm, williumbillium wrote:
> > Are there any plans for the video chat to support linux?
> > Totally agree, Linux users are the future! Please can we have a chat
> > client available for debian based (i.e. ubuntu) flavours of linux.
> > Google are so amazing, I can't believe you lack the talent to do
> > this! ;)
> > On Nov 12, 3:37 pm, Yuretsz wrote:
> > > When I will have this feature on Ubuntu?
> > > On 12 нояб, 15:27, nimo99 wrote:
> > > > 100% agree
> > > > ..
> > > > On Nov 12, 3:13 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > > > > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > > > > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > > > > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is noLinuxclient yet
> > > > > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > > > > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail onLinux.
> > > > > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > > > Disappointing to see Google continually treatLinuxas the poor red-
> > > > > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > > > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > > > > yet fail to develop aLinuxclient in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > > > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > > > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > > > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > > > > Developing and releasingLinuxclients for Google services in parallel
> > > > > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > > > > it any wonder there's a perception thatLinux'is not ready for the
> > > > > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > > > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > > > > world?
> > > > > > Please give more thought to how you treatLinux, given that you
> > > > > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > > > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to supportlinux?
Google Chrome: Windows only
Google Desktop: Windows and Linux Google Picasa: Windows, Linux via Wine
Google SketchUp 7: Windows & Mac only
Google Talk: Windows only
Google Toolbar 5: Windows and Linux Google video chat: Windows only.
Scorecard: out of seven standalone applications, Google officially
supports Linux on three of them. 43% Linux support rate.
At least that's better than 0%, but it's a long way from enthusiastic
support for the OS that Google built their house on.
> "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is no Linux client yet
> for video chat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail on Linux.
> On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
> > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > dance about using and supporting open standards with video chat and
> > yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
> > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
> > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > world?
> > Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
> > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > Are there any plans for the video chat to support linux?
Looks like Adobe has learned not to ignore Linux users. Thank you
Adobe for showing that Linux should not be treated as second class.
See? It's not so hard to develop for Linux AND Windows
simultaneously... and 64-bit also!
---
Nov. 17, 2008
Adobe has released a 64-bit alpha Linux version of its Flash Player 10
media software -- in advance of versions for Windows or the Mac. Other
news includes AIR 1.5 for Linux, upgraded media servers, a new design
tool called Flash Catalyst, and an upcoming ARM version of Flash.
The 64-bit Flash 10 release follows up on last month's release of the
32-bit version, which for the first time came out on Linux at the same
time as it did on Windows and Macintosh. As recently as last year,
Linux users waited six months for Flash 9 to arrive on Linux,
following its release on other platforms. Now the alpha 64-bit version
is coming out first on Linux because "that's where we've heard the
outcry the loudest," Adobe GM/VP (Platform Business) David Wadhwani
was quoted as saying in a story on today's announcements in our sister
publication, eWEEK.
---
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5620144233.html?kc=rss
> Google Chrome: Windows only
> Google Desktop: Windows and Linux > Google Picasa: Windows, Linux via Wine
> Google SketchUp 7: Windows & Mac only
> Google Talk: Windows only
> Google Toolbar 5: Windows and Linux > Google video chat: Windows only.
> Scorecard: out of seven standalone applications, Google officially
> supports Linux on three of them. 43% Linux support rate.
> At least that's better than 0%, but it's a long way from enthusiastic
> support for the OS that Google built their house on.
> On Nov 12, 10:13 am, belzecue wrote:
> > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is no Linux client yet
> > for video chat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail on Linux.
> > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
> > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > dance about using and supporting open standards with video chat and
> > > yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
> > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
> > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > world?
> > > Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
> > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > Are there any plans for the video chat to support linux?
Google, I'm sure everyone on this discussion group has good things to
say about your company and the applications and services you offer.
All we want is for you not to treat Linux users as third class
Internet-Citizens (I count Microsoft and Apple as the first 2, in
whichever order you prefer).
Google. You at least owe your fans a response through one of your
moderators. Just so we know that we are not being ignored.
Sorry Ubuntux, its not a Reply, just cant see where else can I comment
this topic.
Im an ubuntu user and an avid google consumer, but am too eager to see
some linux support for the video chat, Im trying to convert my wife to
linux but this is not helping at all.
I hope that everyone here in this thread noticed your message and
signs up! But: maybe it would be more effective to publish your poll a
bit more widely, or maybe link to it in the bummer message that linux users get when they try to download the video chat client (well, I
guess you're already logging how often you send that bummer
message :-) ).
Thanks!
David
On Nov 18, 6:49 pm, Voice & Video Engineer Justin wrote:
It's a shame that a company that publicly accepts to stand on the
shoulders of open software creates applications that only work in
proprietary operating systems.
