Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stance? On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>I'm > done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I live > in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confidence > that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, like, > *anything*.
> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a > world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their > ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those cold > summer days.
> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It > was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to get > your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and beg > your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your > friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a prototype > and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for your product, > you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell they were > talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many > succeeded—and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some really > smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into something > that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you for > attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is *such*an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking bottle opener > on just about anything. Please stop.
> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At first > all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed like a > genuine font of unfettered innovation—the hive mind coming up with products > that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And maybe it > was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad renderings, and > poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are poorly made. And some > are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without delivering the > promised rewards. This has happened to me.
> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the > first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a > fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a real > word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>? > Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the > product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? Nope. > It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the pool > until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on > Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figures > out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for rampant > innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a > whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wannabe > signal destined for the landfill.
> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along the > way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into > something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharing > with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source you > can't use. > [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86c...>
I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I heard first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little high (10% I think ) most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something is better than 100 percent of nothing.
There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system. The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner. I need to move it forward and turn up the heat On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson" <andersonj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I > know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stance? > On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>> -----Original message-----
>> *From: *Gizmodo <em...@gizmodo.com>* >> To: *ctja...@yahoo.com* >> Sent: *Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT* >> Subject: *We're Done With Kickstarter
>> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>I'm >> done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I live >> in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confidence >> that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, like, >> *anything*.
>> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
>> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a >> world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their >> ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those cold >> summer days.
>> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It >> was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to get >> your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and beg >> your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your >> friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a >> prototype and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for your >> product, you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell they >> were talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many >> succeeded—and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some really >> smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into something >> that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
>> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you for >> attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is *such*an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking bottle opener >> on just about anything. Please stop.
>> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At first >> all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed like a >> genuine font of unfettered innovation—the hive mind coming up with products >> that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And maybe it >> was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad renderings, and >> poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are poorly made. And some >> are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without delivering the >> promised rewards. This has happened to me.
>> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the >> first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a >> fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a real >> word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>? >> Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the >> product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? Nope. >> It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the pool >> until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
>> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on >> Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figures >> out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for rampant >> innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a >> whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wannabe >> signal destined for the landfill.
>> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along the >> way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into >> something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharing >> with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source you >> can't use. >> [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86c...>
I for one, discount gizmodo's stance on things at least 10-20% ... They seem to be trying to be an elitst techie blog site & only cover 1% of the things that really affect things. They too often seem sensationalist & or on someone's payroll.
I like the idea of Kickstarter, but havn't as yet, gotten behind anything, because where I come from financially right now, i just cannot consider it. I think Gizmodo's entirely wrong, Kickstarter & the people offering money to kick start projects should & do handle filtration. I think gizmodo's stupid to lay fault on the fact that, yes some incompleted idea's need to be fleshed out, but they as a media outlet, have responsibility to filter what they put out. There's no need to attack kickstarter. The editor's of gizmodo should be shamed & kicked in the teeth for publishing that article. Can any one tell i recently read all the 'girl with the___' book's? If only i had time to write what i really feel about Gizmodo & run it on a completing blog.. Then I could start some stuff.. And maybe even get paid.. who knows.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM, William Saturno <wsatu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I heard > first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little high (10% > I think ) most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something is better > than 100 percent of nothing.
> There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system. > The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner. I need to move > it forward and turn up the heat > On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson" <andersonj...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I >> know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stance? >> On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> *From: *Gizmodo <em...@gizmodo.com>* >>> To: *ctja...@yahoo.com* >>> Sent: *Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT* >>> Subject: *We're Done With Kickstarter
>>> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>I'm >>> done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I live >>> in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confidence >>> that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, like, >>> *anything*.
>>> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
>>> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a >>> world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their >>> ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those cold >>> summer days.
>>> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It >>> was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to get >>> your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and beg >>> your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your >>> friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a >>> prototype and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for your >>> product, you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell they >>> were talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many >>> succeeded—and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some really >>> smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into something >>> that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
>>> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you >>> for attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is * >>> such* an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking >>> bottle opener on just about anything. Please stop.
>>> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At >>> first all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed >>> like a genuine font of unfettered innovation—the hive mind coming up with >>> products that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And >>> maybe it was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad >>> renderings, and poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are poorly >>> made. And some are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without >>> delivering the promised rewards. This has happened to me.
