Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
dance about using and supporting open standards with video chat and
yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
(proprietary platforms) client.
Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
world?
Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
"With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is no Linux client yet
for video chat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail on Linux.
> Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
> headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> dance about using and supporting open standards with video chat and
> yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> (proprietary platforms) client.
> Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
> with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
> desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> world?
> Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
> continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > Are there any plans for the video chat to support linux?
I would just love (and badly need) this feature for linux!
Please, develop as fast as you can :-)
I do understand that the most of users are still on Windows or Mac,
but I truly hope you're not going to slight Linux much longer! ;-)
Thanks for your great work!
I second that, I really think Google should try harder to make sure
things work on all three platforms when launching new functionality. I
realize it's not always the easiest thing to do, but I definitely
think it's worth it in the end. Especially since we're seeing more and
more products using the combination of Linux and Firefox. So please,
Google, don't forget us Linux users!
To be honest i've been waiting for this useful feature.....long,
long time but never imagined that once "hit the deck" all linux users
get excluded. Very dissapointing and deceptioned.
> To be honest i've been waiting for this useful feature.....long,
> long time but never imagined that once "hit the deck" all linux users
> get excluded. Very dissapointing and deceptioned.
> "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is no Linux client yet
> forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail on Linux.
> On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
> > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
> > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
> > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > world?
> > Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
> > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to support linux?
> > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is no Linux client yet
> > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail on Linux.
> > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > Disappointing to see Google continually treat Linux as the poor red-
> > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > yet fail to develop a Linux client in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > Developing and releasing Linux clients for Google services in parallel
> > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > it any wonder there's a perception that Linux 'is not ready for the
> > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > world?
> > > Please give more thought to how you treat Linux, given that you
> > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to support linux?
> > > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is noLinuxclient yet
> > > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail onLinux.
> > > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > Disappointing to see Google continually treatLinuxas the poor red-
> > > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > > yet fail to develop aLinuxclient in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > > Developing and releasingLinuxclients for Google services in parallel
> > > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > > it any wonder there's a perception thatLinux'is not ready for the
> > > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > > world?
> > > > Please give more thought to how you treatLinux, given that you
> > > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to supportlinux?
> Totally agree, Linux users are the future! Please can we have a chat
> client available for debian based (i.e. ubuntu) flavours of linux.
> Google are so amazing, I can't believe you lack the talent to do
> this! ;)
> On Nov 12, 3:37 pm, Yuretsz wrote:
> > When I will have this feature on Ubuntu?
> > On 12 нояб, 15:27, nimo99 wrote:
> > > 100% agree
> > > ..
> > > On Nov 12, 3:13 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > > > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > > > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > > > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is noLinuxclient yet
> > > > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > > > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail onLinux.
> > > > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > > Disappointing to see Google continually treatLinuxas the poor red-
> > > > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > > > yet fail to develop aLinuxclient in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > > > Developing and releasingLinuxclients for Google services in parallel
> > > > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > > > it any wonder there's a perception thatLinux'is not ready for the
> > > > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > > > world?
> > > > > Please give more thought to how you treatLinux, given that you
> > > > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to supportlinux?
> > Totally agree, Linux users are the future! Please can we have a chat
> > client available for debian based (i.e. ubuntu) flavours of linux.
> > Google are so amazing, I can't believe you lack the talent to do
> > this! ;)
> > On Nov 12, 3:37 pm, Yuretsz wrote:
> > > When I will have this feature on Ubuntu?
> > > On 12 нояб, 15:27, nimo99 wrote:
> > > > 100% agree
> > > > ..
> > > > On Nov 12, 3:13 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > > "With our team spread out across Google offices in Sweden and the
> > > > > U.S., it's been really handy in helping us work together."
> > > > > Interesting, because that tells us that Google staff mostly use
> > > > > Windows for their daily work, seeing as there is noLinuxclient yet
> > > > > forvideochat. Again, Google marching to Bill Gate's drum. Kinda
> > > > > embarrassing, like Microsoft running Hotmail onLinux.
> > > > > On Nov 12, 10:05 am, belzecue wrote:
> > > > > > Disappointing to see Google continually treatLinuxas the poor red-
> > > > > > headed stepchild of Windows and Mac. Google makes a big song and
> > > > > > dance about using and supporting open standards withvideochat and
> > > > > > yet fail to develop aLinuxclient in parallel with the Windows/Mac
> > > > > > (proprietary platforms) client.
> > > > > > Yes, it's a reality that most people use Windows. And yes, this means
> > > > > > Google still marches to the beat of drummer Bill Gates.
> > > > > > Developing and releasingLinuxclients for Google services in parallel
> > > > > > with Windows client releases should be possible. C'mon, Google -- is
> > > > > > it any wonder there's a perception thatLinux'is not ready for the
> > > > > > desktop' when companies like you shout out praise about open standards
> > > > > > and then fail to prioritize support for the most open platform in the
> > > > > > world?
> > > > > > Please give more thought to how you treatLinux, given that you
> > > > > > continue to stand on its shoulders to reach your goals.
> > > > > > On Nov 12, 7:34 am, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochat to supportlinux?
