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Re: [DV-L] Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

randy.qui...@gmail.com (Randy Quimpo) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:18:27 UT

Hi Perry,
I realize now that my question has more to do with the rise of China
(and the decline of the US), rather than the PAL/NTSC video standards
. Not long ago during the early days of DV-L, we would develop our
videos for an american audience, and did a sloppy translation into
Chinese using a moonlighting Chinese academic as a cheap

Re: [DV-L] Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

randy.qui...@gmail.com (Randy Quimpo) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:08:48 UT

Hi Tim,
Haha, its been four hours since you posted this, and I have come to
the same conclusion!

US, Japan, Philippines - NTSC matters
China and HK (PAL system) - doesn't care what system you use there. In
fact I set up shop there shooting NTSC for years and today nobody is
the wiser.

So its better to have an NTSC system, even if my main business now is

Re: [DV-L] Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp (Tim Selander) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:00:48 UT

Randy, your int'l experience is wider than mine but I have found
that NTSC countries are much less flexible. Very few, if any,
normal people/offices have AV gear that can play PAL. On the
other hand, in every PAL country I have been to, it seemed
everyone had TVs/VCRs that could play both NTSC and PAL. When I

RE: [DV-L] Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

perry.mitch...@gmail.com (Perry) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:17:27 UT

In order of your questions:
1) The problem is the TV - many US TVs did not play PAL. Playing on a
computer is no problem and the DVD is universal by design.

2) Transcoding 25-30 is still a major problem. These days you can do it
badly on any computer or fairly well with some more sophisticated software

Re: [DV-L] Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

vegasca...@yahoo.com (Steven St. Phillip) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:35:38 UT

Randy what you want is an ATSC model....LOL...24 frame 1080p and you can transcode the footage however you want (Pal, NTSC, Blu-Ray....whatever).

Steve.

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Hi fellows,
I plan to buy a new camera soon, and I suddenly realized that one

Buying new cam - PAL or NTSC (not obvious)

randy.qui...@gmail.com (Randy Quimpo) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:21:04 UT

Hi fellows,
I plan to buy a new camera soon, and I suddenly realized that one
basic decision I have to make is whether I buy a PAL or NTSC model.
Consider the following:

1. I am buying the camera for some shoots I plan to do late this year
and early next year. These shoots are in China (PAL), HK (PAL),

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Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

cast...@ifmpstudios.com — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:55:52 UT

Re:

If your sequence is set up for 16bit/48k, the audio you bring in should not
be at 44k.

Try converting all of the audio to 48k and using it in a 48k sequence.

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Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

carlin.c...@gmail.com (Carlin - BlueStar) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:20:15 UT

This may not matter, and it "should" work as it is, but DV is 16 bit
48k , CDs are 16 bit 44.1 . I've always ripped my audio to 16/ 48 for
DV (or HDV) work. Just a thought. I don't use Mac, so that may not be
an issue, in fact, its probably not an issue for anyone, anymore, but
it used to cause problems!

Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

randy.qui...@gmail.com (Randy Quimpo) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:24:58 UT

hi fellows,
thanks for the suggestions. Regarding monitoring, I'm editing on an
iMac - nothing connected, so I guess this means I'm editing analog
out.

So far only experienced it on FCP, and yes its a DV timeline but not
the usual settup - its DV widescreen. Let me check out that sequence
thingy - you are right, sequence might be corrupted.

Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

bhad...@mail.utexas.edu (Bill Haddad) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:15:33 UT

Are you monitoring from analog or digital out?
Some macs had a problem with the digital out.
Is it only in fcp, or other apps?
Are you working in a DV timeline?
If so, do the "easy setup" for DV and
then creating a new sequence and copying and pasting the contents of
your current timeline into the new one. It could be a corrupted

RE: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

h...@huntarts.com (Hunt Armistead) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:37:29 UT

Randy,

Another shot in the dark...have you tried using headphones plugged directly
into your Mac rather than the amplifier and speakers ?

Hunt

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Yes, its on the timeline, not final product (havent finished the project

Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

joepark...@gmail.com (Joe Parker) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:31:03 UT

You need to do some tests then, because you're spinning your wheels
needlessly if there are no honking noises in your output.

Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

randy.qui...@gmail.com (Randy Quimpo) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:28:56 UT

Yes, its on the timeline, not final product (havent finished the project yet).

There are no MP3s on the timeline - but there USED TO BE a mix of WAV
(for the voiceover) and AIFF (for the music bed). I have since changed
the sample rate so both are 16bit/44Hz AIFF, but problem persists. Its
interesting though how it doesn't happen all the time, nor in the same

Re: [DV-L] Re: FCP question - sudden honking sound

joepark...@gmail.com (Joe Parker) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:23:15 UT

From the wild guess dept: I heard this in early versions of Vegas.
Solved it by using .wav files instead of .mp3.

Did you tell us if these honks are on the final product? Or just on
the timeline?