>>> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the >>> first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a >>> fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a real >>> word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I >>> funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>? >>> Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the >>> product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? Nope. >>> It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the pool >>> until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
>>> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on >>> Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figures >>> out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for rampant >>> innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a >>> whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wannabe >>> signal destined for the landfill.
>>> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along >>> the way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into >>> something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharing >>> with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source you >>> can't use. >>> [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86c...>
As to gizmodos point, I see it as a buyer (investor) beware. When you invest in something, sure, it is a gamble. You're basing it off what you read about what you see in the posting and probably a short video clip. If the investor is not sure, there is plenty of opportunity to contact the kickstarter person directly. Or, here's an idea, if you feel sure, don't invest!
I see this as a rant from some sour grapes in an investment that did not meet the expectations. Is kickstarter perfect? Nope. There are many things that shouldn't be funded, and many of them are not. But I think the ideaof something like kickstarter existing is better than not having the opportunity. I have seen some very successful things come out of kick starter (as well as some things that should have never been funded)
No one s holding a gun to someone's head to invest in kick starter. Can gizmoto have their own opinion, of course. But if you don't like kickstarter, the answer is simple. Don't participate!
I still like what kick starter has to offer and will continue to participate in it until I think otherwise On Apr 3, 2012 11:24 AM, "William Saturno" <wsatu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I heard > first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little high (10% > I think ) most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something is better > than 100 percent of nothing.
> There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system. > The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner. I need to move > it forward and turn up the heat > On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson" <andersonj...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I >> know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stance? >> On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> *From: *Gizmodo <em...@gizmodo.com>* >>> To: *ctja...@yahoo.com* >>> Sent: *Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT* >>> Subject: *We're Done With Kickstarter
>>> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>I'm >>> done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I live >>> in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confidence >>> that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, like, >>> *anything*.
>>> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
>>> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a >>> world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their >>> ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those cold >>> summer days.
>>> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It >>> was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to get >>> your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and beg >>> your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your >>> friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a >>> prototype and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for your >>> product, you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell they >>> were talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many >>> succeeded—and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some really >>> smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into something >>> that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
>>> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you >>> for attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is * >>> such* an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking >>> bottle opener on just about anything. Please stop.
>>> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At >>> first all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed >>> like a genuine font of unfettered innovation—the hive mind coming up with >>> products that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And >>> maybe it was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad >>> renderings, and poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are poorly >>> made. And some are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without >>> delivering the promised rewards. This has happened to me.
>>> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the >>> first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a >>> fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a real >>> word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I >>> funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>? >>> Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the >>> product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? Nope. >>> It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the pool >>> until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
>>> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on >>> Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figures >>> out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for rampant >>> innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a >>> whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wannabe >>> signal destined for the landfill.
>>> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along >>> the way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into >>> something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharing >>> with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source you >>> can't use. >>> [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86c...>
I totally agree, Bill. I've backed 4 Kickstarter projects, no regrets so far (one maybe doesn't count because it was started by an old friend, so the end product sort of wasn't the point of backing that one). But yeah, the basic point is if you're not prepared to be sanguine in case the project founders turn out to be scammers (or maybe just dreamers without enough practical sense), then don't gamble on it. I mentioned backing 4 projects, but I should point out that my total investments don't amount to all that much money. Perhaps if I never receive the product for the two that I haven't yet received, my attitude might change. As for now, I'm glad Kickstarter exists.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, William Saturno <wsatu...@gmail.com> wrote: > As to gizmodos point, I see it as a buyer (investor) beware. When you > invest in something, sure, it is a gamble. You're basing it off what you > read about what you see in the posting and probably a short video clip. If > the investor is not sure, there is plenty of opportunity to contact the > kickstarter person directly. Or, here's an idea, if you feel sure, don't > invest!
> I see this as a rant from some sour grapes in an investment that did not > meet the expectations. Is kickstarter perfect? Nope. There are many things > that shouldn't be funded, and many of them are not. But I think the ideaof > something like kickstarter existing is better than not having the > opportunity. I have seen some very successful things come out of kick > starter (as well as some things that should have never been funded)
> No one s holding a gun to someone's head to invest in kick starter. Can > gizmoto have their own opinion, of course. But if you don't like > kickstarter, the answer is simple. Don't participate!
> I still like what kick starter has to offer and will continue to > participate in it until I think otherwise > On Apr 3, 2012 11:24 AM, "William Saturno" <wsatu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I know a few people who have used kick starter. The only complaint I >> heard first hand is the percentage that kickstarter take seems a little >> high (10% I think ) most people figure rhough that 90 percent of something >> is better than 100 percent of nothing.