It would be nice google to have gtalk for linux, a lot of us have gone
linux only in the past 1-2 years like myself thanks to the greatly
improved quality of desktop linux, google is a far greater company
than skype (ebay?) and even they have a linux client (and it's on all
the latest netbooks already), please get your arse in gear, or hey
please just surprise me by releasing it tomorrow... ohh how wonderful
that would be...
Oh, I'm not saying they would want to include it on the G1, I just say
they might want to include this function in the future phones running
Android, so it could become an update of android.
> There's no front-facingvideocamera on the T-Mobile G1: how would the
> G1 take advantage of it? But it could take advantage of the voice
> functions.
> On Nov 12, 11:50 pm, TTcircus wrote:
> > Nothing to add, I'm just here to say: I want it as well!!
> > Please please please thevideoforlinux!
> > Android is based on thelinuxkernel so there should be a lnux version
> > any minute now....
> > right?
Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
ready for use/testing.
> Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
> on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
> found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
> my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
> it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
> Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
> that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
> mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
> of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
> It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
> working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
> ready for use/testing.
> Davino
> On 12 nov, 20:40, JPatagonico wrote:
> > I agree. Please google, think inlinux.
> > Regards,
> > JP
> > On 11 nov, 19:34, williumbillium wrote:
> > > Are there any plans for thevideochatto supportlinux?
I feel funny today, when I clicked your red link says "New! Video
Chat" on top right of my gmail account, It send me to a page where I
can understand that you are making video and voice chat available via
gmail. However, I can't see any way that I can download your video and
voice chat and only see "Gmail voice and video chat is not yet
available for Linux."
I'm sorry google, I can't use your Video Chat features. I only have
linux as my desktop. It is still useless even if I install windows
just to use your features because most of my friends and family also
use linux desktop. We don't hate Microsoft Windows desktop, we just
love our virus free linux desktop.
Anyway, thanks for providing great free email service with lots of new
features. I wish I could use all your great features on my linux
desktop soon. Thank you!!
> > Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
> > on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
> > found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
> > my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
> > it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
> > Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
> > that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
> > mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
> > of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
> > It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
> > working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
> > ready for use/testing.
> > Davino
> > On 12 nov, 20:40, JPatagonico wrote:
> > > I agree. Please google, think inlinux.
> > > Regards,
> > > JP
> > > On 11 nov, 19:34, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > Are there any plans for thevideochatto supportlinux?
Gawd dammit! Tis the first time I'm gonna complain about the lack of
equal treating of system users. Yes, maybe the percentage of Linux
users is little, but the number that hides behind it is enormous.
There are fu*king MILLIONS of us out there! Don't treat us as if we'd
be just a minority, not worth of time and effort to spend on.
If this is not the case, why the hell are we always last to get the
features that are on Windows and Mac for months? Is this caused by
some kind of technical difficulties? I doubt it.
Eh never mind. Just wanted to point a few things, that's all. Hope
things will change over time.
Thanks anyway for Your other services. I wish You all luck.
I'm using Ubuntu Linux like most of my friends and discovered this
morning that Google Chat Video doesn't work with Linux...
I mean come on Google, more and more people are using Linux. You just
have to consider the number of notebooks (like Eee PC, Dell mini, etc)
sold with Linux to see that it's really a need to develop softwares
for Linux.
I thought that Google would be some kind of a pioneer in promoting
Open Source Softwares and make it works for all OS... I was wrong...
> I feel funny today, when I clicked your red link says "New! Video
> Chat" on top right of my gmail account, It send me to a page where I
> can understand that you are making video and voice chat available via
> gmail. However, I can't see any way that I can download your video and
> voice chat and only see "Gmail voice and video chat is not yet
> available for Linux."
> I'm sorry google, I can't use your Video Chat features. I only have
> linux as my desktop. It is still useless even if I install windows
> just to use your features because most of my friends and family also
> use linux desktop. We don't hate Microsoft Windows desktop, we just
> love our virus free linux desktop.
> Anyway, thanks for providing great free email service with lots of new
> features. I wish I could use all your great features on my linux
> desktop soon. Thank you!!
> On Nov 13, 2:58 pm, Doughy wrote:
> > Google! Please make your stuff work with linux!
> > On Nov 12, 9:31 pm, Davino wrote:> Hi,
> > > Let me join the chorus: I'd *love* to be able to use gmail video chat
> > > on linux. I'm using Skype now, but not all my friends have that (some
> > > found it hard or impossible to install skype on their windows box, for
> > > my parents the skype video is always freezing after a minute or so),
> > > it would be great to try gmail chat instead.
> > > Normally I'd ask if I could help (developing, testing), but to Google
> > > that would be a bit pretentious... :-) Or maybe notl, they actually do
> > > mention that they are using open communication standards with the goal
> > > of enabling 3rd party clients, so maybe we can just get an API.
> > > It would be nice if Google could give us a word on whether they are
> > > working on a linux client on what time scale that's expected to be
> > > ready for use/testing.
> > > Davino
> > > On 12 nov, 20:40, JPatagonico wrote:
> > > > I agree. Please google, think inlinux.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > JP
> > > > On 11 nov, 19:34, williumbillium wrote:
> > > > > Are there any plans for thevideochatto supportlinux?
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