Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following link: http://ernet.in/directory.htm
for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as i know about Cert-In.
atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government agency has ask for the block, and why.
But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such orders.
Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > following link: > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as i > know about Cert-In.
> atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span class="q"><br> > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any chance?
cheers!
On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > orders.
> Best, > shivam
> Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > following link: > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > to a > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > during > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as > i > > know about Cert-In.
> > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > class="q"><br> > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: Mr. R.H.Sharma (M) 9868134544 E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as far as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any > chance?
> cheers!
> On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Angelo,
> > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > orders.
> > Best, > > shivam
> > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > > following link: > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > > to a > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > > during > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as > > i > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > class="q"><br> > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the<br> > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person<br> > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :) > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following link:<br><a href=" > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; here -- ( > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span> > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span class="q"><br> > <br>> </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. best, shivam
Shivam Vij wrote: > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > Mr. R.H.Sharma > (M) 9868134544 > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as far > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> Best, > shivam
> Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > thank you Shivam,
> > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any > > chance?
> > cheers!
> > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Angelo,
> > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > orders.
> > > Best, > > > shivam
> > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > > > following link: > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > > > to a > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > > > during > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as > > > i > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > class="q"><br> > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the<br> > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person<br> > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :) > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following link:<br><a href=" > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; here -- ( > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span> > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span class="q"><br> > > <br>> </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
Shivam Vij wrote: > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > best, > shivam
> Shivam Vij wrote: > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > (M) 9868134544 > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as far > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any > > > chance?
> > > cheers!
> > > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Angelo,
> > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > orders.
> > > > Best, > > > > shivam
> > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > > > > following link: > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the person > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > > > > to a > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > > > > during > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as much as > > > > i > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the<br> > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the person<br> > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :) > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following link:<br><a href=" > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; here -- ( > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span class="q"><br> > > > <br>> </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can try calling him up as well.
On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> Shivam Vij wrote: > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > best, > > shivam
> > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > far > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > related > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > any > > > > chance?
> > > > cheers!
> > > > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Angelo,
> > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > Madhur > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > or > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > (1:30 > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > government > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > know > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > other > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > orders.
> > > > > Best, > > > > > shivam
> > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > operations at the > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > person > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > the team > > > > > to a > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > govt's > > > > > during > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > much as > > > > > i > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > operations at the > > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: > Amardeep > > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the > person > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > off)<br><br>and > > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > to a > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > during > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. > thats as > > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails > that can be > > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > rgb(204, > > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > lunch time (1:30 > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > operations at the<br> > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > sent to them :) > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > link:<br><a href=" > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; > here -- ( > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about > Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to > them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> > <br><br><div><span > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt > 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > class="q"><br> > > > > <br>> > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
> awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar > is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some > can try calling him up as well.
> On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > best, > > > shivam
> > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it > > and > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > far > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > related > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > any > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > Madhur > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered > > blogspot or > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > (1:30 > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > government > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we > > also know > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > other > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > such > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > Best, > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > person > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)
> > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > the team > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > govt's > > > > > > during > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats > > as much as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br><br>for example like: > > Amardeep > > > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > > <a href="mailto: a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know > > the person > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)<br><br>and > > > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the > > team to a > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > govt's during > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. > > thats as > > > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails > > that can be > > > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > rgb(204, > > > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to > > say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they > > share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com"> mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had > > got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had > > *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said > > that by lunch time (1:30 > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href=" > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br>><br>> > > for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in > > </a> (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a > > href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in </a>) .. thats as much > > as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails > > that can be sent to them :) > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; > > here -- ( > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in > > ">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about > > Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to > > them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> > > <br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt > > 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > class="q"><br> > > > > > <br>> > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > > > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is > the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can > try calling him up as well.
> On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > best, > > > shivam
> > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > far > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > related > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > any > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > Madhur > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > > or > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > (1:30 > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > government > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > > know > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > other > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > Best, > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > person > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > the team > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > govt's > > > > > > during > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > > much as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br><br>for example like: > > Amardeep > > > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> (don't know the > > person > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)<br><br>and > > > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head the team > > to a > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's > > during > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. > > thats as > > > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails > > that can be > > > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > rgb(204, > > > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > > lunch time (1:30 > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > > sent to them :) > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; > > here -- ( > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about > > Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to > > them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> > > <br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt > > 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > class="q"><br> > > > > > <br>> > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote ></div><br><br>><br>> > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > > > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
> awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can try calling him up as well.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/17/06,
Neha Viswanathan wrote: > Shivam this is great work -is any of this bloggable? (Without the names of > course)
> On 7/17/06, Angelo Embuldeniya <angelo.embulden...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar > > is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some > > can try calling him up as well.
> > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > > best, > > > > shivam
> > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it > > > and > > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > > far > > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > > related > > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > > any > > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > > Madhur > > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered > > > blogspot or > > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > > (1:30 > > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > government > > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we > > > also know > > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > > other > > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > such > > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > operations at the > > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > > person > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > off)
> > > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > > the team > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > > govt's > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats > > > as much as > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to > > > say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they > > > share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com"> mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had > > > got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had > > > *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said > > > that by lunch time (1:30 > > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href=" > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br>><br>> > > > for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in > > > </a> (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a > > > href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in </a>) .. thats as much > > > as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails > > > that can be sent to them :) > > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > > > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > > > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > > > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > > > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > > > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; > > > here -- ( > > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in > > > ">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about > > > Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to > > > them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> > > > <br><br><div><span > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
> Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is > > the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can > > try calling him up as well.
> > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > > best, > > > > shivam
> > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > > far > > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > > related > > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > > any > > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > > Madhur > > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > > > or > > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > > (1:30 > > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > government > > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > > > know > > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > > other > > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > operations at the > > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > > person > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > > the team > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > > govt's > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > > > much as > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > > > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > > > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > > > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > > > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > > > lunch time (1:30 > > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > > > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > > > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > > > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > > > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > > > sent to them :) > > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > > > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > > > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > > > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > > > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > > > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot; > > > here -- ( > > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> > > > g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as much as i know about > > > Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some emails that can be sent to > > > them :)<br><br>&nbsp;</font> > > > <br><br><div><span > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > > > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt > > > 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > <br>>
Neha, the list archives are public, so I've taken the liberty to link. No point pussyfooting around it. We should get the word out to other forums with large readerships.
On 17-Jul-06, at 12:35 PM, Neha Viswanathan wrote:
> Shivam this is great work -is any of this bloggable? (Without the > names of course)
> On 7/17/06, Angelo Embuldeniya < angelo.embulden...@gmail.com> wrote: > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think > amar is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) > maybe some can try calling him up as well.
> On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr > Gulshan > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> Shivam Vij wrote: > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the > Department > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a > list of > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > best, > > shivam
> > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through > it and > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he > has as far > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are > they related > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same > management by any > > > > chance?
> > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One > Mr Madhur > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered > blogspot or > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch > time (1:30 > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and > which government > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, > we also know > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of > any other > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can > issue such > > > > > orders.
> > > > > Best, > > > > > shivam
> > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > operations at the > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know > the person > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on > and off)
> > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does > head the team > > > > > to a > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to > ME govt's > > > > > during > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( g...@eis.ernet.in) .. > thats as much as > > > > > i > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > operations at the > > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm "> > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br><br>for example like: > Amardeep > > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > <a href="mailto: a...@ernet.in"> a...@ernet.in</a> (don't > know the person > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > off)<br><br>and > > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > the team to a > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > govt's during > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> g...@eis.ernet.in</ > a>) .. thats as > > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some > emails that can be > > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px > solid rgb(204, > > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has > to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? > do they share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers! > <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > href="mailto: mallr...@gmail.com"> mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: > 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding- > left: 1ex;"> > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they > had got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that > CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be > blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and > which government<br>agency has ask for the block, and > why.<br><br>But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the > block, we also know<br>that ISPs are technically not bound to > follow the orders of any other > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can > issue such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo > Embuldeniya wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In > are listed under operations at the<br> > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href=" http://ernet.in/ > directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br>><br>> > for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto: > a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in </a> (don't know the person<br> > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on > and off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > director does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or > atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a > href="mailto: g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in </a>) .. thats > as much as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast > they're some emails that can be sent to them :) > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: > text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: > 1038<br>><br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are > listed under operations at the following link:<br><a > href=" > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> http://ernet.in/ > directory.htm</a>"><a href=" http://ernet.in/ > directory.htm"> http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></ > a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; > <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" > size="2"> > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto: > a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: > a...@ernet.in"> a...@ernet.in</a></a> (don't know the person > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off) > <br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's > called on as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure > crises&quot; here -- ( > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto: > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: > g...@eis.ernet.in"> g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're > some emails that can be sent to them :) > <br><br>&nbsp;</font> > <br><br><div><span > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt > 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > 1ex;"><div><div><span > class="q"><br> > > > > <br>> </span></div><div></div></ > div></blockquote></div><br><br>><br>> > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858--<br><br><br> > > > > ------=_Part_73303_12261059.1153113392452--
Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > Shivam, he's: Amardeep Chawla - 24361895 (apparently the person in > charge of the NOC's tech staff there)
> On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Amar who, Angelo?
> > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is > > > the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can > > > try calling him up as well.
> > > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > > > best, > > > > > shivam
> > > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > > > far > > > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > > > related > > > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > > > any > > > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > > > Madhur > > > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > > > > or > > > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > > > (1:30 > > > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > government > > > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > > > > know > > > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > > > other > > > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > operations at the > > > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > > > person > > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > > > the team > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > > > govt's > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > > > > much as > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > > > > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > > > > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > > > > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > > > > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > > > > lunch time (1:30 > > > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > > > > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > > > > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > > > > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > > > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > > > > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > > > > sent to them :) > > > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for > > > > example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; <font color="#1d2426" > > > > face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in"> > > > > a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a></a> > > > > (don't know the person personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned > > > > on and off)<br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > > as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure crises&quot;
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > Neha, the list archives are public, so I've taken the liberty to > link. No point pussyfooting around it. We should get the word out to > other forums with large readerships.
> On 17-Jul-06, at 12:35 PM, Neha Viswanathan wrote:
> > Shivam this is great work -is any of this bloggable? (Without the > > names of course)
> > On 7/17/06, Angelo Embuldeniya < angelo.embulden...@gmail.com> wrote: > > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think > > amar is the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) > > maybe some can try calling him up as well.
> > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr > > Gulshan > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the > > Department > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a > > list of > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > best, > > > shivam
> > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through > > it and > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he > > has as far > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are > > they related > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same > > management by any > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One > > Mr Madhur > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered > > blogspot or > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch > > time (1:30 > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and > > which government > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, > > we also know > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of > > any other > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can > > issue such > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > Best, > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know > > the person > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on > > and off)
> > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does > > head the team > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to > > ME govt's > > > > > > during > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( g...@eis.ernet.in) .. > > thats as much as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > operations at the > > > > > > following link:<br><a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm "> > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br><br>for example like: > > Amardeep > > > > > > - <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" size="2"> > > > > > > > <a href="mailto: a...@ernet.in"> a...@ernet.in</a> (don't > > know the person > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > off)<br><br>and > > > > > > Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > the team to a > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > govt's during > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- ( > > > > > > > <a href="mailto:g...@eis.ernet.in"> g...@eis.ernet.in</ > > a>) .. thats as > > > > > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're some > > emails that can be > > > > > > sent to them :)<br><br> </font> <br><br><div><span > > > > > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px > > solid rgb(204, > > > > > > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > > > > > class="q"><br> > > > > > > > </span></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has > > to say :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? > > do they share the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers! > > <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > href="mailto: mallr...@gmail.com"> mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: > > 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding- > > left: 1ex;"> > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they > > had got my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that > > CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be > > blocked. They said that by lunch time (1:30 > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and > > which government<br>agency has ask for the block, and > > why.<br><br>But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the > > block, we also know<br>that ISPs are technically not bound to > > follow the orders of any other > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can > > issue such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo > > Embuldeniya wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In > > are listed under operations at the<br> > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href=" http://ernet.in/ > > directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm </a><br>><br>> > > for example like: Amardeep - <a href="mailto: > > a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in </a> (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on > > and off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > director does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or > > atleast he's called on as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a > > href="mailto: g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in </a>) .. thats > > as much as i<br>> know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast > > they're some emails that can be sent to them :) > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: > > text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: > > 1038<br>><br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are > > listed under operations at the following link:<br><a > > href=" > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> http://ernet.in/ > > directory.htm</a>"><a href=" http://ernet.in/ > > directory.htm"> http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></ > > a><br><br>for example like: Amardeep -&nbsp; > > <font color="#1d2426" face="Verdana" > > size="2"> > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto: > > a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: > > a...@ernet.in"> a...@ernet.in</a></a> (don't know the person > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off) > > <br><br>and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive > > director does head the team to a certain extent.. or atleast he's > > called on as advisor to ME govt's during &quot;Infrastructure > > crises&quot; here -- ( > > > > > <br>> <a href="mailto:<a href="mailto: > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>"><a href="mailto: > > g...@eis.ernet.in"> g...@eis.ernet.in</a></a>) .. thats as > > much as i know about Cert-In.<br><br>atleast they're > > some emails that can be sent to them :) > > <br><br>&nbsp;</font> > > <br><br><div><span > > class="gmail_quote"></span> > > > > > <br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" > > style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt > > 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > > 1ex;"><div><div><span > > class="q"><br> > > > > > <br>>
It seems Dr Gulshan Rai is not only a DoT official but also doubles up as CERT-IN director. Have been calling up every 30 mins, it seems certain he is trying hard not to speak to me.
