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Subject: Re: [CTHackerspace] Re: Fw: We're Done With Kickstarter
From: William Saturno <wsatu...@gmail.com>
To: cthackerspace@googlegroups.com
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As to gizmodos point, I see it as a buyer (investor) beware. When you
invest in something, sure, it is a gamble. You're basing it off what you
read about what you see in the posting and probably a short video clip. If
the investor is not sure, there is plenty of opportunity to contact the
kickstarter person directly. Or, here's an idea, if you feel sure, don't
invest!
I see this as a rant from some sour grapes in an investment that did not
meet the expectations. Is kickstarter perfect? Nope. There are many things
that shouldn't be funded, and many of them are not. But I think the ideaof
something like kickstarter existing is better than not having the
opportunity. I have seen some very successful things come out of kick
starter (as well as some things that should have never been funded)
No one s holding a gun to someone's head to invest in kick starter. Can
gizmoto have their own opinion, of course. But if you don't like
kickstarter, the answer is simple. Don't participate!
I still like what kick starter has to offer and will continue to
participate in it until I think otherwise
On Apr 3, 2012 11:24 AM, "William Saturno" <wsatu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I hear=
d
> first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little high (1=
0%
> I think ) most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something is bett=
er
> than 100 percent of nothing.
>
> There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system.
> The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner. I need to mo=
ve
> it forward and turn up the heat
> On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson" <andersonj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I
>> know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stan=
ce?
>> On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original message-----
>>>
>>> *From: *Gizmodo <em...@gizmodo.com>*
>>> To: *ctja...@yahoo.com*
>>> Sent: *Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT*
>>> Subject: *We're Done With Kickstarter
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b8=
6c21cc8&id=3Dad475ca718&e=3D4aab03324d> March
>>> 29th, 2012Top Story We're Done With Kickstarter<http://gizmodo.us1.list=
-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dc1adda960b&e=3D4=
aab03324d>
>>>
>>> - <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3=
888b86c21cc8&id=3D234fb0aa76&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3=
888b86c21cc8&id=3D97049c22ce&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba38=
88b86c21cc8&id=3D34f5524699&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba38=
88b86c21cc8&id=3Dde3437d138&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - <http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba38=
88b86c21cc8&id=3Da0c60cf8a9&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>>
>>> By Joe Brown
>>>
>>> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.co=
m/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D85e6e3bff6&e=3D4aab03324d>=
I'm
>>> done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I li=
ve
>>> in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confide=
nce
>>> that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, l=
ike,
>>> *anything*.
>>>
>>> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
>>>
>>> I hate to say this, but Ryan Tate was right<http://gizmodo.us1.list-man=
age1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D68f7697229&e=3D4aab=
03324d>
>>> .
>>>
>>> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a
>>> world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their
>>> ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those =
cold
>>> summer days.
>>>
>>> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It
>>> was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to=
get
>>> your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and b=
eg
>>> your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer yo=
ur
>>> friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a
>>> prototype and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for you=
r
>>> product, you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell =
they
>>> were talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many
>>> succeeded=97and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some rea=
lly
>>> smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into someth=
ing
>>> that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
>>>
>>> That is not happening on Kickstarter. The only people you have to
>>> convince that your idea is worth turning into a reality is a mob of
>>> drooling optimistic simpletons like me. Yeah, I have funded more
>>> Kickstarters than I care to admit. Somewhere in the neighborhood of a
>>> dozen. The only ones I have not regretted were Longshot Magazine<http:/=
/gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=
=3D9b0c45a5f5&e=3D4aab03324d>and Andy
>>> D's<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888=
b86c21cc8&id=3D590646548e&e=3D4aab03324d>forthcoming album,
>>> *Warcries*<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1=
dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dd8d0bac3da&e=3D4aab03324d>.
>>> (Sample tracks here<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D=
251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D36924db426&e=3D4aab03324d>.
>>> It is liquid sound insanity.)
>>>
>>> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you
>>> for attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is *
>>> such* an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking
>>> bottle opener on just about anything. Please stop.
>>>
>>> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At
>>> first all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed
>>> like a genuine font of unfettered innovation=97the hive mind coming up =
with
>>> products that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And
>>> maybe it was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad
>>> renderings, and poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are po=
orly
>>> made. And some are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without
>>> delivering the promised rewards. This has happened to me.
>>>
>>> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the
>>> first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a
>>> fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a rea=
l
>>> word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I
>>> funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba=
3888b86c21cc8&id=3D7a071e4d59&e=3D4aab03324d>?
>>> Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/cl=
ick?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dc33be1646c&e=3D4aab03324d>that, $40 =
later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the
>>> product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? Nope.
