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Peter Griffin  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 10:23 am
From: "Peter Griffin" <zigzac...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:23:50 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 10:23 am
Subject: This thread reserved for Rants
Please channel all your outrage into this thread. It will be made
sticky, so you can find it easily.

It will also make it easy to skip for those of us who would rather not
read more repeats of what we've been hearing since Sunday.

Off-thread rants will be deleted from now on.

Thank you.


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मनीष  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 10:33 am
From: "मनीष" <manish_...@rediffmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:33:46 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 10:33 am
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Never expected such kind of foolishness in the name of censorship in
our country!

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newnimproved  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 10:59 am
From: "newnimproved" <newnimpro...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:59:21 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 10:59 am
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Just when I thought our clueless bureaucrats had reached the nadir of
their incompetence, they go ahead and block blogs.

For all the noise India and our IT czars make about our beloved nation
being a technology superpower, these jokers have shown the world what a
bunch of brain-dead cretins all of us are.

Yours in frustration,

Sunil

http://newnimproved.blogspot.com


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chaitubhai@gmail.com  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 11:40 am
From: "chaitub...@gmail.com" <chaitub...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:40:15 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 11:40 am
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Quality wise, we have some of the worst IT infrastructure in the world.
Our best ISPs probably count among the worst in the world. Just when we
thought things were getting better both from the govt side and the
ISPs, this happens. Both are to be blamed equally.

*First*, the government for thinking that just blocking a few 22
websites will have an effect on terrorism. Moreover, there's been no
clarification on this issue. Looks like they dont care about what
happens to our right to express.

Actually, I was wondering if the government is using the
terrorist/SIMI/communication funda as *an excuse* to clamp down on the
blogosphere, so much of which is filled with anti-UPA writing these
days. Because blocking a few sites doesnt make sense. Terrorists might
as well use email, chat, forums, orkut to communicate. They also use
telephones dont they? Are they going to ban telephones now?

Second, the ISPs for showing such incompetence. They havent bothered to
apply their brains in blocking the sites. They have a looooong way to
go before they get attain some maturity.

Pathetic! Can it get worse? I'm sure some Chinese reading about this
issue would be laughing their ass off on the floor, telling themselves,
"Hey! We're much better off!"


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Mihir  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 12:09 pm
From: "Mihir" <mihir.samb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:09:26 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Indian govt and majority of the market still dont get the concept of
web 2.0 or community websites! This reminds me of the arrest of Avnish
Bajaj because some guy sold some porno MMS on eBay/Bazee! knee jerk
reaction of the poor ignorant politicians if you ask me! :-(

sad reality
http://www.desihub.com/blogs/page/mihir/20060717#indian_market_govern...

-Mihir


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M'Raj  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 18 2006, 12:37 pm
From: "M'Raj" <dhiraj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:37:08 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
As part of a generation that has NOT experienced first-hand censorship
of the mass media (the last time this happened was during Emergency in
1975) this 'blogger block' has come as a deep shock to all of us.
Living in India prepares you for some of the toughest realities that
LIFE could throw your way but freedom to say what you want has been
largely a sacred cow, especially since the trauma of Emergency. I am
glad that the blogger community is not taking things lying down. The
kind of fevered debate and discussion this unfortunate ban (some say
oversight) has generated is heartening and proves many assumptions
(especially those of non-bloggers and certain high priests of the
mainstream media) wrong. The biggest and nastiest of which is that
BLOGISTAN (yes it's a subcontinent thing!) is a space for
self-indulgent thumb-twiddlers and wannabe opinion-makers.
It has also proved that Blogistan is a live, throbbing and real
community of people like any other, anywhere else in the world.
And the beauty of their existence is that they hang somewhere between
continents, time-zones and governments defying both the realities of
time and space. Someone blogs/replies/links to someone else's post
while that someone else is in the middle of a good night's slumber or
whatever else the night's meant for. And these connections spread from
one to another to another to yet another. Becoming a web of ideas,
emotions, feelings. All shared and exchanged in good faith.
This ban is stupid and ugly because it aims at banning something as
sacred as human connectivity.

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rimibchatterjee@gmail.com  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 1:39 pm
From: "rimibchatter...@gmail.com" <rimibchatter...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:39:28 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
In addition to posting on this forum, all of us should post extensively
on our own blogs regarding the ban, and on any other groups of which we

may be members. Just one group might not shift things, but a saturation
campaign certainly will. I have made a start on
http://livelikeaflame.blogspot.com/2006/07/we-must-have-silence.html
and
http://www.pkblogs.com/livelikeaflame/2006/07/we-must-have-silence.html
Since I'm a storyteller, it's in the form of a story.
let's also link to each other's posts. Since we all have readers who
read our stuff but aren't necessarily bloggers or into blogging, this
should spread the message as widely as possible.
You can use this thread to post notices about your posts.
Best regards
Rimi. B. Chatterjee (Erythrocyte)


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rakya  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 4:51 pm
From: "rakya" <tergu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:51:42 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
This is very disturbing.  It just doesn't make sense - especially for
India where claims of freedom of speech fly high. Now I can imagine how
people felt during the Emergency.

but there is hope, this is not 1975... we are a lot more mature now,
and I believe sooner than later, sense will prevail and this ban will
be lifted.

You can't keep a crappy blanket covering you for too long, and you
can't keep a good thing covered for too long.. ..


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/pd  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 6:38 pm
From: "/pd" <slash...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:38:10 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Bloggers are mad at the whole domain being taken down. Is that the
Issue of the ISP or the GOI ??

GOI must have had its intentions and idrectives issues as part of the
risk negation strategy. any idea if they were targeting only certain
blog's or not. I think its prudent to fact check what were the real
intentions before blowing up steam !!

Its not to say that the GOI have launched echelon onto the blogsphere
in India and neither can it be gtermed as an emergency days- as the
other platforms are still opertional..


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Neha Viswanathan  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 6:40 pm
From: "Neha Viswanathan" <nehav...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:40:25 +0100
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: This thread reserved for Rants

Of course, the government only meant to play nice nanny.

Some of us don't like nannies. Period.

On 7/18/06, /pd <slash...@gmail.com> wrote:

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/pd  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 8:11 pm
From: "/pd" <slash...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:11:13 -0000
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Neha, are you suggesting that this incident is purely censership of
bloggers ??

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Dilip D'Souza -- feedback  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 10:25 pm
From: Dilip D'Souza -- feedback <dilip...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:55:33 +0530
Local: Tues, Jul 18 2006 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: This thread reserved for Rants
Woke up to find this:

  > GOI must have had its intentions and idrectives issues as part of  
the
  > risk negation strategy.

I have no real idea what a "risk negation strategy" may be. I'm not  
interested. I think a fundamental rule of democracy is that every  
citizen should, as a rule, be skeptical of the "intentions and  
directives" of government.

cheers,
dilip.

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Jiyo Cricket  
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 More options Jul 18 2006, 10:41 pm