Shivam Vij wrote: > You mean NIC, right? NIC says it has nothing to dow ith this, it's all > between CERT-IN > and DoT. Called up Gulshan Rai again.
> Secy: "You are?"
> Me: "Shivam Vij"
> Secy: "From?"
> Me: "I'm a blogger."
> Secy: "Okay, Just a second please"
> [pause]
> Secy: "He's busy, Please call back in 30 mins."
> I have told her that i just HAVE to talk to him today.
> Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > Shivam, he's: Amardeep Chawla - 24361895 (apparently the person in > > charge of the NOC's tech staff there)
> > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Amar who, Angelo?
> > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is > > > > the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can > > > > try calling him up as well.
> > > > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > > > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > > > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > > > > best, > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > > > > far > > > > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > > > > related > > > > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > > > > any > > > > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > > > > Madhur > > > > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > > > > (1:30 > > > > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > > operations at the > > > > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > > > > the team > > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > > > > govt's > > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > > > > > much as > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > > > > > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > > > > > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > > > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > > > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > > > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > > > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > > > > > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > > > > > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > > > > > lunch time (1:30 > > > > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > > > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > > > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > > > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > > > > > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > > > > > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > > > > > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > > > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > > > > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > > > > > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > > > > > sent to them :) > > > > > > > > <br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > > > > > ------=_Part_72127_20740994.1153106225858<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > > > > > charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> X-Google-AttachSize: 1038<br>><br>> Some of > > > > > the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under operations at the following > > > > > link:<br><a href=" > > > > > > > > <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm"> > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a>"><a href=" > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a></a><br><br>for
> It seems Dr Gulshan Rai is not only a DoT official but also doubles up > as CERT-IN director. Have been calling up every 30 mins, it seems > certain he is trying hard not to speak to me.
> Shivam Vij wrote: > > You mean NIC, right? NIC says it has nothing to dow ith this, it's all > > between CERT-IN > > and DoT. Called up Gulshan Rai again.
> > Secy: "You are?"
> > Me: "Shivam Vij"
> > Secy: "From?"
> > Me: "I'm a blogger."
> > Secy: "Okay, Just a second please"
> > [pause]
> > Secy: "He's busy, Please call back in 30 mins."
> > I have told her that i just HAVE to talk to him today.
> > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > Shivam, he's: Amardeep Chawla - 24361895 (apparently the person in > > > charge of the NOC's tech staff there)
> > > On 7/17/06, Shivam Vij <mallr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Amar who, Angelo?
> > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > awesome! hope you're able to get thru to him fine Shivam :) i think amar is > > > > > the other person who would know what exactly is going on :) maybe some can > > > > > try calling him up as well.
> > > > > > Angelo, you are right. After a few more phone calls I figure Dr Gulshan > > > > > > Rai is the one to be spoken to. I called him up and his Secy says he's > > > > > > busy in a meeting, so I'll call again in 30 mins.
> > > > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > > > I called up a senior Spectranet official who said that the Department > > > > > > > of Telecommunications (not the ministry) had on Friday sent a list of > > > > > > > sites to be blocked. This is the same list, it seems, that MTNL's > > > > > > > Sharma was telling me about. This list is not public. It deserves to > > > > > > > be. I'm trying to get through to someone at NIC. > > > > > > > best, > > > > > > > shivam
> > > > > > > Shivam Vij wrote: > > > > > > > > I called up this MTNL engineer who's in-charge of these things: > > > > > > > > Mr. R.H.Sharma > > > > > > > > (M) 9868134544 > > > > > > > > E-mail : sd...@bol.net.in > > > > > > > > He said he has a long 22-page of list of sites, sent to him by the > > > > > > > > National Informatics Centre, and needs two hours to go through it and > > > > > > > > find out if it contains any blogspot or typepad site. But he has as > > > > > > far > > > > > > > > as he knows MTNL has not blocked blogspot per se.
> > > > > > > > Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
> > > > > > > > I'm now calling up someone at NIC. Let's see if I get through.
> > > > > > > > > looking forward to what Cert-In has to say :) how exactly are they > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > to the national IX in india? do they share the same management by > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > chance?
> > > > > > > > > > I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got my mail. One Mr > > > > > > Madhur > > > > > > > > > > (forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* ordered blogspot > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by lunch time > > > > > > (1:30 > > > > > > > > > > IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > agency has ask for the block, and why.
> > > > > > > > > > But now that we know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > that ISPs are technically not bound to follow the orders of any > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue such > > > > > > > > > > orders.
> > > > > > > > > > Angelo Embuldeniya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > > > operations at the > > > > > > > > > > > following link: > > > > > > > > > > > http://ernet.in/directory.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > for example like: Amardeep - a...@ernet.in (don't know the > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and off)
> > > > > > > > > > > and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director does head > > > > > > the team > > > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > > > certain extent.. or atleast he's called on as advisor to ME > > > > > > govt's > > > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > > "Infrastructure crises" here -- (g...@eis.ernet.in) .. thats as > > > > > > much as > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > know about Cert-In.
> > > > > > > > > > > atleast they're some emails that can be sent to them :)
> > > > > > > > > thank you Shivam,<br><br>looking forward to what Cert-In has to say > > > > > > :) how exactly are they related to the national IX in india? do they share > > > > > > the same management by any chance?<br><br>cheers!<br><br><div><span > > > > > > class="gmail_quote"> > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Shivam Vij</b> <<a > > > > > > href="mailto:mallr...@gmail.com">mallr...@gmail.com</a>> > > > > > > wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid > > > > > > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > > > > > > > > <br>Hi Angelo,<br><br>I called up CERT-IN and they said they had got > > > > > > my mail. One Mr Madhur<br>(forgot his surname) said that CERT-IN had *not* > > > > > > ordered blogspot or<br>any particular blog to be blocked. They said that by > > > > > > lunch time (1:30 > > > > > > > > > <br>IST) they will be in a position to tell me whether and which > > > > > > government<br>agency has ask for the block, and why.<br><br>But now that we > > > > > > know CERT-IN has not asked for the block, we also know<br>that ISPs are > > > > > > technically not bound to follow the orders of any other > > > > > > > > > <br>govt agency, as under the IT Act 2003 only CERT-IN can issue > > > > > > such<br>orders.<br><br>Best,<br>shivam<br><br>Angelo Embuldeniya > > > > > > wrote:<br>> Some of the folks who work at Cert-In are listed under > > > > > > operations at the<br> > > > > > > > > > > following link:<br>> <a href="http://ernet.in/directory.htm > > > > > > ">http://ernet.in/directory.htm</a><br>><br>> for example like: > > > > > > Amardeep - <a href="mailto:a...@ernet.in">a...@ernet.in</a> > > > > > > (don't know the person<br> > > > > > > > > > > personally tho.. have heard his name been mentioned on and > > > > > > off)<br>><br>> and Dr. Gulshan Rai, who's their executive director > > > > > > does head the team to a<br>> certain extent.. or atleast he's called on > > > > > > as advisor to ME govt's during > > > > > > > > > <br>> "Infrastructure crises" here -- (<a href="mailto: > > > > > > g...@eis.ernet.in">g...@eis.ernet.in</a>) .. thats as much as i<br>> > > > > > > know about Cert-In.<br>><br>> atleast they're some emails that can be > > > > > > sent to them :)
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