>> There is no doubt that there some people abusing the kickstarter system. >> The kickstarter program is something is on the back burner. I need to move >> it forward and turn up the heat >> On Apr 3, 2012 11:15 AM, "jennifer anderson" <andersonj...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>>> Wow, tell us how you really feel. Bill, you do the most out of anyone I >>> know with kick starter and funding, how do you feel about Gizmodo's stance? >>> On Apr 3, 2012 11:12 AM, "ctja...@yahoo.com" <ctja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>>> -----Original message-----
>>>> *From: *Gizmodo <em...@gizmodo.com>* >>>> To: *ctja...@yahoo.com* >>>> Sent: *Thu, Mar 29, 2012 18:02:03 EDT* >>>> Subject: *We're Done With Kickstarter
>>>> [image: We're Done With Kickstarter]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>I'm >>>> done. Over it. Completely fed up. Kickstarter is ruining the world I live >>>> in. I used to love crazy gadgets, because I had some measure of confidence >>>> that, behind the idea, was some reasonably competent team or plan or, like, >>>> *anything*.
>>>> Not anymore. Kickstarter has me gun-shy about innovation.
>>>> I used to live in San Francisco, startup city USA. Everyone there had a >>>> world-changing idea, and about half of those people tried to make their >>>> ideas reality. It was wonderful and awesome. It kept you warm on those cold >>>> summer days.
>>>> That sense of inspiration is part of why I used to love Kickstarter. It >>>> was like everywhere could be San Francisco. Except one thing: In SF, to get >>>> your company out of your kitchen, you needed to save and scrounge and beg >>>> your parents for money and move into a tiny apartment and Tom Sawyer your >>>> friends into helping you and sweat for *months* and then make a >>>> prototype and then the really hard part: To get some seed money for your >>>> product, you'd have to convince people who actually knew what the hell they >>>> were talking about to fund your project. A lot of people failed. Many >>>> succeeded—and the ones who did had the support and wisdom of some really >>>> smart cats helping them refine their products and turn them into something >>>> that wouldn't just clot the earth with more useless crap.
>>>> But I do not need another iPhone dock or case. Yes, I am proud of you >>>> for attaching a rollerskate to a camera. Wow, that iPod Nano watch is * >>>> such* an original idea. Yes, I am aware that you can put a fucking >>>> bottle opener on just about anything. Please stop.
>>>> We look at hundreds of products every week. Sometimes thousands. At >>>> first all of us were pretty stoked about Kickstarter, because it seemed >>>> like a genuine font of unfettered innovation—the hive mind coming up with >>>> products that we truly needed but had never even thought of before. And >>>> maybe it was. But it's not anymore. It's a sea of bad videos, bad >>>> renderings, and poorly made prototypes. Some might be good. Many are poorly >>>> made. And some are downright fraudulent, taking peoples' money without >>>> delivering the promised rewards. This has happened to me.
>>>> The problem is actually the same thing that made it so exciting in the >>>> first place: the unfetteredness. Is that a word? No? Maybe I can post a >>>> fucking video on Kickstarter and raise ten grand and turn it into a real >>>> word. I mean, is that any less realistic than the Robocop Statue I >>>> funded<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>? >>>> Or the plug-in iPhone case<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86...>that, $40 later, I realized was probably only going to come out after the >>>> product around which it was designed had been fully *re*designed? >>>> Nope. It's all the same salty sea of hogwash. And we're stepping out of the >>>> pool until Kickstarter starts filtering out some of the crap.
>>>> Starting today, you will not see any items from Kickstarter posted on >>>> Gizmodo. Unless we are making fun of them. Or unless Kickstarter figures >>>> out a way to up the quality of the shit on its site. We are all for rampant >>>> innovation, but, at this point, Kickstarter is little more than spam: a >>>> whole lot of noise that sometimes results in a poorly made piece of wannabe >>>> signal destined for the landfill.
>>>> What sucks is that we'll probably miss one or two good products along >>>> the way. But I'm fine with that. Hopefully Kickstarter will evolve into >>>> something a little more trustworthy that we can feel comfortable sharing >>>> with you. Because in this game, a source you can't trust is a source you >>>> can't use. >>>> [image: Number of comments]<http://gizmodo.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=251e609e1dba3888b86c...>