>>> It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the p=
ool
>>> until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
>>>
>>> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on
>>> Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figure=
s
>>> out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for ram=
pant
>>> innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a
>>> whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wan=
nabe
>>> signal destined for the landfill.
>>>
>>> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along
>>> the way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into
>>> something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharin=
g
>>> with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source yo=
u
>>> can't use.
>>> [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/cl=
ick?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D9994a90d6e&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>>
>>> - [image: Overworked and In Danger: The Full Foxconn Labor Report]<h=
ttp://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8=
&id=3D21751b4c2e&e=3D4aab03324d> Overworked
>>> and In Danger: The Full Foxconn Labor Report<http://gizmodo.us1.list=
-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D0525d3ce43&e=3D=
4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: A List of Things More Likely Than You Winning Tomorrow's
>>> $540 Million Lotto Jackpot]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track=
/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D20d977b80b&e=3D4aab03324d> A
>>> List of Things More Likely Than You Winning Tomorrow's $540 Million =
Lotto
>>> Jackpot<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1=
dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Df8a78de917&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: Drunk Man Sings Entire Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody In
>>> Police Car]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e=
609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D21a6b0cc54&e=3D4aab03324d> Drunk
>>> Man Sings Entire Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody In Police Car<http://gizm=
odo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D4577=
88bed1&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-mana=
ge.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dd85f0447a2&e=3D4aab03=
324d> We're
>>> Done With Kickstarter<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click=
?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D1a3a91b286&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: Paper for iPad Hands-On: So This Is What Microsoft's
>>> Former Courier Employees Were Working On]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-ma=
nage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D86c36e28f9&e=3D4aa=
b03324d> Paper
>>> for iPad Hands-On: So This Is What Microsoft's Former Courier Employ=
ees
>>> Were Working On<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D=
251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D1ef08fbd7f&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: Fighting to Die, Making Washing Machines Fly, and Gaming
>>> the Coriolis Effect to Smoke a Better Bowl]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-=
manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D44475a5d25&e=3D4a=
ab03324d> Fighting
>>> to Die, Making Washing Machines Fly, and Gaming the Coriolis Effect =
to
>>> Smoke a Better Bowl<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=
=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Ddcd5c38964&e=3D4aab03324d>
>>> - [image: The Lens We'll Look Through to Find a New Earth]<http://g=
izmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D6=
10140f991&e=3D4aab03324d> The
>>> Lens We'll Look Through to Find a New Earth<http://gizmodo.us1.list-=
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>>>
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<p>As to gizmodos point, I see it as a buyer (investor) beware. When you in=
vest in something, sure, it is a gamble. You're basing it off what you =
read about what you see in the posting and probably a short video clip. If =
the investor is not sure, there is plenty of opportunity to contact the kic=
kstarter person directly. Or, here's an idea, if you feel sure, don'=
;t invest!</p>
<p>I see this as a rant from some sour grapes in an investment that did not=
meet the expectations. Is kickstarter perfect? Nope. There are many things=
that shouldn't be funded, and many of them are not. But I think the id=
eaof something=A0 like kickstarter existing is better than not having the o=
pportunity. I have seen some very successful things come out of kick starte=
r (as well as some things that should have never been funded)</p>
<p> No one s holding a gun to someone's head to invest in kick starter.=
Can gizmoto have their own opinion, of course. But if you don't like k=
ickstarter, the answer is simple. Don't participate!</p>
<p> I still like what kick starter has to offer and will continue to partic=
ipate in it until I think otherwise<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 3, 2012 11:24 AM, "William Saturno&q=
uot; <<a href=3D"mailto:wsatu...@gmail.com">wsatu...@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I hea=
rd first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little high (=
10% I think )=A0 most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something is =
better than 100 percent of nothing. </p>
<p> There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system=
. The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner.=A0 I need to =
move it forward and turn up the heat</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson=
" <<a href=3D"mailto:andersonj...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ande=
rsonj...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<p>Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I =
know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's sta=
nce?</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "<a href=3D"mailto=
:ctja...@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">ctja...@yahoo.com</a>" <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ctja...@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">ctja...@yahoo.com</a>>=
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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or=3D"#333333"><i><span style=3D"font-size:14px"><font face=3D"sans-serif">=
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID</font></span></i></font></div><b=
r><br>
-----Original message-----<br><blockquote><div style=3D"font-family:sans-se=
rif;font-size:14px"><b>From: </b>Gizmodo <<a href=3D"mailto:email@gizmod=