When Google releases software for proprietary platforms only then
Google is encouraging the idea that open source or free operating
systems are not a good choice for the desktop user. Therefore Google
is making damage to the same community that is producing the software
it stands on.
> Google Chrome: Windows only
> Google Desktop: Windows andLinux
> Google Picasa: Windows,Linuxvia Wine
> Google SketchUp 7: Windows & Mac only
> Google Talk: Windows only
> Google Toolbar 5: Windows andLinux
> Googlevideochat: Windows only.
> Scorecard: out of seven standalone applications, Google officially
> supportsLinuxon three of them. 43%Linuxsupport rate.
> At least that's better than 0%, but it's a long way from enthusiastic
> support for the OS that Google built their house on.
> On Nov 12, 10:13 am, belzecue wrote:
> > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is noLinuxclient yet
> > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail onLinux.
> > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > Disappointing to see Google continually treatLinuxas the poor red-
> > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > yet fail to develop aLinuxclient in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > Developing and releasingLinuxclients for Google services in parallel
> > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > it any wonder there's a perception thatLinux'is not ready for the
> > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > world?
> > > Please give more thought to how you treatLinux, given that you
> > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to supportlinux?
Google, what makes this better than Skype?
"It's all based on OPEN STANDARDS! YAY OPEN STANDARDS!"
Google, who the frick cares about open standards?
"PSSH. Just like EVERY LINUX USER EVAR."
Google, is this available for linux?
"..."
REALLY F***ING SMART GOOGLE, WAY TO GO.
"...We'll just remove this interview text from our search results."
I hope you understand our animosity, Google. It's not that we don't
enjoy your products. When I was a Windows user I loved Google Talk. I
couldn't take it with me, you didn't give it a release. Fine, I'll use
Pidgin. But as time went on and I saw that you don't really give Linux any releases or support at all, well doesn't that conflict with what
you're telling the world? You claim to make open communications but
aside from web-based mail, I don't see it.
I've seen Picasa. I mean, come on! Via Wine? Are you joking? That's
just not right. It's essentially dangling something in front of all
the Linux users out there, who would love to use your web albums. I'm
on Flickr, thanks. Not that I have much more support over there, but
they did offer a Linux-based uploader, even if it's from a member.
Which is OK, why don't you just release the source? I'm sure there are
plenty of technical-minded folk who would write it, and people like me
who would help in beta testing.
And Google Talk.. Ah, Google Talk. If only you worked...but you don't,
and here we Linux users turn to other chat and messaging software to
run the same protocol. Come on, if they could write it, couldn't it be
released officially for Linux?
Google SketchUp, still not available. Your record's not looking too
good right now. That's three different pieces of software, of which
one works with Windows emulation. If I wanted to be nice, that would
make it 30% compatibility with Linux. However it's not compatible with
Linux, or I wouldn't have to use Wine, would I?
Google Earth. Finally something that works! Oh, wait...it doesn't. I
mean sure it does.But not to par with the other two OS' versions of
the same version and such. So here we are, one piece of software that
works, and works well. Not up to the other ones, but hey it works
better than the other pieces of software you're offering.
Google Chrome. I'm sure many many Linux users have followed Chrome
since you announced it. I didn't. I've only known about it for a few
months, but in those months i found it interesting that a browser
would be released. I looked forward to seeing what it was like,
reading about its features and touted usability and seamless
integration. Fine. Then it was released. Oh, no Linux. For something
with such fan fair, and speaking of open communications don't you
think it would be better to provide a Linux version?
Wake up Google. There are millions of us now. Millions of Linux users
and every year that number grows larger. Acknowledge Linux's share in
the market, steadily growing and don't overlook the most open form of
software distributed. Give Linux it's due.
c'mon Google. I love you, but you're leaving us Linux users out.
Google is the greatest internet based company there is. I refuse to
even think about using any other site to do something I could do with
Google. I got a GMail account when they were still invite only, and
have had the same account since. Gmail's chat is the onyl instant
messaging program I really ever use, but I'm forced to either use it
in my browser, or use Pidgin. I used only Chrome when it first came
out, I even used Windows for it, but I've since switched back to
Firefox, due to lack of Linux support. If someone tells me to look up
an address up on MapQuest, I'll use Google Maps instead. I've
converted many people from Yahoo users, to Google users.
If I had to either give up Linux and never be able to use a Google
product again, or keep using Google, but not be able to use Linux, I'd
go back to Windows, so I could keep using Google. but I'd much prefer
both. C'mon Google, let us Linux users have our share.
> I hope you understand our animosity, Google. It's not that we don't
> enjoy your products. When I was a Windows user I loved Google Talk. I
> couldn't take it with me, you didn't give it a release. Fine, I'll use
> Pidgin. But as time went on and I saw that you don't really giveLinux
> any releases or support at all, well doesn't that conflict with what
> you're telling the world? You claim to make open communications but
> aside from web-based mail, I don't see it.
