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Raj Nair  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:17 am
From: "Raj Nair" <peri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:17:43 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:17 am
Subject: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?
Dr Gulshan Rai, director of the Computer Emergency Response Team, the
apex organisation under the IT Ministry responsible for the nation's
cyber-security, told HT: "There's no attempt to block www.blogspot.com
from our side. The order issued by the DoT has four blogs hosted on
Blogspot.com. The order didn't ask the whole site to be banned."

Then why isn't any Blogspot site opening on most computers? The answer
lies in the way our internet service providers -- like Tata, Airtel,
Sify and Reliance -- have implemented the order.

"Indian ISPs don't have the technology to block individual name servers
-- say a particular blog hosted on Blogspot. So they had no choice but
to block the root servers of major blogging networks -- blogspot,
geocities and typepad," said a senior official in the IT Ministry. A
senior official from an ISP confirmed this.

from: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1747559,0008.htm

If you know malayalam, see the discussions here:
http://boologaclub.blogspot.com/2006/07/blog-post_115328930857476816....


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Angelo Embuldeniya  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:21 am
From: "Angelo Embuldeniya" <angelo.embulden...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:21:00 +0300
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

they forget to realize that they DO have the technology to block out listed
blogs. All the ISP's need is to use a filter!

On 7/19/06, Raj Nair <peri...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Raj Nair  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:24 am
From: "Raj Nair" <peri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:24:21 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:24 am
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?
GoI/DoT/CERT-In could have write to Blogspot to remove those blogs
which are threat to nation's security. Blogspot't wouldn't have
declined any such requests from a democratic country like India.

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Angelo Embuldeniya  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:25 am
From: "Angelo Embuldeniya" <angelo.embulden...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:25:31 +0300
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:25 am
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

ditto!

On 7/19/06, Raj Nair <peri...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Dilip D'Souza -- feedback  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:29 am
From: Dilip D'Souza -- feedback <dilip...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:59:41 +0530
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:29 am
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

> GoI/DoT/CERT-In could have write to Blogspot to remove those blogs
> which are threat to nation's security. Blogspot't wouldn't have
> declined any such requests from a democratic country like India.

What does this mean? I don't get it. You think the Govt should have  
written to Blogspot to remove some apparently offending blogs, and  
that Blogspot should have and would have followed suit? Because India  
is a democracy? This makes no sense to me.

I would not support such a request to Blogspot, and if one went  
through I would hope blogspot would say "Not on your life!" Democracy  
or no democracy.

yours,
dilip.


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Raj Nair  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:32 am
From: "Raj Nair" <peri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:32:57 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:32 am
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?
If GoI can ask google to remove parliment and premises from google
earth, they can definitely ask blogspot to remove a blog posing threat
to Nation. Not learned any lessons from china yet?

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Ashish Patil  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:45 am
From: "Ashish Patil" <aad...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:53 +0530
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:45 am
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

On 7/19/06, Raj Nair <peri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> GoI/DoT/CERT-In could have write to Blogspot to remove those blogs which
> are threat to nation's security.

Exactly what it should have been done, either by GoI/DoT/CERT-In or by ISPs

Blogspot't wouldn't have declined any such requests from a democratic

> country like India.

That is their question, failing to above request, ISPs could at least have
some reason to block whole domain, on the other hand blogspot would have
gone in legal battle.

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http://aadipa.be


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/pd  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 8:48 am
From: "/pd" <slash...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:48:26 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 8:48 am
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?
Dilip, not what I think is being idnciated that  GoI/DoT/CERT-In
SHOULD have contacted Google and requested them to "freeze" access to
those sites hosted on blogger platform. The US gov has done this for
numerious sites based on felonies and criminal activities !!

Any yes, google will take it down because its in voliation of the TOS..
read the caevaerts in the TOS !!


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Madhu Menon  
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(2 users)  More options Jul 19 2006, 9:02 am
From: Madhu Menon <c...@shiokfood.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:32:13 +0530
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 9:02 am
Subject: Re: [Bloggers Collective] Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

/pd wrote:
> Any yes, google will take it down because its in voliation of the TOS..
> read the caevaerts in the TOS !!

Of course, indulging in some actual criminal activity would be helpful.
Looking at some of the blocked sites, one is left scratching one's chin
about what is so illegal about stuff like this:

--
Tony Snow just flat b!tch slapped the wicked witch of the East in todays
press conference. Transcript coming.

Transcript...it's funny and worth a read.
--

from: http://www.pkblogs.com/exposingtheleft/2006/07/presser-fireworks.html

OR this:

--
So, yes.. My life is extremely boring! Nothing too exciting to post today.
The 2nd 1/2 of my spring break was a lot of fun.. I went and stayed w/
Stopher and his family in Houston. Went to Galveston to the beach and
rode the ferry. Went to the rodeo and saw Pat Green. Then stood around
at a family gathering that his mom's side of the family had. It was like
a senior citizen convention. Break out the dominoes and pour some beer!
Anyway, good times! I went back to Arlington on Sunday to eat dinner w/
Melbany.. IHOP.. yummy! :) Made it to class this week.. 2 days in a row.
Go Kim! Anyway.. Nothing exciting happening now. I just got done kicking
Stopher's ass at Solitaire Showdown. But when do I not? :) j/k. I've got
a huge test to study for so I'm out!
Peace, Love, and Salsa.
--

http://www.pkblogs.com/princesskimberly/2004_03_01_princesskimberly_a...

Actually, I can see some merit in blocking the second one. It kills
people through boredom. ;)

--
<<<   *   >>>
Madhu Menon
Shiok Far-eastern Cuisine
Indiranagar, Bangalore
Visit us @ http://www.shiokfood.com
Phone: (080) 4116 1800


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 More options Jul 19 2006, 10:57 am
From: "prope//er" <klora...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:57:44 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 10:57 am
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

Raj Nair wrote:
> Blogspot't wouldn't have declined any such requests from a democratic country like > India.

Oh wow, I learn something new every day. Pray tell, why in the world
would blogspot entertain a request like that? Also, wouldn't it be
insanely silly if a nation of one billion people asks a piddly little
company somewhere in the US to block a,b,c,d, and e.blogspot.com
because it didn't like what was written?

self-respect... please!


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Raj Nair  
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 More options Jul 19 2006, 12:17 pm
From: "Raj Nair" <peri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:17:31 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?
A nation with 1.3 billion population asked yahoo to get them all emails
of their citizen named Shi Tao, google for the rest of the story.

May be China was running out of self-respect then ;)

And please read ToS of blogspot, you don't need one billion people to
bring a blog down, an email notifying ToS violation is quite enough. If
CERT noticed any such sites, that should have been the first step. If
it fails to work out, they have every right to block/order a block of
content provider ie. blogspot.com


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 More options Jul 19 2006, 12:08 pm
From: "Venkat" <coolv...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:08:17 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 19 2006 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: Here is the catch - How it got blocked actually?

> GoI/DoT/CERT-In could have write to Blogspot to remove those blogs
> which are threat to nation's security. Blogspot't wouldn't have
> declined any such requests from a democratic country like India.

I think the important question here is about who decides what
constitutes a threat to national security. And, how does the person
whose website is being blocked defend himself. There is important
issues of free speech here. Suppose I criticize Manmohan Singh
tomorrow, would my critique constitute a threat to national security?
Who watches the watchers?

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