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theMezz.com

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Jan 13, 2006, 3:17:54 PM1/13/06
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ANy one have good URL's for gmail skins?

Kevo

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Jan 13, 2006, 4:12:01 PM1/13/06
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I dont kniw of any, but i hope you understand that my using any third
party programs to edit the way gmail works, looks, etc you are
violating the user agreement of Gmail and may have your account deleted.

Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 13, 2006, 7:04:30 PM1/13/06
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bullshit.  using CSS skins is our god given right.  gmail doesn't give a damn how you modify the page as long as it doesnt cause undue server load.
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Scott Villarosa

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Jan 13, 2006, 7:33:30 PM1/13/06
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Subject: [Gmail-Generation] Re: skins

Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 13, 2006, 10:18:16 PM1/13/06
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persistent.info started the whole skinning craze a while back but most of the skins are broken due to the many changes that have occured in the gmail UI. I use a greasemonkey script to inject my own CSS code snippet into the page.
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Scott Villarosa

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Jan 13, 2006, 10:42:11 PM1/13/06
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Yeah, or you can just manually tweak userContent.css. That's what I do.


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Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 13, 2006, 10:54:48 PM1/13/06
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but you have to have something like uriid to do per site stylesheets and that makes the stylesheets so much more verbose. plus you have to restart ffx to test them.

Scott Villarosa

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Jan 13, 2006, 10:58:28 PM1/13/06
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Not in FF 1.5 and using the Web Developer extension. See my blog post on the subject.
 


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Luka Kladaric

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:32:56 AM1/14/06
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how do you find out which classes/ids are applied to which elements?

I use Mouseover DOM Inspector, but it won't work with gmail for some reason


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Scott Villarosa

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:45:13 AM1/14/06
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CTRL+A (select all) -> View selection source -> ...

All the classes and ids will show then. You could also use the Web Dev
extension.

Luka Kladaric

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:50:13 AM1/14/06
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I have webdev... which feature do you use to see ids and classes?

(god, don't let it be the css viewer)

Scott Villarosa

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:56:28 AM1/14/06
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Information -> Display ID and Class Details.

Luka Kladaric

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Jan 14, 2006, 9:01:48 AM1/14/06
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holy crap

Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 14, 2006, 6:30:11 PM1/14/06
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colorzilla's what i use.

On 1/14/06, Luka Kladaric <allix...@gmail.com> wrote:

how do you find out which classes/ids are applied to which elements?

I use Mouseover DOM Inspector, but it won't work with gmail for some reason

On 1/14/06, Scott Villarosa < sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Not in FF 1.5 and using the Web Developer extension. See my blog post on the
> subject.
>
> http://urlx.org/onlinehome.us/1f7e
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>  ________________________________
>  From: Gmail-Ge...@googlegroups.com
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> Caleb Eggensperger
> Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2006 2:55 PM
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> Subject: [Gmail-Generation] Re: skins
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>
> but you have to have something like uriid to do per site stylesheets and
> that makes the stylesheets so much more verbose. plus you have to restart
> ffx to test them.
>
>
> On 1/13/06, Scott Villarosa <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, or you can just manually tweak userContent.css . That's what I do.



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David Hogg

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Jan 16, 2006, 10:44:55 PM1/16/06
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In FF 1.5 and using the Web Developer extension it is possible to add a css file. But the added css disappears when FF is restarted. And it doesn't apply to opened conversations, unless you add the css in each case. Is there any way of adding the css file permanently? The blog post on the subject doesn't seem to be on the subject of the Web Developer extension.
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Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 16, 2006, 11:01:44 PM1/16/06
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webdev to test it, then save it as userContent.css in your profile/chrome folder

David Hogg

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Jan 16, 2006, 11:39:38 PM1/16/06
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Problem is that userContent.css applies to all URLs not only gmail. Then I have a problem finding the profile/chrome folder. On my machine I can't find any folder called Applications Data. Don't know why.

Caleb Eggensperger

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Jan 16, 2006, 11:57:32 PM1/16/06
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go start > run > type "%appdata%" (no quotes) and hit enter.  and use the tequnique on scott's blog's css file for per domain styling.
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Scott Villarosa

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Jan 17, 2006, 12:04:26 AM1/17/06
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King of the Hill-style: Yup.


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David Hogg

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:11:38 AM1/17/06
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Many thanks!

David Hogg

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:21:28 PM1/19/06
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This is a follow-up to a previous question. userContent.css applies to all URLs not only gmail. I understand that the line "@-moz-document url-prefix(mail.google.com/mail/), domain( mail.google.com)" specifies the gmail page. But what do you do if you want to add stylesheets to other pages? Do you put all the stylesheets in the same css document with a different "@-moz-document" line in each case?

theMezz.com

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:34:00 PM1/19/06
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A skin is not a program. It's just css code that works with a web
browser. It's how I render a page. Just like using IE instead of
FireFox instead of Opera. It's just the code that tells my web browser
how to render a web page - that's all it is, CSS is not a program.

David Hogg

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:41:34 PM1/19/06
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Well, yes, but even if it's a code, it does work with a web browser and tells the browser how to render a certain page. But web pages are different, so they need different css codes. How can you put these different codes into one css file ( userContent.css)? That's what I was getting at.

Scott Villarosa

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:44:23 PM1/19/06
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Here's an example of what my full userContent.css looks like. It has examples for different websites.


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userContent.css

Scott Villarosa

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:45:31 PM1/19/06
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Sorry, you want my sites.css file. Oops.


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sites.css

David Hogg

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:55:38 PM1/19/06
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This is very interesting. Thanks. Maybe you could also send the other two css files: adBlocking.css and style.css. To complete the picture.

Scott Villarosa

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Jan 19, 2006, 10:18:24 PM1/19/06
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Those two are empty. I haven't got around to them yet. Well, the style file should have most of my userChrome code in it. That's attached for your perusal also.


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adBlocking.css
style.css
userChrome.css

David Hogg

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Jan 19, 2006, 11:39:53 PM1/19/06
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Many thanks, Scott. I don't quite get the point of the userChrome.css file. What's the difference between userChrome.css and userContent.css?

Two other points:

I can't get the gmail logo to show up. I think I saw something about that somewhere on Gmail Generation. But I can't remember where.

And I don't know which line instructs the css to open several items in a multi-message conversation (usually three, I think). I find this quite irritating and I would like to switch it off.

David Hogg

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Jan 20, 2006, 9:21:02 AM1/20/06
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Sorry, I go back on the logo point. I do now have the logo. But it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the stylesheet, because I cut it out of the stylesheet and the logo was still there. So I suppose the logo somehow comes direct from gmail.
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