> I've seen Picasa. I mean, come on! Via Wine? Are you joking? That's
> just not right. It's essentially dangling something in front of all
> theLinuxusers out there, who would love to use your web albums. I'm
> on Flickr, thanks. Not that I have much more support over there, but
> they did offer aLinux-based uploader, even if it's from a member.
> Which is OK, why don't you just release the source? I'm sure there are
> plenty of technical-minded folk who would write it, and people like me
> who would help in beta testing.
> And Google Talk.. Ah, Google Talk. If only you worked...but you don't,
> and here weLinuxusers turn to other chat and messaging software to
> run the same protocol. Come on, if they could write it, couldn't it be
> released officially forLinux?
> Google SketchUp, still not available. Your record's not looking too
> good right now. That's three different pieces of software, of which
> one works with Windows emulation. If I wanted to be nice, that would
> make it 30% compatibility withLinux. However it's not compatible withLinux, or I wouldn't have to use Wine, would I?
> Google Earth. Finally something that works! Oh, wait...it doesn't. I
> mean sure it does.But not to par with the other two OS' versions of
> the same version and such. So here we are, one piece of software that
> works, and works well. Not up to the other ones, but hey it works
> better than the other pieces of software you're offering.
> Google Chrome. I'm sure many manyLinuxusers have followed Chrome
> since you announced it. I didn't. I've only known about it for a few
> months, but in those months i found it interesting that a browser
> would be released. I looked forward to seeing what it was like,
> reading about its features and touted usability and seamless
> integration. Fine. Then it was released. Oh, noLinux. For something
> with such fan fair, and speaking of open communications don't you
> think it would be better to provide aLinuxversion?
> Wake up Google. There are millions of us now. Millions ofLinuxusers
> and every year that number grows larger. AcknowledgeLinux'sshare in
> the market, steadily growing and don't overlook the most open form of
> software distributed. GiveLinuxit's due.
Add me to the list.
Linux user for 5 years and massively disappointed that there is no
Sketchup, Chrome and now Gmail Video in linux form. Is this a
strategy?
You can sign yourself up on the list of beta testers:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pYZOS6WEwfd2dhlZI2m_bRQ.
This link was posted a few posts before yours, in this same thread
(Nov 18, 6:49 pm) apparently by a Google engineer who is involved in
the video & chat component. So there is light at the end of the
tunnel!
> Add me to the list.
> Linux user for 5 years and massively disappointed that there is no
> Sketchup, Chrome and now Gmail Video in linux form. Is this a
> strategy?
> Linux user for 5 years and massively disappointed that there is no Sketchup, Chrome and now Gmail Video ...
Chrome for Linux is being worked on. If you really want to, you can
build the chromium test shell in linux today and use it as a web
browser (it even handles gmail ok!). It's just a test shell, it
doesn't have the final UI (e.g. no tabs), and it's still not complete
in other ways, but fairly rapid progress is being made. See http://chromium.org for more info. (Disclaimer #1: I'm a google engineer working on the
native Linux port of Chrome, so I'm biased :-)
Also, Sketchup is starting to work pretty well in Wine; see
http://wiki.winehq.org/GoogleSketchup for tips.
(Disclaimer #2: in my spare time, I'm a wine developer, so I'm biased
there, too :-)
(Disclaimer #3: Linux user for about 16 years...)
- Dan
I completely agree, this is frustrating. I love linux and I love
Google's products, they're the way of the future - it's plain crazy
that we still can't use them together fully. Google, pleeeeease ... !
> Add me to the list.Linuxuser for 5 years and massively disappointed that there is no
> Sketchup, Chrome and now GmailVideoinlinuxform. Is this a
> strategy?
Dear Google, please stop going into this wrong direction :
- google talk is windows-only
- google talk gadget is working in linux, but it doesn't support
Voice (although it has a "Call" button ... very weird)
- google chrome beta is windows-only
- google voice&chat is windows-only .
I just wanted to add my voice to the concern that is out there for the
lack of support for linux on Google's last two major products i.e.
Chrome and Video Chat.
Are the Google team doing anything about this????? Are they even
reading these posts.
Come on Google this is the opportunity to take the could but not
accommodating your most loyal support base makes me compare to another
mega software company I know.
> I'm using Ubuntu Linux like most of my friends and discovered this
> morning that Google Chat Video doesn't work with Linux...
> I mean come on Google, more and more people are using Linux. You just
> have to consider the number of notebooks (like Eee PC, Dell mini, etc)
> sold with Linux to see that it's really a need to develop softwares
> for Linux.
> I thought that Google would be some kind of a pioneer in promoting
> Open Source Softwares and make it works for all OS... I was wrong...
