www.goodbyebatteries.com

They look "interesting".

A couple of points:

* I assume the lights stop working when the wheel stps turning  what
happens when I'm in the middle of the A167, waiting to turn right and a
bus approaches from behind?

* I run quick release wheels and remove the front wheel to lock the
bike up.  Presumably the lights will fall off when I do this?

* Hub-level seems rather low to fasten lights to a bike.  I know they
need to be there for the batteries to work, but can they be seen there
by other vehicles?

Those all seem really negative, but I would actually like some always
on lights for my bike, even if they're just used to supplement
battery-powered lights, or were just left in place all the time for
occasions when I forgot my lights, stayed out later than expected or it
got dark unexpectedly early (like tonight!).

I know Richard has lights built-in to his bike, but does anyone else
have experience of these lights, or something similar.

Well what a small world. Perhaps everyone should get one with a free
Fronter licence!.

Mike - this is why we are selling this to as an environmentally
friendly safety device. I probably wont apply to high end bikes but
kids on bike in the auttumn.

* I assume the lights stop working when the wheel stps turning  what
happens when I'm in the middle of the A167, waiting to turn right and a
bus approaches from behind? Correct

* I run quick release wheels and remove the front wheel to lock the
bike up.  Presumably the lights will fall off when I do this?  Corrct
but see above

* Hub-level seems rather low to fasten lights to a bike.  I know they
need to be there for the batteries to work, but can they be seen there
by other vehicles?  An independant study by the university in Odense
with 3000 "lights" fitted and a similar sized control group found that
there were 20% less accidents with the "lights" than without over a
period on one year. I am getting the report translated.
This is another device to help us getting crunched.

I will pass on a set to Tom next time he is in Newcastle - if you want
them you can pay me later!!

 Late night - instead of this - This is another device to help us
getting crunched. I meant to say  This is another device to help us
STOP getting crunched. !!

I was a bit confused when I got an email from you in my gmail account;
I thought Tom must have told you my address; then I saw the message
here.

These lights do actually seem like a good idea; I'd qeally like a light
that was guaranteed to work all the time, just as an emergency backup.
I wouldn't fancy using it on its own though.

Just to add to the above discussion, my front wheel built-in dynamo
works wonderfully. So far no maintenance at all (3-4 years). When I
stop, the rear light stays on for about 3 minutes, so no problem with
traffic coming up from behind. The built-in dynamo also seems to give
much less drag than a standard on-wheel model. Strongly reccommend the
battery-free option.