o.com" target=3D"_blank">em...@gizmodo.com</a>><b><br>To: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:ctja...@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">ctja...@yahoo.com</a><b><br>
Sent: </b>Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT<b><br>Subject: </b>We're Done =
With Kickstarter<br><br></div><div>
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<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left"><a href=3D"http://gizmodo.us1.=
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ff6&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color:#3697b3" target=
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arge.jpg" width=3D"300" alt=3D"We're Done With Kickstarter" title=3D"We=
're Done With Kickstarter" style=3D"display:block;float:left;margin:5px=
13px 10px 0;width:100%"></a>I'm done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kick=
starter is ruining the world I live in. I used to love crazy gadgets, becau=
se I had some measure of confidence that, behind the idea, was some reasona=
bly competent team or plan or, like, <em>anything</em>.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun=
-shy about innovation.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">I hate to say this, but <a href=3D"=
http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21c=
c8&id=3D68f7697229&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;co=
lor:#3697b3" target=3D"_blank">Ryan Tate was right</a>.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">I used to live in San Francisco, st=
artup city USA. Everyone there had a world-changing idea, and about half of=
those people tried to make their ideas reality. It was wonderful and aweso=
me. It kept you warm on those cold summer days.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">That sense of inspiration is part o=
f why I used to love Kickstarter. It was like everywhere could be San Franc=
isco. Except one thing: In SF, to get your company out of your kitchen, you=
needed to save and scrounge and beg your parents for money and move into a=
tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your friends into helping you and sweat for =
<em>months</em> and then make a prototype and then the really hard part: To=
get some seed money for your product, you'd have to convince people wh=
o actually knew what the hell they were talking about to fund your project.=
A lot of people failed. Many succeeded=97and the ones who did had the supp=
ort and wisdom of some really smart cats helping them refine their products=
and turn them into something that wouldn't just clot the earth with mo=
re useless crap.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">That is not happening on Kickstarte=
r. The only people you have to convince that your idea is worth turning int=
o a reality is a mob of drooling optimistic simpletons like me. Yeah, I hav=
e funded more Kickstarters than I care to admit. Somewhere in the neighborh=
ood of a dozen. The only ones I have not regretted were <a href=3D"http://g=
izmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=
=3D9b0c45a5f5&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color:#3697=
b3" target=3D"_blank">Longshot Magazine</a> and <a href=3D"http://gizmodo.u=
s1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D59064=
6548e&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color:#3697b3" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Andy D's</a> forthcoming album, <a href=3D"http://gizmodo=
.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dd8d=
0bac3da&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color:#3697b3" ta=
rget=3D"_blank"><em>Warcries</em></a>. (Sample tracks <a href=3D"http://giz=
modo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D251e609e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=
=3D36924db426&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color:#3697=
b3" target=3D"_blank">here</a>. It is liquid sound insanity.)</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">But I do not need another iPhone do=
ck or case. Yes, I am proud of you for attaching a rollerskate to a camera.=
Wow, that iPod Nano watch is <em>such</em> an original idea. Yes, I am awa=
re that you can put a fucking bottle opener on just about anything. Please =
stop.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">We look at hundreds of products eve=
ry week. Sometimes thousands. At first all of us were pretty stoked about K=
ickstarter, because it seemed like a genuine font of unfettered innovation=
=97the hive mind coming up with products that we truly needed but had never=
even thought of before. And maybe it was. But it's not anymore. It'=
;s a sea of bad videos, bad renderings, and poorly made prototypes. Some mi=
ght be good. Many are poorly made. And some are downright fraudulent, takin=
g peoples' money without delivering the promised rewards. This has happ=
ened to me.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">The problem is actually the same th=
ing that made it so exciting in the first place: the unfetteredness. Is tha=
t a word? No? Maybe I can post a fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten=
grand and turn it into a real word. I mean, is that any less realistic tha=
n the <a href=3D"http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3D251e60=
9e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3D7a071e4d59&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-d=
ecoration:none;color:#3697b3" target=3D"_blank">Robocop Statue I funded</a>=
? Or <a href=3D"http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=3D251e609=
e1dba3888b86c21cc8&id=3Dc33be1646c&e=3D4aab03324d" style=3D"text-de=
coration:none;color:#3697b3" target=3D"_blank">the plug-in iPhone case</a> =
that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the p=
roduct around which it was designed had been fully <em>re</em>designed? Nop=
e. It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out o=
f the pool until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">Starting today, you will not see an=
y items from Kickstarter posted on Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of the=
m. Or unless Kickstarter figures out a way to up the quality of the shit on=
its site. We are all for rampant innovation, but, at this point, Kickstart=
er is little more than spam: a whole lot of noise that sometimes results in=
a poorly made piece of wannabe signal destined for the landfill.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0 0 13px;clear:left">What sucks is that we'll probab=
ly miss one or two good products along the way. But I'm fine with that.=
Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into something a little more trustworthy=
that we can feel comfortable sharing with you. Because in this game, a sou=
rce you can't trust is a source you can't use.</p>
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