> On Nov 13, 8:53 am, ApOgEEs wrote:
> > Dear Google,
> > I feel funny today, when I clicked your red link says "New! Video
> > Chat" on top right of my gmail account, It send me to a page where I
> > can understand that you are making video and voice chat available via
> > gmail. However, I can't see any way that I can download your video and
> > voice chat and only see "Gmail voice and video chat is not yet
> > available for Linux."
> > I'm sorry google, I can't use your Video Chat features. I only have
> > linux as my desktop. It is still useless even if I install windows
> > just to use your features because most of my friends and family also
> > use linux desktop. We don't hate Microsoft Windows desktop, we just
> > love our virus free linux desktop.
> > Anyway, thanks for providing great free email service with lots of new
> > features. I wish I could use all your great features on my linux > > desktop soon. Thank you!!
> > On Nov 13, 2:58 pm, Doughy wrote:
> > > Google! Please make your stuff work with linux!
> > > On Nov 12, 9:31 pm, Davino wrote:> Hi,
> > > > Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
> > > > on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
> > > > found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
> > > > my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
> > > > it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
> > > > Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
> > > > that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
> > > > mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
> > > > of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
> > > > It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
> > > > working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
> > > > ready for use/testing.
> > > > Davino
> > > > On 12 nov, 20:40, JPatagonico wrote:
> > > > > I agree. Please google, think inlinux.
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > JP
> > > > > On 11 nov, 19:34, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochatto supportlinux?
I also would like to add my voice to the masses who are outraged at
Google over this choice. Not only are you pissing off all the alpha
geeks drooling over this product, but my Mother and my g/f who are
both non-techies run OpenSUSE. Now, thanks to you, they've feel
isolated, and I've lost credibility to the people I care about for
recommending the O.S. "Well, if Google doesn't even support it...."
Also, many people on this forum have pointed out Google's poor Linux choices in many other products. I'm giving Google Earth a pass since
a lot of apps had trouble rendering in xgl, but at least Google Earth
tries. At least they released a client for Linux. Maybe the Google
Chat dev team should take some pointers from the Google Earth dev
team.
Oh, and I am plenty willing to put my money where my mouth is - just
give me a chance to contribute. I'll be glad to help - OH WAIT, no
source.... As one poster pointed out, Google is built on Open Source,
but I would also say that Google is built on a trust relationship with
its users, but you're starting to lose mine.
One last point I'd like to make: perhaps I wouldn't harbor such
animosity if you'd at least provide a roadmap for Linux support. Do
you plan your software that much? Just checking....
> I just wanted to add my voice to the concern that is out there for the
> lack of support for linux on Google's last two major products i.e.
> Chrome and Video Chat.
> Are the Google team doing anything about this????? Are they even
> reading these posts.
> Come on Google this is the opportunity to take the could but not
> accommodating your most loyal support base makes me compare to another
> mega software company I know.
> Please give the linux users a fair chance...
> On Nov 13, 12:11 pm, Ubutux wrote:
> > Same as ApOgEEs
> > I'm using Ubuntu Linux like most of my friends and discovered this
> > morning that Google Chat Video doesn't work with Linux...
> > I mean come on Google, more and more people are using Linux. You just
> > have to consider the number of notebooks (like Eee PC, Dell mini, etc)
> > sold with Linux to see that it's really a need to develop softwares
> > for Linux.
> > I thought that Google would be some kind of a pioneer in promoting
> > Open Source Softwares and make it works for all OS... I was wrong...
> > On Nov 13, 8:53 am, ApOgEEs wrote:
> > > Dear Google,
> > > I feel funny today, when I clicked your red link says "New! Video
> > > Chat" on top right of my gmail account, It send me to a page where I
> > > can understand that you are making video and voice chat available via
> > > gmail. However, I can't see any way that I can download your video and
> > > voice chat and only see "Gmail voice and video chat is not yet
> > > available for Linux."
> > > I'm sorry google, I can't use your Video Chat features. I only have
> > > linux as my desktop. It is still useless even if I install windows
> > > just to use your features because most of my friends and family also
> > > use linux desktop. We don't hate Microsoft Windows desktop, we just
> > > love our virus free linux desktop.
> > > Anyway, thanks for providing great free email service with lots of new
> > > features. I wish I could use all your great features on my linux > > > desktop soon. Thank you!!
> > > On Nov 13, 2:58 pm, Doughy wrote:
> > > > Google! Please make your stuff work with linux!
> > > > On Nov 12, 9:31 pm, Davino wrote:> Hi,
> > > > > Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
> > > > > on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
> > > > > found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
> > > > > my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
> > > > > it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
> > > > > Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
> > > > > that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
> > > > > mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
> > > > > of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
> > > > > It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
> > > > > working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
> > > > > ready for use/testing.
